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Scales
az supporter
Joined: Mon May 30, 2011 9:28 am Posts: 2233 Location: Townsville
Vehicle: 03 Jim M13A no-vvt, Vinyl Spec
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Posted: Thu Aug 09, 2012 4:46 pm |
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Hey, as the title suggests... whats the dealy-o with the homepage these days? it hasnt changed in months and months and it kinda seems redundant almost. And almost all my old links simply point to that homepage these days..... is there going to be a future for it besides the "shop"
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buzbox
Joined: Thu Jul 16, 2009 11:30 pm Posts: 3600 Location: Wollongong NSW
Vehicle: LWB Sierra & XL7
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Posted: Thu Aug 09, 2012 5:17 pm |
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AZ Rig of the month didn't last long..
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atari4x4
az supporter
Joined: Mon Dec 11, 2006 10:30 pm Posts: 34843 Location: East Radelayed
Vehicle: SV420+SV620 Vitara's
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Posted: Thu Aug 09, 2012 5:24 pm |
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I've also found that a heap of links take me back to the home page... I think it's the only time I ever actually visit the home page. I have bookmark to take me straight to "view new posts"
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steve
I live here!
Joined: Sun Jun 11, 2006 11:30 pm Posts: 7681 Location: Brisbane
Vehicle: 75 Cruiser
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Posted: Thu Aug 09, 2012 6:09 pm |
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abclarke
Joined: Mon Feb 14, 2011 8:19 am Posts: 1966 Location: Couridjah
Vehicle: 1985 Holden Drover
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Posted: Thu Aug 09, 2012 6:13 pm |
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atari4x4 wrote: I've also found that a heap of links take me back to the home page... I think it's the only time I ever actually visit the home page. I have bookmark to take me straight to "view new posts" Ive found to fix the problem with the dodgy links to the homepage, copy/paste the thread number in the URL open a new URL using another new thread. Seems to work for me anyways
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royce
omnipotent being
Joined: Sun Jun 11, 2006 11:30 pm Posts: 17216 Location: Pluto
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Posted: Sat Aug 11, 2012 9:57 am |
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? Scales wrote: Hey, as the title suggests... whats the dealy-o with the homepage these days? it hasnt changed in months and months and it kinda seems redundant almost. And almost all my old links simply point to that homepage these days..... is there going to be a future for it besides the "shop" What would you like it to do? its like all the other stuff, only going to show what people want to put in, if nobody gives a shit then nothing will happen
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Scales
az supporter
Joined: Mon May 30, 2011 9:28 am Posts: 2233 Location: Townsville
Vehicle: 03 Jim M13A no-vvt, Vinyl Spec
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Posted: Sat Aug 11, 2012 1:55 pm |
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I have no idea what i would like it to do mate, i didnt put it up in the first place! it just seemed to appear without much announcement except the forum was going to be down for a while. Not having a dig, love the work put into this site, progress is good!
Maybe have a wiki link in there so it has an area that looks more like wikipedia etc, and put all the "i made it/how to" articles in there, in proper categorys with cross-referencing articles. even if they are just copy pasted from the forum. Then submitting articles is much easier, like in any other wiki. obviously they will have to be vetted before being put up, but someone would surely volunteer for it around here.
Make the forum link into a big button on the page, or make it a bit bigger, stand out more. to a visitor who has never been here before, its not immediatley obvious thats where all the information is.
Also, theres no real "welcome" on the home page, it sort of just launches into the rig of the month.. maybe a short speal about whats available and what we're about then get the news/announcements after that.
On the topic of news, maybe someone should be appointed to put a fresh topic on the homepage each week at the very least, or a summary of whats what/who's who in the community.
Was just commenting on the fact it looked like nothing was happening with it, and was hindering the links on the forum in some aspects. It would be great if the webpage was just as useful and interesting/fun to use as the forum behind it. may stop the noob questions asked a thousand times too... who knows?
I know if i search for something on google zook related, if it shows a link from here, it sends me to the homepage instead of the appropriate thread, would be good if that immediate page that a visitor sees is a helpful one, and not one you just click past.
These are all just ideas off the top of my head, agree or dont i dont really care, i just want to help. Ive offered my services before in regards to wiki before the homepage was put up, but nothing really happened. I tend to have a LOT of spare time so thats not an issue.
Otherwise dont take my thread as a criticism, as it was certainly not aimed as one.
