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alexvitara
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Joined: Sat Mar 26, 2011 8:45 am Posts: 1602 Location: Gold Coast
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Posted: Mon Jan 09, 2012 6:43 am |
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Microwire wrote: Make sure you do your springs too cos all that drop is just sexy and not very useful. I've gotta do mine because once the spring is clear then it may as well be in the air.
not completely true.
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Microwire
Joined: Tue Oct 12, 2010 12:40 am Posts: 543 Location: Casula
Vehicle: Vitara 90'
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Posted: Mon Jan 09, 2012 8:21 am |
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buzbox - Sweet, as you were
alexvitara - You're right, it's not completely true, but mostly. It will help a little but not much. You're better off having the springs push your wheel into the ground to get max traction.
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shandy92
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Joined: Tue Nov 25, 2008 10:30 pm Posts: 5066 Location: perth, Australia
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Posted: Mon Jan 09, 2012 8:26 am |
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you dont need the spring for traction if you have lockers
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alexvitara
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Joined: Sat Mar 26, 2011 8:45 am Posts: 1602 Location: Gold Coast
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Posted: Mon Jan 09, 2012 12:40 pm |
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When i changed my shocks and fitted bumpstops i lost 50mm of 'sprung' travel but gained 100mm of 'unsprung' travel and it is noticeably better. It Drives things easier. i would like longer springs but i'm yet to find a spring long and soft enough.
Jesse_vit is going to do some experimenting with jimny front coils. Standard jimny front coils are about the same height as stock but are softer so we are thinking 80mm tough dog jimny coils might go alright.
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shandy92
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Joined: Tue Nov 25, 2008 10:30 pm Posts: 5066 Location: perth, Australia
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Posted: Mon Jan 09, 2012 12:52 pm |
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alexvitara wrote: When i changed my shocks and fitted bumpstops i lost 50mm of 'sprung' travel but gained 100mm of 'unsprung' travel and it is noticeably better. It Drives things easier. i would like longer springs but i'm yet to find a spring long and soft enough.
nissan 180sx rear springs, long and soft thats why i run them in mine. but if you put a bit of weight on it they sag a bit, depends on the condition of the springs. im trying my second set atm, im hoping for a bit more height.
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alexvitara
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Joined: Sat Mar 26, 2011 8:45 am Posts: 1602 Location: Gold Coast
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Posted: Mon Jan 09, 2012 1:06 pm |
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how much lift do they give?
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shandy92
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Joined: Tue Nov 25, 2008 10:30 pm Posts: 5066 Location: perth, Australia
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Posted: Tue Jan 10, 2012 9:21 am |
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alexvitara wrote: how much lift do they give?
depends on the age and quality of the spring, currently im at about 1.5" but sikid got 3" in his old green swb. thats why im trying a different set, hope these are in better nik.
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alexvitara
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Joined: Sat Mar 26, 2011 8:45 am Posts: 1602 Location: Gold Coast
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Posted: Tue Jan 10, 2012 10:13 am |
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i think i might have to make a trip to the nissan wreckers. I'm only after 1-1.5" of lift
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shandy92
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Joined: Tue Nov 25, 2008 10:30 pm Posts: 5066 Location: perth, Australia
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Posted: Tue Jan 10, 2012 11:51 am |
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alexvitara wrote: i think i might have to make a trip to the nissan wreckers. I'm only after 1-1.5" of lift
if you want, you can have these current springs if the newer ones are better. i dont want anything you can just pay for postage?
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BRAD
Joined: Mon Feb 21, 2011 3:21 am Posts: 563 Location: NSW
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Posted: Wed Mar 28, 2012 7:45 pm |
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Hey All, would yous know if any of the shocks are a bolt on fit no drilling or anything for a 50 to 60mm flex? thanks
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Microwire
Joined: Tue Oct 12, 2010 12:40 am Posts: 543 Location: Casula
Vehicle: Vitara 90'
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Posted: Thu Mar 29, 2012 7:13 am |
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Mine bolted straight in, all i did was swap the crush tube from the stockies to the new ones.
