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murcod
Joined: Thu Apr 16, 2009 11:30 pm Posts: 327 Location: Adelaide
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Posted: Fri Dec 11, 2015 3:15 pm |
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http://www.suzuki.com.au/vehicles/suv/vitaraJust wondering if anyone has looked at / driven one of these yet? It's yet another underpowered new model (same 86kW engine as the S-Cross), but at least they've gone away from CVT's and put a proper 6 speed auto in. I noticed it did quite well in the "Drive Car of the Year" City SUV section against the Honda HR-V and Mazda CX-3 http://www.drive.com.au/car-of-the-year ... l6q9d.htmlI'm looking at changing vehicles and thought it looks like a possible option for a city runabout for the wife?
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ZUZUKI
Joined: Thu Sep 02, 2010 5:50 am Posts: 427 Location: Melbourne
Vehicle: '85 Sierra LWB, '99 GV 2.5L
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Posted: Fri Dec 11, 2015 11:33 pm |
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Looked at it & liked it - nice packaging size, but sounds under-powered (haven't driven one) I notice they dropped the "Grand" of the name of the previous 2 generations, reverting back to just "Vitara" - might be leaving room for a bigger, more powerful version (turbo would be interesting) in the near future? As a city runabout, I think it looks ideal. Rgs, Michael
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murcod
Joined: Thu Apr 16, 2009 11:30 pm Posts: 327 Location: Adelaide
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Posted: Sat Dec 12, 2015 10:01 am |
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It appears to be a step in the right direction. (If only they'd put an engine with a bit more grunt in it.)
It would be good to know what they've got planned as the GV replacement- even if it was just a more modern drivetrain upgrade.
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laurie
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Joined: Fri Oct 31, 2008 10:30 pm Posts: 1540 Location: Blackbutt
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Posted: Sun Dec 13, 2015 6:10 pm |
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murcod
Joined: Thu Apr 16, 2009 11:30 pm Posts: 327 Location: Adelaide
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Posted: Tue Dec 15, 2015 9:39 am |
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I was looking at some specs on Carsales and found the 2WD's 0-100km/h time is 12.5 seconds and the AWD half a second slower again at 13 seconds! It's like looking at the specs for some antiquated 4 cylinder car from the 1980's.
The extra $10k odd for the RT-X is hard to swallow too.
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murcod
Joined: Thu Apr 16, 2009 11:30 pm Posts: 327 Location: Adelaide
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Posted: Tue Dec 15, 2015 5:07 pm |
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Supposedly a turbo version is coming in 2016 - but don't get too excited as it's still only going to have 103kW of power and 220Nm of torque. http://www.caradvice.com.au/403338/suzu ... -australiaQuote: The new 1.4-litre turbocharged direct-injection Boosterjet engine is good for 103kW of power and 220Nm of torque — up 17kW and 64Nm over the naturally-aspirated 1.6-litre model just released in Australia. According to Suzuki, the new Vitara S is good for a 0-100km/h time of 10.2 seconds, a top speed of 200km/h and an EU fuel consumption figure of 5.4L/100km (combined). Both six-speed manual and six-speed automatic transmissions are offered and Suzuki’s Allgrip AWD system is standard on the S. This compares favourably with the 1.6-litre model, which achieves 5.8L/100km (combined) and reaches 100km/h in 12.4 seconds on its way to a 180km/h top speed.
The Vitara S sells for 26,790 Euro (manual) or 28,290 Euro (auto) in Ger-many, about 35 per cent more than the entry-level 1.6-litre’s price there. http://www.motoring.com.au/suzuki-unvei ... a-s-54061/I can only imagine what the local pricing will be- probably as ludicrous as the new Jeep Renegade? You can get it with turbo AWD and manual trans overseas http://www.autoexpress.co.uk/suzuki/vit ... rol-review
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Chop
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Joined: Sat Aug 12, 2006 11:30 pm Posts: 6456 Location: Radelaide ofcourse!
Vehicle: Suzuki GV 03/ 2010 DDIS NGV
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Posted: Tue Dec 15, 2015 7:32 pm |
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Turbo model has same output as the renegade. Probably he same motor? Reality is all cars ar getting weaker in most aspects to get fuel economy. I wouldn't complain with under 6 litres per 100 but.
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murcod
Joined: Thu Apr 16, 2009 11:30 pm Posts: 327 Location: Adelaide
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Posted: Wed Dec 16, 2015 3:55 pm |
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A lot of them don't seem to attain anywhere near those economy figures in the real world though. This test they got 7.8l/100km from the RT-X.Where I live it's hilly and the accelerator would be getting a work out. I'd much prefer more power and not needing to use as much accelerator travel.
