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Post Posted: Wed Oct 21, 2015 4:58 pm 
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Was thinking maybe routing it to the airbox? Or venting to atmosphere like you

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Post Posted: Fri Mar 25, 2016 9:25 am 
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Heideisadog wrote:
just finishing the last few bits on my conversion, should be able to start the zook this week!
But, what do I do with the charcoal canister? Do I just remove it and plug up the line to the tank, or does it connect somewhere to the new engine?
Thanks for any help


if you want to leave it disconnected just leave it, just unplug the small hose but leave the canister sitting there. if you want it connected for legalitys there is a solenoid on the intake manifold that it is meant to go to iirc (its been 15 years since i did my conversion so i get a bit forgetful). the solenoid only only opens once you start the motor which helps keep emissions down.

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Post Posted: Sat Mar 26, 2016 11:53 am 
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Dan` wrote:
Heideisadog wrote:
just finishing the last few bits on my conversion, should be able to start the zook this week!
But, what do I do with the charcoal canister? Do I just remove it and plug up the line to the tank, or does it connect somewhere to the new engine?
Thanks for any help


if you want to leave it disconnected just leave it, just unplug the small hose but leave the canister sitting there. if you want it connected for legalitys there is a solenoid on the intake manifold that it is meant to go to iirc (its been 15 years since i did my conversion so i get a bit forgetful). the solenoid only only opens once you start the motor which helps keep emissions down.


You legend! I know the solenoid you're talking about!
I have just removed it now but would like to have it all legal!

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Post Posted: Tue Mar 29, 2016 9:37 am 
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Just a comment - You've fitted an older motor into your car. It's going to be painfully difficult to make that conversion legal. (assuming you have a MK1 GTi in your 1996 Sierra) regardless of whether you connect up the charcoal canister or not. Your car, and the MK1 GTi comply with different emissions standards and the change in weight, gearing and aerodynamics between your car and the donor car mean the published emissions data for the MK1 GTi can't be applied to your conversion.

if you mean "cosmetically" legal if someone pops the bonnet then no problem. That's not the same thing though.

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Post Posted: Tue Mar 29, 2016 12:55 pm 
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Well speaking of being legal. I just got a letter saying my car has been randomly recalled for an inspection by the RTA. Great.
But I have fitted a MK3 engine not the MK1.

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Post Posted: Tue Mar 29, 2016 1:19 pm 
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Can you prove your motor is 1996 or newer?

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Post Posted: Tue Mar 29, 2016 2:42 pm 
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Hmm probably not.

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Post Posted: Tue Mar 29, 2016 4:16 pm 
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for vehicle to comply legally you need an engine that complies with emissions for which ever is the newer item (the car or the motor**) and my memory of ADR's is a bit rusty but i think between.. forget it i just googled it, between 86 (with the switch to unleaded) and 97 there were no new ADR's for emissions thus any motor within those years should be fine to use.

https://infrastructure.gov.au/roads/env ... l_Cars.pdf

**if you put a 2016 motor in your 96 zook its going to need to comply with 2016 emission ADR's, if you put a 1900's motor in your 96 you would have to bring the engine up to 1996 emission standards, and probably have it dry cycle emissions tested, all of which would cost a fortune but be completely legal.

as for proving the age of the engine, they will do that by looking up the engine number. you may be able to call up suzuki and ask them but im not sure, they may want the vin of the swift it came out of rather than the engine number

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Post Posted: Tue Mar 29, 2016 4:29 pm 
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taken from http://www.autospeed.com/cms/article.ht ... Two&A=2678

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Since the introduction of unleaded fuel in 1986 there have been no further drastic emission regulation changes imposed on local car manufacturers.

However, from 1998 to 1999, ADR 37/01 was phased in for all new vehicles. ADR 37/01 requires a maximum of 2.1g/km carbon monoxide, 0.26g/km hydrocarbons and 0.63g/km oxides of nitrogen. These emission measurements are sampled in accordance to United Nations Economic Commission for Europe (UN ECE) test standards.
so you should be fine with anything between mid 86 up till some time in 98 but getting close to either side of those dates it may fall into or outside of the incoming adr's

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Post Posted: Tue Mar 29, 2016 4:42 pm 
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^^^^ you are oldschool, autospeed is a blast from the past. 8O

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Post Posted: Tue Mar 29, 2016 7:10 pm 
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That's awesome information thanks Dan!
Kinda hijacked this thread, I'll let it be now.

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Post Posted: Tue Mar 29, 2016 7:58 pm 
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atari4x4 wrote:
^^^^ you are oldschool, autospeed is a blast from the past. 8O
haha well yea i am a fair bit older than autospeed, never liked it much generally, tho to be fair that only came up in my search when i went looking for the years the relevant ADR's came into force. i knew it was around 85's because at the time i bought my 85 charade turbo caus it was the last of the leaded ones before the 86's went unleaded and lost power...
Heideisadog wrote:
That's awesome information thanks Dan!
Kinda hijacked this thread, I'll let it be now.
its probably good into to have in here anyway caus im sure other people have wondered/worried about legalities being that there is so much bad opinions/advice flying around, specially online... and always good to help out a fellow GTI zook owner :)

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Post Posted: Tue Mar 29, 2016 9:01 pm 
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Emissions testing is so exorbitantly expensive that even mentioning it on a zook forum is borderline ridiculous. Factually accurate, but contextually ridiculous.

Within the context of the question we all know that is not what is being suggested. Otherwise we might as well say it is an option for me to design and develop my own 'henno engine' from scratch and have it emissions tested and approved for road use in a sierra. I mean, it's factually true but hardly what is really within the realms of what is being considered.

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