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Post Posted: Wed Nov 19, 2014 12:15 pm 
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I have just did this conversion on my Jimny and wanted to clear a few things up for people that are looking at doing it.

I used the benT kit he now makes the engine mount to suit the jimny.

Here is my adaptor ring
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For the sump you have to swap with the Jimny sump and oil pick up same a doing the sierra one but no need for the sump mod for crank angle sensor as jimnys dont run them.
you need to plug up the hole where the crank angle sensor go's on th 1600 block for this I useed a 3/4 welsh plug with a smear of stagg on it then when putting the sump on I made sure the welsh plug was filled with salastic.

Here is the sensor hole I pluged
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Next is the pick up for the cam sensor now some balenos come with the right pick up on them they have like 11 prongs same a jimny the other baleno's have 3 prongs it wont run with the 3 pron pick up everywhere I have read said you need to change the cams over from the jimny.
I didnt want to do this as it will change the 1600's rev range so i looked into it and figure out that the pick up on the end of the cam comes off.
its pressed on like a rear wheel bearing collor.
you can remove it with a small pully puller.
make sure to put both motors on TDC and mark the pick up on a spot where you can line it up again on the 1600 when instaling it.
Now line it up on your mark (if you miss judge it the timing will be out) and tap it on evenley with a punch.

Here is the baleno one removed.
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Next is right hand engine mount
I used the BenT proto type and it fits great it is close to the alt but dosent intereferr with it if running a falcon alt you may have clearace issues
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Next the water pipe at the back of the water pump the jimny one go's in but the bolt hole dosent line up I just made a small tab so my bracket look like a upsidown L

You can see it in this pic
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Power steer bracket fits ok but the top of the A/C bracket need trimming to clear the exhust manafold and I enlarged the bottom bolt holes to lift the bracket yo as the top bolt on the a/c pump wont line up and you will need a bigger belt for the A/C, P/S. its a 4PK930
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the jimny flywheel and clutch is needed also, so bolt that onto the 1600.

You need to swap the baleno injectors into Jimny manafold as well

Then fit it all back up
I grinded my jimny starter down to make it fit but you can buy a small body starter to suit I think they come out of vitara's

While your at it replace the rear main seal and cam, crank seals timing belt and water pump I would also do the termostat
and replace the clutch is its getting low.

Here is a video of it all together and running all up it took 3 afternoons from start to finish in cluding pulling the baleno motor out

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Post Posted: Wed Nov 19, 2014 3:09 pm 
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Nice work James. Now how about that race ;)

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Post Posted: Wed Nov 19, 2014 3:23 pm 
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Ooo moved to the good tech already lol

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Post Posted: Thu Nov 20, 2014 7:50 am 
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jimbo_jones wrote:
make sure to put both motors on TDC and mark the pick up on a spot where you can line it up again on the 1600 when instaling it.
Now line it up on your mark (if you miss judge it the timing will be out) and tap it on evenley with a punch.



You should check the timing anyway, there is a resistor under the dash that is used to calibrate the ECU - that takes care of any variations in the engine. You can switch resistors to optimise the timing, the 1.6 has different base timing and mapping.

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Post Posted: Thu Nov 20, 2014 7:59 am 
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Mine runs smooth and doesn't need adjusting I was very carful to make sure it went on in the right spot.

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Post Posted: Sat Nov 22, 2014 8:16 am 
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thanks for the walk through, have read a few & every time something was quite vague but this seems to be the most thorough.

i'm still keen to do the G16B swap, but the last engine i lined up turned out to be a 1.5 JDM unit.

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Post Posted: Sat Nov 22, 2014 9:42 am 
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Having pulled the pressed timing cog off and putting back on, id prefer to just swap cam shafts.

Too much a pita to get it back on exactly. Its easy to get a few degrees out on something so small.

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Post Posted: Sat Jan 10, 2015 4:06 pm 
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Thanks for the write up. I just finished my conversion. but decided to swap the cam over. I also had trouble finding a store that stocked 4PK930 belt as it had to be ordered in, I just want to confirm that the 4PK940 also fits and is on the shelf.

What did you do about the brace that holds the intake to the engine mount on the 1300 . Did you use it on the 1600?




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Post Posted: Sat Jan 10, 2015 4:46 pm 
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No didn't use it it dosent fit

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Post Posted: Sun Jan 11, 2015 7:49 pm 
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intresting idea to swap the pick up's over! wonder just how much difference it makes, id like to move my power range down a bit in the jim

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Post Posted: Sat Feb 07, 2015 9:28 am 
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Just to clear up bents kit works with the falcon alternator its tight but works fine

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Post Posted: Sat Feb 07, 2015 9:45 am 
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what year baleno engine did you use ? did it originally have coil packs or a distributor ? i've just ordered my engine, hoping it has the correct lug on the end of the cam is all.

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Post Posted: Sat Feb 07, 2015 9:49 am 
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2000 onwards with the coil packs

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Post Posted: Sat Feb 07, 2015 9:52 am 
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damn, so even with the coil packs it still didn't have the right lugs on the cam. guess i have the fiddly swap in front of me.

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Post Posted: Mon Feb 09, 2015 10:09 am 
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sorry to pester you with more questions jimbo (have a feeling there may be a few of them :S ).

the pick up cam lug on the end of the camshaft, did you pull these while the cam was still fitted to the motor (in the pics it appears you did) ?

did you add some glue/sealer to the welds on your oil pick up after welding it (looks like you may have in the picks) ? were you a little worried about the porosity of the welds or something ?

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Post Posted: Wed Feb 03, 2016 9:28 am 
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Great info thank's gentlemen, What is the oil change capacity now with this conversion? still the same as the Jimny engine due to using the Jimny sump?

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Post Posted: Wed Feb 03, 2016 12:24 pm 
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Still the same oil capacity mate

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Post Posted: Thu May 26, 2016 11:08 am 
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Spacers for lower a/c bracket

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Post Posted: Thu May 26, 2016 11:11 am 
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Nice

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Post Posted: Thu May 26, 2016 1:21 pm 
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Alternatively you can cut 5mm off the lower lug on the block to make it sit flush

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