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Scales
az supporter
Joined: Mon May 30, 2011 9:28 am Posts: 2233 Location: Townsville
Vehicle: 03 Jim M13A no-vvt, Vinyl Spec
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Posted: Sat Aug 11, 2012 2:00 pm |
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Im doing some research now on setting up a private wikipedia style page to use on AZ. Ill let you know how i go EDIT: Found the software the wikipedia uses, would it be possible to run this on the server in parallel to the phpBB software? Its free http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/MediaWikiand found a little bit of a guide on setting it up http://lifehacker.com/163707/geek-to-li ... -wikipediaObviously there are other options too in that department, but how awesome would it be to click on something like "Sierra WT" and have all the tech info or how-to categories come up for that model, as well as any info that is applicable to other models also? and as a wiki, people can submit their changes to be moderated/approved to be added to the article. i think it would be fantastic, and eliminate a lot of dribble. Zookapedia here we come?
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royce
omnipotent being
Joined: Sun Jun 11, 2006 11:30 pm Posts: 17216 Location: Pluto
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Posted: Sat Aug 11, 2012 3:16 pm |
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All good points, I am not trying to have a go but for a long time I tried to make this a Suzuki website with user generated content and a forum tacked on, then facebook come along and made the internet all about bad spelling and moaning about shit In any order of stuff, yeah the broken links in google are broken, I dont know how to deal with them I dont want to make the forum stand out, cause well its not a stand out I like the news thing, maybe a weekly roundup of the forum, new cars, build progress, trips, hot topics etc etc, would be a good way to link back to the forum, its not hard to add a section if somebody (or a group of people) want to get together and do something, note however the dismall uptake of the rig of the month stories, I ask and they rarely happen, if a group of people (say some real webwheelers that keep abreast of every topic in the place and some decent writers to turn the info into a story) want to get together, I can make a place for them to share ideas and info to make it happen. Wiki, yeah yeah its a thing, ive looked about, confluence looks to be the the gun thing to do, it might break stuff installing but we can deal with that, but unless there is more than enough interest in people contributing its just like the home page, dead If some useful content can come of the homepage (which can then link back to the forum IE how too on front page, links to a discussion thread on forum etc etc) and some people can show some dedication to it then I am all for throwing all we can at it, its not a locked down place content wise (cept tapatalk ) but I am not going to have heaps of cool ideas that dont go anywhere I am not going to drive it, most people have noticed I dont do a lot anymore, 6 years is long enough hand holding its time for the place to grow its own legs, but I will get any good idea that can be done underway
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Shansh
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Joined: Sun May 23, 2010 9:35 am Posts: 1816 Location: Goulburn NSW
Vehicle: Ducati Monster
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Posted: Sat Aug 11, 2012 8:37 pm |
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well i am ok at the writing part, i can bullshit with the best of them, though i have no fucking clue about any of the tech bits, if somebody can give me the info they want in an article and how to chuck it up on a webpage i am happy to write a blurb about how awesome or crap something is or what some bloke or chicky is up to, etc,etc..........
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Scales
az supporter
Joined: Mon May 30, 2011 9:28 am Posts: 2233 Location: Townsville
Vehicle: 03 Jim M13A no-vvt, Vinyl Spec
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Posted: Sun Aug 12, 2012 10:06 am |
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just had a squizz at confluence. looks like a pretty good way of going about getting articles up, and we can easily link any articles to the original thread if people want to go down that path.
maybe should approach some of the regular forum guru's in specific categorys to take care of different areas, not restrict them to that area of course. but for instance have seperate Sierra, Jimny, and Vitty guru's and have them in charge of different areas of the wiki. Take valuble threads, make them concise, add pics or whatever and stick them on the wiki with an original link to the thread for further discussion. I know i see gems of information on a daily basis that you could easily pop into a wiki as i troll around.
have anyone able to submit some news and maybe a few blokes in charge of putting that info up on the front page, if no news comes up, have them troll around for a little bit to find something interesting and stick on the front page. maybe something like someones trip to fraser island, where to get permits and a link to a map or something you know?
in reference to rig of the month, rather than just choosing someone from a poll etc. maybe make a pro-active approach, have a designated person PM a member with a cool rig and ask them to write a speal and attach some pics. if they dont have time or dont want to, stiff shit... move along to the next person, guaranteed someone will want to have a brag session on the front page. if we make sure that member doesnt mention anything on the forum, it can be like a weekly/monthly surprise for everyone, and a good way to get to know each other. Its up to the individual to provide as much or as little info as they would like to divulge on a public forum.
none of this will happen without people either being approached or a "call to arms" if you like. I for one share your vision of having a more useful website with this area as a back-end of information and social interaction. speaking of social... perhaps put a "shoutbox" app on the webpage so people CAN dribble shit without fear of retribution, may end up out of hand, but worth a go maybe?
anyway, like I said previously, I have a heap of spare time at work as i am primarily on my PC 90% of the time in a 12hr day, and i ALWAYS have AZ open in a tab. so you have one member right here ready to go. And the times im not at work, i get 2 weeks off.
