[nato78]

I've been offered a very low km g13b gti twin cam motor at a good price, only missing dizzy and exhaust manifold.

I've read all the pros and cons regarding the use of these motors in a Sierra, but as far as I'm concerned anything will be better than what's in there now.

What I want to know is are there any tricks or hidden problems with installing these motors into a Sierra, especially with the efi and electrics?

[jonno_racing]

what mk is it mate?

[shakes]

nothing too specific...

http://www.auszookers.com/index.php?nam ... hlight=gti

[nato78]

jonno_racing wrote:

what mk is it mate?

Out of a 97 model swift, only has 51,000 on the clock

[simobimo]

Make sure you grab the engine bay and underdash looms for it and the wiring will be a piece of piss.

You're welcome to look at mine if you get stuck.

You'll need the dizzy and exhaust manifold (as a base), so you best get them sorted.

Simo

[jonno_racing]

its mk2/3 then.. no angle drive for you..

i am currently doing a mk3 conversion for a forum member. when are u planning on installing it? i can come lend a hand mate.

[nato78]

If I buy it, I'll get it this wk. Would like to have it in by the wheeny creek trip

[angus350]

i have done a fair bit of reading about it because i am going to be doing it to mine soon but why does the angle drive kit not fit for mk2/3?

cheers

[stockman]

nato78 wrote:

If I buy it, I'll get it this wk. Would like to have it in by the wheeny creek trip

You coming in the Sierra or Jimny?

[nato78]

stockman wrote:

nato78 wrote:

If I buy it, I'll get it this wk. Would like to have it in by the wheeny creek trip

You coming in the Sierra or Jimny?

Sierra, don't own a jimny

[stockman]

nato78 wrote:

stockman wrote:

nato78 wrote:

If I buy it, I'll get it this wk. Would like to have it in by the wheeny creek trip

You coming in the Sierra or Jimny?

Sierra, don't own a jimny

For some reason I thought you had one

[cbzook]

the mk 2/3 dizzy has a crank angle sensor mk 1 does not

[nato78]

Don't you swap the dizzy out for a Mazda 323 one anyway?

Never mind, misread that, only the cap and rotor

[jonno_racing]

no
u use the cap and a modified rottor button.. i fitted one yesterday... not exactly straight forward and dosent exactly fit.

i can come fit, wire etc for you..

i am doing a mk3 atm started lunch time yesterday..
all i have to do is wiring, fit starter, fuel tank back in (swimmer pump) and figure out intake pipeing..
so should be started tomorrow night. however i have worked hard and fast on this one.. i also made a pretty stainless top radiator hose today. etc..

[nato78]

Might give you a buzz tomorrow Phil, once i sort out what I'm gunna do

[jonno_racing]

yeah sure, i am free next week, i think... i can come down and fit/wire for cash.

[SierraDan]

you would!

[jonno_racing]

SierraDan wrote:

you would!

its how i am making my living atm.. conversions and making shit.

[nato78]

jonno_racing wrote:

yeah sure, i am free next week, i think... i can come down and fit/wire for cash.

If I get the motor, I'll definately take you up on that offer

[jonno_racing]

nato78 wrote:

jonno_racing wrote:

yeah sure, i am free next week, i think... i can come down and fit/wire for cash.

If I get the motor, I'll definately take you up on that offer

this was my first effort at top cooling hose today 2... i will tig them in future but u get the idea

[masterA]

angus350 wrote:

i have done a fair bit of reading about it because i am going to be doing it to mine soon but why does the angle drive kit not fit for mk2/3?

cheers

According to Derek from SuziSport....you CAN use the angle drive kit on the MK2/3 engines HOWEVER....you will need to buy a Vitara EFI dizzy/cap/roto and fit that
Apparently he has done it quite a few times

I will let you know in 2-3 weeks how it goes coz i brought the angle drive and a 92' Vitara EFI dizzy/cap/rotor (just need to get my engine back from the machine shop)

[Fatzook]

masterA wrote:

angus350 wrote:

i have done a fair bit of reading about it because i am going to be doing it to mine soon but why does the angle drive kit not fit for mk2/3?

cheers

According to Derek from SuziSport....you CAN use the angle drive kit on the MK2/3 engines HOWEVER....you will need to buy a Vitara EFI dizzy/cap/roto and fit that
Apparently he has done it quite a few times

I will let you know in 2-3 weeks how it goes coz i brought the angle drive and a 92' Vitara EFI dizzy/cap/rotor (just need to get my engine back from the machine shop)

Well that flies in the face of everything Phil preaches.