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Built4thrashing
Joined: Wed May 21, 2008 11:30 pm Posts: 4972 Location: Dandenong .Vic
Vehicle: 1999 GV. Locked and Lifted
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Posted: Wed Dec 16, 2015 4:52 pm |
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i loked at it and was invited to test drive one before they were officially release.
They are alot smaller than the old GV. manual only available in the base model 2wd. AWD is auto only. fit and finish was average and styling is a bit odd. Trys to continue the GV but fails.
Didnt even bother to drive it as it was notwhat we wanted.
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murcod
Joined: Thu Apr 16, 2009 11:30 pm Posts: 327 Location: Adelaide
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Posted: Thu Dec 17, 2015 8:32 am |
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They're meant to be a modern version of the old Vitara - so not a replacement/ equivalent of the larger Grand Vitara.
I'm wondering if/ when a new Grand Vitara will be arriving? Hopefully it will be more substantial and not simply a stretched version of this.
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Gwagensteve
Joined: Thu Feb 26, 2009 10:30 pm Posts: 12752 Location: Melbourne
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Posted: Mon Dec 28, 2015 2:43 pm |
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I'd put money on the next GV being transverse/AWD.
The market isn't interested in low range and there's very little RWD transmission/transfer case development in the lighter end of the market.
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rustyzook
Joined: Tue Jul 29, 2008 11:30 pm Posts: 1092 Location: Tamworth- central coast
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Posted: Sun Feb 14, 2016 10:04 am |
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We looked at one. Left me sad in the pants, so went and bought a Subaru.
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murcod
Joined: Thu Apr 16, 2009 11:30 pm Posts: 327 Location: Adelaide
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Posted: Sun Feb 14, 2016 9:02 pm |
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The turbo version would be the only one I'd consider (as a city runabout for the wife.)
I'm not keen on their latest servicing intervals of 6mths though. I bought my Kizashi in 2012 and it's under a 12mth interval which works well for the low km I travel. Every 6mths would be money down the drain for me.
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rustyzook
Joined: Tue Jul 29, 2008 11:30 pm Posts: 1092 Location: Tamworth- central coast
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Posted: Sun Feb 14, 2016 9:10 pm |
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Subaru is 6months also, synthetic oil will do that. Yeah they told us a bout the turbo that's coming out. But there was nothing I liked about the new vitara and the grand vitara was exactly the same as the 2012 we were trading in, except it didn't have the Suzuki badge on the back and they had gone up in price.
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murcod
Joined: Thu Apr 16, 2009 11:30 pm Posts: 327 Location: Adelaide
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Posted: Wed Mar 30, 2016 4:54 pm |
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No prices listed yet....
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magnat
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Joined: Sat Jul 28, 2007 11:30 pm Posts: 1066 Location: Southern Highlands N
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Posted: Fri Apr 01, 2016 12:32 pm |
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Its like an S-cross but with different panels... that pretty much sums it up.. The 1.6 in our S-cross screams for a Turbo on hills..
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murcod
Joined: Thu Apr 16, 2009 11:30 pm Posts: 327 Location: Adelaide
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Posted: Fri Apr 01, 2016 1:26 pm |
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No, it's got one big advantage over the S -Cross - a proper 6 speed automatic trans. No CVT.
I'd be interested in the turbo for a second vehicle. They're supposed to handle quite well, so with the extra power it could be a decent thing. But, they really need to price it competitively to vehicles like the Trax LTZ (which won't happen.)
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Built4thrashing
Joined: Wed May 21, 2008 11:30 pm Posts: 4972 Location: Dandenong .Vic
Vehicle: 1999 GV. Locked and Lifted
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Posted: Fri Apr 08, 2016 6:52 pm |
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We considered the Vit for about 10 mins and then went and bought a SSS Pulsar Hatch.
Similar interior space but bigger back seat and is a 1.6 turbo with a 6speed manual, full leather, sat nav etc etc..... and the missus is glad to be back in a Pulsar. Its her 3rd.
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murcod
Joined: Thu Apr 16, 2009 11:30 pm Posts: 327 Location: Adelaide
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Posted: Sat Apr 09, 2016 12:23 pm |
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Does the Vitara sit much higher than something like the Pulsar (ie. easier to get in/ out of for people who have mobility issues.) IIRC they're advertising the Vitara (bottom model with auto) for $22990 drive away. That doesn't seem too bad if the gutless engine isn't an issue.