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Built4thrashing
Joined: Wed May 21, 2008 11:30 pm Posts: 4972 Location: Dandenong .Vic
Vehicle: 1999 GV. Locked and Lifted
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Posted: Thu Mar 29, 2012 8:14 pm |
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shandy92 wrote: nissan 180sx rear springs, long and soft thats why i run them in mine. but if you put a bit of weight on it they sag a bit, depends on the condition of the springs. im trying my second set atm, im hoping for a bit more height. What model 180sx? Year.........Is there a year that is heavire as they should be the ones to get.
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Built by me to be driven like a rental
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shandy92
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Joined: Tue Nov 25, 2008 10:30 pm Posts: 5066 Location: perth, Australia
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Posted: Fri Mar 30, 2012 1:22 pm |
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Built4thrashing wrote: shandy92 wrote: nissan 180sx rear springs, long and soft thats why i run them in mine. but if you put a bit of weight on it they sag a bit, depends on the condition of the springs. im trying my second set atm, im hoping for a bit more height. What model 180sx? Year.........Is there a year that is heavire as they should be the ones to get. not sure on what the yr is, the guy i got these off had no idea on the condition or anything. the second set turned out to be lowered so chasing a 3rd. dont think yrs play much into it, could be wrong tho.
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Mudwiggle
Joined: Sat Jul 16, 2011 8:45 pm Posts: 24 Location: New Zealand
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Posted: Sat Mar 31, 2012 3:51 pm |
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Would like a definitive answer please for which springs and shocks to use. Too many variations and everyone seems to do something different and have to modify parts. I want a simple bolt in job. I'm not after a sky high lift. What fits without any messing around? Cheers
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atari4x4
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Joined: Mon Dec 11, 2006 10:30 pm Posts: 34843 Location: East Radelayed
Vehicle: SV420+SV620 Vitara's
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Posted: Sat Mar 31, 2012 3:53 pm |
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buy a lift kit... 4 springs, 4 shocks in what ever brand you want.
_________________ You're just hating because you don't understand
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Mudwiggle
Joined: Sat Jul 16, 2011 8:45 pm Posts: 24 Location: New Zealand
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Posted: Sat Mar 31, 2012 5:12 pm |
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Sorry, I forgot to put in ..... I'm a cheap bastard I've used a OME kit before and got SFA apart from a hard as hell ride. The Calmini kits are drug money (not to mention crap from others experiences here in NZ), and no one else in NZ does kits to suit. So a cheap DIY kit is in the books and did I mention it needs to be cheap.
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ninjamoses
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Joined: Mon Aug 13, 2007 11:30 pm Posts: 1787 Location: Butler, WA
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Posted: Sat Mar 31, 2012 5:37 pm |
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Cheap = coil spacers, commodore shocks in the rear, strut extenders on the front, and extend the bumpstops. Factory coils so still rides nice and soft and gives you a 2" lift for a few hundred dollars.
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bailey08
Joined: Fri Oct 23, 2009 10:30 pm Posts: 257 Location: Brisbane North
Vehicle: 02 GV
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Posted: Sat Mar 31, 2012 7:18 pm |
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$100 25mm/50mm coil spacers $15 commodore shocks from a wreckers $10 for a strut mount flip (nuts bolts and washers) instead of strut spacers, only works on vitara.
$125
can't get any cheaper sorry.
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Mudwiggle
Joined: Sat Jul 16, 2011 8:45 pm Posts: 24 Location: New Zealand
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Posted: Sun Apr 01, 2012 7:30 am |
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Cheers guys. So commy shocks to use are VL VN or VT? Wagon or sedan?
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bailey08
Joined: Fri Oct 23, 2009 10:30 pm Posts: 257 Location: Brisbane North
Vehicle: 02 GV
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Posted: Sun Apr 01, 2012 3:37 pm |
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vt wagon for 2in lift, 3-4in use vt sedan shocks. I sugest going to a pick a part type wreckers and measure up some shocks or read the monroe catalogue.