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royce
omnipotent being
Joined: Sun Jun 11, 2006 11:30 pm Posts: 17216 Location: Pluto
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Posted: Fri Aug 17, 2012 6:07 pm |
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OK whos going to step up for this? I want somebody that reads lots of rigs threads to do a piece weekly, on the same day every week (or a few that rotate) to do a paragraph, something along the lines of such and such fitted their bodylift this week (insert link) while such and such stuck another carby on (link) Nothing fancy, just a sentence and link to threads with good things going on that week Same with trips, maybe a group day trip, maybe somebodies trip they did etc etc One for tech, covering all sections, if some good fab stuff is happening it might be some of that, maybe a hot thread about the best lift for a Sierra Maybe even the life and times of everyone in chat Then I want somebody to put it together to make a single article and stick it on the front page, yes youll need to work as a team, ill make a forum section that only you can see and access to stick your text in or discuss suitable threads if you want have a look at these, given they are massive forums but you get an idea http://www.xda-developers.com/http://xbmc.org/both content that come from the forum made into a best of I think we might even be able to send the article as an email to al users too, but that might break some stuff
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Scales
az supporter
Joined: Mon May 30, 2011 9:28 am Posts: 2233 Location: Townsville
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Posted: Fri Aug 17, 2012 6:17 pm |
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Im more a tech sort of guy, but my sierra knowledge is limited. willing to help wherever you see fit Royce.
You may need to announce this in the chat section so it gets a bit more traffic.
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Scales
az supporter
Joined: Mon May 30, 2011 9:28 am Posts: 2233 Location: Townsville
Vehicle: 03 Jim M13A no-vvt, Vinyl Spec
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Posted: Tue Aug 21, 2012 12:40 am |
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Does the homepage article software we currently use support an RSS feed Royce? just curious
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tim80z
az supporter
Joined: Tue Dec 14, 2010 8:09 pm Posts: 722 Location: Parkes NSW
Vehicle: 2006 Jimny - SOLD
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Posted: Tue Aug 21, 2012 8:38 am |
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Scales
az supporter
Joined: Mon May 30, 2011 9:28 am Posts: 2233 Location: Townsville
Vehicle: 03 Jim M13A no-vvt, Vinyl Spec
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Posted: Thu Aug 30, 2012 7:46 pm |
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royce wrote: OK whos going to step up for this?
Well I Submitted 2, albeit quick, articles to you via PM 2 weeks ago......... how much more stepping up would you like?
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Mitch_Photog
Joined: Sun Jun 19, 2011 10:19 am Posts: 19 Location: Wollongong / Sydney / Brisbane
Vehicle: 1994 Sierra, 1984 Datsun ute
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Posted: Sun Feb 10, 2013 11:00 am |
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I will throw my support behind a MediaWiki, I have been a member on the Datsun1200.com site for quite a number of years and they have one set up which is VERY useful... http://datsun1200.com/modules/mediawiki/index.php?title=Datsun_1200_encyclopediaAs I'm sure we are all aware, this site is full of useful information, but I can honestly say that if it was easier to find amongst the pages of discussion and opinions I would have saved myself money over my build and an absolute shitload of time... I am more than happy to help setup the site, user accounts and hosting (which I could possibly do on my server) contribute and help merge over some of the existing tech already compiled in the Good tech index, however am not nearly as knowledgeable as quite a few of you out there, and also do not pretend to be a web developer, although I have quite a bit of experience... Royce, unless I am looking at the wrong software, Confluence, is not GPL so will have to be paid for and seems quite expensive. Also, MediaWiki allows user management (though I only skimmed over it), so we could prevent all the people who cant type a proper sentence or word from submitting... My interest really is to organize the build/mod info better, although reading all of this thread (as I didnt have time before), I suggest you take a look at the datsun1200.com site as It may have a few features you can hijack... personally I love that the threads with the latest posts are presented in the news feeds, which intern is the home page...
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Scales
az supporter
Joined: Mon May 30, 2011 9:28 am Posts: 2233 Location: Townsville
Vehicle: 03 Jim M13A no-vvt, Vinyl Spec
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Posted: Mon Mar 04, 2013 4:05 pm |
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nice one Mitch. thats a sweet wiki. hopefully we can do something like that here.
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Mitch_Photog
Joined: Sun Jun 19, 2011 10:19 am Posts: 19 Location: Wollongong / Sydney / Brisbane
Vehicle: 1994 Sierra, 1984 Datsun ute
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Posted: Sun Apr 14, 2013 6:13 pm |
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If we get some more support I will look into setting it up when I get a chance.
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