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murcod
Joined: Thu Apr 16, 2009 11:30 pm Posts: 327 Location: Adelaide
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Posted: Fri Apr 22, 2016 9:39 am |
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murcod
Joined: Thu Apr 16, 2009 11:30 pm Posts: 327 Location: Adelaide
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Posted: Sun Apr 24, 2016 1:51 pm |
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And a review of the turbo models http://www.caradvice.com.au/435575/2016 ... bo-review/The 2WD turbo model actually sounds like a decent vehicle (handling, engine power, equipment and price.) I pity anyone who paid the premium for the RT-X (atmo AWD) which has now been scrapped.
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bakerboy
Joined: Sun Oct 25, 2009 10:30 pm Posts: 2291 Location: Perth
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Posted: Tue May 03, 2016 11:41 pm |
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Why would you go 2wd though? If you want a bigger wagon but no 4wd just go for a damn wagon not a wanna be 4wd.
Few new ones getting around in mandurah, their owners seem to love smashing them around but they're still super slow
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Argus Tuft
Joined: Sun May 01, 2016 8:51 am Posts: 63
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Posted: Wed May 04, 2016 11:42 am |
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Got a phone call from the local Suzuki dealer here in Geelong as I was interested in the 'new' GV, but once I told him that I had (at the time) purchased a '07 GV Prestige (2nd hand) less than 8 months earlier, that was the last I heard from him.
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greyghost
Joined: Sat Oct 13, 2012 1:23 pm Posts: 189 Location: VIC
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Posted: Wed May 04, 2016 12:03 pm |
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bakerboy wrote: Why would you go 2wd though? If you want a bigger wagon but no 4wd just go for a damn wagon not a wanna be 4wd.
Few new ones getting around in mandurah, their owners seem to love smashing them around but they're still super slow tell this to all the Ford territory owners, at least 50% of them are 2WD, so there is some sort of market for them.
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Chop
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Posted: Wed May 04, 2016 12:40 pm |
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I know someone who just bought an isuzu m-ux in 2wd. I asked why and they just said the price.
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henno
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Posted: Wed May 04, 2016 1:53 pm |
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I think 90% of NGVs might as well have been 2wd with the sheer numbers of them that never leave the blacktop anyway.
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murcod
Joined: Thu Apr 16, 2009 11:30 pm Posts: 327 Location: Adelaide
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Posted: Sat May 07, 2016 11:21 pm |
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bakerboy wrote: Why would you go 2wd though? If you want a bigger wagon but no 4wd just go for a damn wagon not a wanna be 4wd.
Few new ones getting around in mandurah, their owners seem to love smashing them around but they're still super slow Have you tried to find a small/ mid size wagon lately (excluding VW products.....) that isn't an SUV? There aren't many to choose from as they're all going to SUV type bodies. An SUV is also a lot easier for entry / egress if you've got medical complaints. (Plus the Vitara turbo AWD is over priced!) Ford scrapped the Falcon wagon many years ago- so a 2WD Territory is it if you want a Falcon type wagon. Lancer and Corolla wagons also ceased production many years ago- instead you have the ASX/ Outlander and Rav4 / Prius V?
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THE_DICTATOR
Joined: Fri Mar 04, 2016 6:09 pm Posts: 140
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Posted: Sun May 08, 2016 9:09 am |
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Is the motor a east-west set up? If not it Sounds pretty good as a jimny conversion. 86kw and a 6 speed auto would be nice.
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bakerboy
Joined: Sun Oct 25, 2009 10:30 pm Posts: 2291 Location: Perth
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Posted: Sun May 08, 2016 6:32 pm |
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murcod wrote: bakerboy wrote: Why would you go 2wd though? If you want a bigger wagon but no 4wd just go for a damn wagon not a wanna be 4wd.
Few new ones getting around in mandurah, their owners seem to love smashing them around but they're still super slow Have you tried to find a small/ mid size wagon lately (excluding VW products.....) that isn't an SUV? There aren't many to choose from as they're all going to SUV type bodies. An SUV is also a lot easier for entry / egress if you've got medical complaints. (Plus the Vitara turbo AWD is over priced!) Ford scrapped the Falcon wagon many years ago- so a 2WD Territory is it if you want a Falcon type wagon. Lancer and Corolla wagons also ceased production many years ago- instead you have the ASX/ Outlander and Rav4 / Prius V? Yeah, I drive a forester haha I wouldn't call that an SUV IMO, still a wagon with a decent ride height, turbo version is fun too
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murcod
Joined: Thu Apr 16, 2009 11:30 pm Posts: 327 Location: Adelaide
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Posted: Mon May 09, 2016 12:08 pm |
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THE_DICTATOR wrote: Is the motor a east-west set up? If not it Sounds pretty good as a jimny conversion. 86kw and a 6 speed auto would be nice. Yes, it is basically a FWD with east west engine. The Jimny/ GV are a dying breed.
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