I hope Dereck is right on this one. He definately knows some shit, but sometimes I wonder if he just makes it up

[jimbo_jones]

masterA wrote:

angus350 wrote:

i have done a fair bit of reading about it because i am going to be doing it to mine soon but why does the angle drive kit not fit for mk2/3?

cheers

According to Derek from SuziSport....you CAN use the angle drive kit on the MK2/3 engines HOWEVER....you will need to buy a Vitara EFI dizzy/cap/roto and fit that
Apparently he has done it quite a few times

I will let you know in 2-3 weeks how it goes coz i brought the angle drive and a 92' Vitara EFI dizzy/cap/rotor (just need to get my engine back from the machine shop)

interesting never heard this before let us know how it go's

[masterA]

Well...if he's telling me porkies he'll be getting his Vitara dizzy back and refunding me my money

[jonno_racing]

jimbo_jones wrote:

masterA wrote:

angus350 wrote:

i have done a fair bit of reading about it because i am going to be doing it to mine soon but why does the angle drive kit not fit for mk2/3?

cheers

According to Derek from SuziSport....you CAN use the angle drive kit on the MK2/3 engines HOWEVER....you will need to buy a Vitara EFI dizzy/cap/roto and fit that
Apparently he has done it quite a few times

I will let you know in 2-3 weeks how it goes coz i brought the angle drive and a 92' Vitara EFI dizzy/cap/rotor (just need to get my engine back from the machine shop)

interesting never heard this before let us know how it go's

me 2 cbzook and I were discussing this the other day. very interested however I think the ign curve is different. also finding a g16b dizzy may not be that Cheep.

[Fatzook]

If it des wrk, I have 2 G16B dizzy's I don't need. Both need new caps though...

[JrZook]

jonno_racing wrote:

jimbo_jones wrote:

masterA wrote:

angus350 wrote:

i have done a fair bit of reading about it because i am going to be doing it to mine soon but why does the angle drive kit not fit for mk2/3?

cheers

According to Derek from SuziSport....you CAN use the angle drive kit on the MK2/3 engines HOWEVER....you will need to buy a Vitara EFI dizzy/cap/roto and fit that
Apparently he has done it quite a few times

I will let you know in 2-3 weeks how it goes coz i brought the angle drive and a 92' Vitara EFI dizzy/cap/rotor (just need to get my engine back from the machine shop)

interesting never heard this before let us know how it go's

me 2 cbzook and I were discussing this the other day. very interested however I think the ign curve is different. also finding a g16b dizzy may not be that Cheep.

G16b dizzy's don't have an advance plate. All they have is a fixed timing pick-up. Mk2/3 must use the ECU to control the timing curve.

[jonno_racing]

JrZook wrote:

jonno_racing wrote:

jimbo_jones wrote:

masterA wrote:

angus350 wrote:

i have done a fair bit of reading about it because i am going to be doing it to mine soon but why does the angle drive kit not fit for mk2/3?

cheers

According to Derek from SuziSport....you CAN use the angle drive kit on the MK2/3 engines HOWEVER....you will need to buy a Vitara EFI dizzy/cap/roto and fit that
Apparently he has done it quite a few times

I will let you know in 2-3 weeks how it goes coz i brought the angle drive and a 92' Vitara EFI dizzy/cap/rotor (just need to get my engine back from the machine shop)

interesting never heard this before let us know how it go's

me 2 cbzook and I were discussing this the other day. very interested however I think the ign curve is different. also finding a g16b dizzy may not be that Cheep.

G16b dizzy's don't have an advance plate. All they have is a fixed timing pick-up. Mk2/3 must use the ECU to control the timing curve.

so even if it did run it wouldn't be right

[JrZook]

jonno_racing wrote:

JrZook wrote:

jonno_racing wrote:

jimbo_jones wrote:

masterA wrote:

angus350 wrote:

i have done a fair bit of reading about it because i am going to be doing it to mine soon but why does the angle drive kit not fit for mk2/3?

cheers

According to Derek from SuziSport....you CAN use the angle drive kit on the MK2/3 engines HOWEVER....you will need to buy a Vitara EFI dizzy/cap/roto and fit that
Apparently he has done it quite a few times

I will let you know in 2-3 weeks how it goes coz i brought the angle drive and a 92' Vitara EFI dizzy/cap/rotor (just need to get my engine back from the machine shop)

interesting never heard this before let us know how it go's

me 2 cbzook and I were discussing this the other day. very interested however I think the ign curve is different. also finding a g16b dizzy may not be that Cheep.

G16b dizzy's don't have an advance plate. All they have is a fixed timing pick-up. Mk2/3 must use the ECU to control the timing curve.

so even if it did run it wouldn't be right

Huh? MK2/3 use the ECU to control timing, they have a fixed pickup in the dizzy exactly like the G16B.

The early MK1 uses the dizzy to control the ignition timing and the ECU is fuel only.

Yea?

[jonno_racing]

sorry read that wrong. yeah spot on.
I might try get a g16b dizzy fab up an adapter and give it a run on the one I am doing atm. Pete could I loan/buy one of those dizzys?