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Post Posted: Sat Jan 05, 2019 6:26 pm 
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Automatic 1.6 Vitara’s are hard to come by in WA especially with a G16B, most are asking more than I’m waiting to pay ie 4.5k so...a few weeks ago I purchased a 94 for door and drove it 800k.
Surprisingly it rode really well...so much so I’m not sure weather to wreck it even though it was the reason for the purchase.
If nothing turns up in the way of a Vitara with an auto by the time I’m ready to do the swap the manual will unfortunately be going in.

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Post Posted: Mon Jan 07, 2019 11:33 pm 
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Yup, that's about right - it comes out a whole hole further back on the tunnel.
The gearstick might need a bit of a tweak to fall nicely to hand as well.
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Post Posted: Tue Jan 08, 2019 10:31 am 
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Are there any issues with distributor clearance to the fire wall using a none coil pack version?


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Post Posted: Tue Jan 08, 2019 10:35 am 
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Vitara, no. Swift/baleno yes.

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Post Posted: Tue Jan 08, 2019 11:50 am 
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Steve are you saying that the Vitara is unsuitable as in “No” ? Because of the distributor

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Post Posted: Tue Jan 08, 2019 12:07 pm 
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You asked if there were clearance problems with a distributor, the answer is no for the vitara engine. The distributor is on a right angle drive and clears the firewall.

The baleno/swift version pokes straight out the back of the head and won’t fit into a RWD car.

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Post Posted: Tue Jan 08, 2019 12:10 pm 
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Thx Steve

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Post Posted: Wed Jan 09, 2019 9:36 am 
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re: JT M16 transfer, you can bolt the JT2.0 transfer with hi/low and run an arduino etc controller to engage the shifter - very very common in greece where the only SWB is the 1.6 and "MOR POWAR"

the amount of envy they have of our 2.4 SWB's and the rare 3.2 SWB conversion is insane!

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Post Posted: Wed Jan 09, 2019 6:22 pm 
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re: JT M16 transfer, you can bolt the JT2.0 transfer with hi/low and run an arduino etc controller to engage the shifter - very very common in greece where the only SWB is the 1.6 and "MOR POWAR"

the amount of envy they have of our 2.4 SWB's and the rare 3.2 SWB conversion is insane!


I didn’t quite get it? Do you mean box and transfer? Auto box?


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Post Posted: Wed Jan 09, 2019 7:40 pm 
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Can anyone ID the Jimny inlet manifold i need as to the year and model?
To suit the Vitara G16b
Is it as per the pic ?
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Post Posted: Thu Jan 10, 2019 8:33 am 
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Looks like it.

I can’t recall which year the M engine replaced the G (2001?) but you need a manifold from a G13bb to avoid water pipe modifications to get the top hose from the back of the block.

However, do check my thread on G16b coolant flow issues in regard to whether you really want to use a Jimny inlet manifold with a G16b.

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Post Posted: Thu Jan 10, 2019 11:42 am 
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Interesting thread on the coolant flow issues

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A bit more on a M engine swap.....
Mentioned on 27th December in this thread, was an idea of finding a JT SWB Grand Vitara (ran an M16) & using the ecu / loom to run an M18 - more likely to be useful to Jimny owners having problems with the set from M13 to M18.....
Possibility though, that M16 SWB NGV were all single range.....
Manheim salvage are auctioning a 2006 car in Townsville - VIN is JSAJTA74V00201555
Putting that into ssg.asia parts catalogue & looking up transmission, then transfer gear, shows at item no 22, part no. 29211-66J00 "GEAR, LOW" - shifted by an electric motor, but that looks like low range to me?!
Still would likely be a mountain of work to get the ECU / loom to work in a Jimny, but still leave the possibility open.....
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Post Posted: Wed Jan 16, 2019 5:10 pm 
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A bit more on a M engine swap.....
Mentioned on 27th December in this thread, was an idea of finding a JT SWB Grand Vitara (ran an M16) & using the ecu / loom to run an M18 - more likely to be useful to Jimny owners having problems with the set from M13 to M18.....
Possibility though, that M16 SWB NGV were all single range.....
Manheim salvage are auctioning a 2006 car in Townsville - VIN is JSAJTA74V00201555
Putting that into ssg.asia parts catalogue & looking up transmission, then transfer gear, shows at item no 22, part no. 29211-66J00 "GEAR, LOW" - shifted by an electric motor, but that looks like low range to me?!
Still would likely be a mountain of work to get the ECU / loom to work in a Jimny, but still leave the possibility open.....
Rgs, Michael


Is it really needed on a jimny though? Most M18 swapped cars seems to be running “ok”. Sure they may not be at 100% efficiency, but in general they make more power for similar fuel economy as the M13 on the M13 ecu. Would be worthwhile for a Sierra conversion though


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Post Posted: Wed Jan 16, 2019 5:45 pm 
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But... nobody knows. I’ve never seen any dyno or even A/F data of an M18 running whatever cobbled together solution people get to “work” - it’s like they’re afraid of finding out you can’t run a 60kw ecu on a 90kw motor.

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Post Posted: Wed Jan 16, 2019 8:57 pm 
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That pic isnt even close to the jimny inlet manifold you need. The manifold you need has the thermostat housing at the front.

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Post Posted: Thu Jan 17, 2019 9:01 am 
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Oh good pickup losfer. Missed that.

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Post Posted: Thu Jan 17, 2019 11:25 am 
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But... nobody knows. I’ve never seen any dyno or even A/F data of an M18 running whatever cobbled together solution people get to “work” - it’s like they’re afraid of finding out you can’t run a 60kw ecu on a 90kw motor.


I have been in one with jimny Ecu, jimny auto running an A/F gauge and the numbers didn’t shock me at the time. However they were not so imprinted in my head that I could quote now, but I don’t remember thinking “oh damn that’s a worry”.

Somehow the owner managed to make the auto live for 3 years with that setup and it’s still going strong. He even ran big tires ungeared for a while and a lot of off-road use. Mostly sand as the terrain.


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