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Mudwiggle
Joined: Sat Jul 16, 2011 8:45 pm Posts: 24 Location: New Zealand
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Posted: Mon Apr 02, 2012 4:13 pm |
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Cheers for the help guys. I'm only after a max of 2" lift. I don't want to go too high so I don't need to drop the front diff etc.
Got some Cefiro/Laurel springs from a joker from work and will get some VT wagon shocks. As for the front setup, Will GV springs and strut spacers or strut top flip work, or will I need spring spacers as well? Will I also need to fit a rear axle top mount spacer as well? Thanks again
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bailey08
Joined: Fri Oct 23, 2009 10:30 pm Posts: 257 Location: Brisbane North
Vehicle: 02 GV
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Posted: Mon Apr 02, 2012 5:04 pm |
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unsure about what springs to use up front, I figure the front end is pretty ridged anyway so I would just use spacers with a strut mount flip. this will work if you have a regular vitara.
don't worry about the rear axle spacer thing. not till you go over 2in. getting the rear to flex well will make up for the lack of travel in the IFS.
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Mudwiggle
Joined: Sat Jul 16, 2011 8:45 pm Posts: 24 Location: New Zealand
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Posted: Mon Apr 02, 2012 7:13 pm |
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Great, cheers Bailey08
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Veggiesoup
Joined: Mon Jul 16, 2012 7:02 pm Posts: 27
Vehicle: Vitara
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Posted: Fri Aug 03, 2012 12:43 pm |
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Hey is the vc-vn shocks good for SWB and LWB? are they both the same ?
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atari4x4
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Joined: Mon Dec 11, 2006 10:30 pm Posts: 34843 Location: East Radelayed
Vehicle: SV420+SV620 Vitara's
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Posted: Fri Aug 03, 2012 12:52 pm |
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mounts are the same for LWB & SWB, you need to match the length to the amount of wheel travel/lift.
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abclarke
Joined: Mon Feb 14, 2011 8:19 am Posts: 1966 Location: Couridjah
Vehicle: 1985 Holden Drover
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Posted: Fri Aug 03, 2012 1:10 pm |
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bailey08 wrote: $100 25mm/50mm coil spacers $15 commodore shocks from a wreckers $10 for a strut mount flip (nuts bolts and washers) instead of strut spacers, only works on vitara.
$125
can't get any cheaper sorry. I like the sound of that!
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Veggiesoup
Joined: Mon Jul 16, 2012 7:02 pm Posts: 27
Vehicle: Vitara
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Posted: Fri Aug 03, 2012 1:14 pm |
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i rang and found that the vn open is 517 not 530 which was mentioned above this shall still be plenty of travel compared to stock for a 2inch lift yes?
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JIMNY_CRICKET
Joined: Sun Jul 01, 2012 7:22 pm Posts: 120
Vehicle: 2000 suzuki jimny
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Posted: Fri Aug 03, 2012 11:00 pm |
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i used shockers out of a jeep wrangler shockers in the back vl springs in the back as well worked really well flexed up nice needed extended break lines cos i could play a note on them they where that tight
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klutched
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Joined: Wed May 16, 2012 3:46 pm Posts: 1691 Location: Brisbane
Vehicle: 99 Grand Vitara
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Posted: Wed Aug 29, 2012 8:46 pm |
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Does anyone know the part number for the gabriel camira rear shock? I'm going to be running a 3-4" lift in my GV what shocks would you guys recommend?
Cheers
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mr_ron
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Joined: Fri Jan 28, 2011 8:16 am Posts: 279 Location: Beenleigh, Qld
Vehicle: Vitara
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Posted: Fri Nov 30, 2012 1:48 pm |
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OK so just to clarify, as after sitting here for a few hours reading, I'm more confused lol... Someone please let me know if this will work lol
Rear: -2 x Gabriel Ultra rear shock absorbers for a VK/VL station wagon, part # 69609 (not Vn/Vc ?) -S13(180xs/silvia) rear Stock springs --Or a 50mm spring spacer(?) -1.5" Shock re-locator brackets
Front: -Strut top flip -25mm spring spacer.. --Or will a pair of GV springs work instead?
Thanks, Ron
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