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keenas
Joined: Tue Nov 24, 2009 10:30 pm Posts: 17 Location: Blackwood, SA
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Hi guys,
this is my 1st post on this site i have been reading alot of other post and the info that is coming out of this forum is sweet!
Anyways got a little prob...
I have a 2inch suspension lift (1 leaf on each removed for a better ride/flex)... Rockcrawler in the rear and efs springs in the front, 2 inch extended shackles, hilux shocks in the rear and rancho's in the front. I have installed all of this myself and now i am left with a leaning zook. I have measured from the bottom of the rim to the top of the wheel arch and my heights are clockwise from drivers front- 690mm, 685mm, 720mm, 735mm. It means that the 30inch tyres are scrubbing at lock.
I have taken it to pedars they said it might have a bent chassie, this has been throw out by cross country 4x4, they said one of my leafs must have a different camber.
Is there anything else that it could be?? It is driving me insane!!!
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royce
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Joined: Sun Jun 11, 2006 11:30 pm Posts: 17216 Location: Pluto
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Posted: Sat Dec 12, 2009 11:41 pm |
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Drivers front 690mm
Drivers rear 685
Passenger rear 720
Passenger front 735
Correct?
how old are the springs? put the leaf back in the right rear and check its not bent
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atari4x4
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Joined: Mon Dec 11, 2006 10:30 pm Posts: 34843 Location: East Radelayed
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Posted: Sat Dec 12, 2009 11:42 pm |
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it sounds like the standard sierra lean, there has been a few threads about fixing it... some have put an extra leaf in the left rear i think?
welcome to auszookers & blackwood was my old stomping ground!!
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atari4x4
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Joined: Mon Dec 11, 2006 10:30 pm Posts: 34843 Location: East Radelayed
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Posted: Sat Dec 12, 2009 11:49 pm |
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or try swapping the springs over left to right?
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keenas
Joined: Tue Nov 24, 2009 10:30 pm Posts: 17 Location: Blackwood, SA
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Posted: Sat Dec 12, 2009 11:54 pm |
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Correct with the measurement, springs are basically brand new, been leaning since i bough them new!
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keenas
Joined: Tue Nov 24, 2009 10:30 pm Posts: 17 Location: Blackwood, SA
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Posted: Sat Dec 12, 2009 11:59 pm |
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might have to go to the shed and try what ya said atari! Cheers..
I hate suspension!! wouldn't putting a extra leaf in one corner make for a interesting ride... I had considered it!
The other thing is when i jack from the rear driver leaf it doesn't lift the front up when i get the back to 720mm... the front still stays at 690ish if that make sense.
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royce
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Joined: Sun Jun 11, 2006 11:30 pm Posts: 17216 Location: Pluto
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Posted: Sun Dec 13, 2009 12:01 am |
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although it willl be a lot of work I would pull both rear springs and see if the free camber (amount of arch) is the same or lower on the drivers side
FWIW the only sierra lean I have ever had is from a buggered bodylift block twisting the front clip, but I have only used Quality Australian made springs
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keenas
Joined: Tue Nov 24, 2009 10:30 pm Posts: 17 Location: Blackwood, SA
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Posted: Sun Dec 13, 2009 12:07 am |
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yeah the lot of work thing has made it a ongoing thing. Might have to bite the bullet, cheers! Il let ya no the outcome, late tonight hopefully....
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oozuk
Joined: Sun Aug 16, 2009 11:30 pm Posts: 1452 Location: bethania QLD
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atari4x4 wrote: or try swapping the springs over left to right?
X 2 on that one
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want33s
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Joined: Fri Nov 16, 2007 10:30 pm Posts: 8135 Location: Sunshine Coast Qld
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Posted: Sun Dec 13, 2009 1:20 am |
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I think Royce is onto it... Put the misssing leaf back in the RH rear.
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Zook_Fan
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royce what Quality Australian made springs have you used?
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v.w.dave
Joined: Sun Sep 27, 2009 11:30 pm Posts: 1437 Location: The Hills Sydney
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Posted: Sun Dec 13, 2009 4:34 am |
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Mine had this lean when I first got it. Mine was caused by my shackles being bent on one side of my zook. I took them out and straightened them on the press at work. With them now staight I found that my left front, front spring perch was also slightly bent. Using the stretcher at work and a little heat I bent it back into place.
After all that it was finaly sitting with the front end down about 15mm. Then I took it out for a big day and bent the absolute shit out of my left front spring so that is when I put my old factory rears up front (RUF) and I have fallen in love with it all over again.
When I did the RUF I put a new set of shocks in and its like a hole nother car....
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hutch
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Posted: Sun Dec 13, 2009 2:55 pm |
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45mm difference on the front seems to be a massive amount.
You may be getting a false reading by measuring to the top of the wheel arch clip as well.
They only true way to tell unfortunately is to remove both front springs and flip them upside down and place beside one another on the concrete.
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keenas
Joined: Tue Nov 24, 2009 10:30 pm Posts: 17 Location: Blackwood, SA
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Posted: Sun Dec 13, 2009 6:45 pm |
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Yeah valid point hutch.
I just removed the two rears and compared them on the concrete they have the same arch.... Fu*k!!!
I then put the leaf i took out back in the drivers front and hey presto.... All level.. my measurements are 720 in the front and 705 in the rear. I spose that means that it could be the front leafs that have the different arch not the rear as cross country had said! Looks like i will be taking the fronts out to check, but maybe tomorrow night. Did i mention i hate suspension!
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Chop
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Posted: Sun Dec 13, 2009 9:28 pm |
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I'm pretty sure efs dont have different camber from side to side. i bought mine through cross country aswell. when i asked them if they did have a left and right side they had not a clue, but when they arrived a simple check side by side showed they were the same next to each other.
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just_cruizin
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Posted: Mon Dec 14, 2009 2:15 am |
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The old put them side by side trick only tells half the story though. If the spring rates are different between the springs, and this happens more often then not, the only way you'll see the difference is when weight is applied. Try standing on them, if you're a fat bugger like myself, and get someone to measure them.
Don't forget the drivers side is heavier then the passenger side.
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keenas
Joined: Tue Nov 24, 2009 10:30 pm Posts: 17 Location: Blackwood, SA
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Posted: Mon Dec 14, 2009 12:54 pm |
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Yeah i did that in the rears but i didn't have anyone to measure them. I put a pencil mark on the floor and they scratched a expanded line. Also i asked if they had catered for extra weight on the drivers side and both the efs and the rockcrawlers dont in sierra's (weired)! But cheers for the heads up!
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