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Jimmy!
Joined: Fri Aug 03, 2012 10:07 pm Posts: 387
Vehicle: SAS'd Vitara
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Posted: Fri Aug 08, 2014 6:32 pm |
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To go away camping and pack all the cool comforts the vit is getting a bit full, plus heaps of stuff tied down on the roof, bit of a pain in the ass, So it's time to build a trailer. The aim is to have it as light as possible, smallish, and hopefully be designed well enough to get dragged through some really silly tracks with ease. Picked up a rusted pile of crap, and stripped it for anything that might be useful
Last edited by Jimmy! on Fri Aug 08, 2014 6:45 pm, edited 1 time in total.
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Jimmy!
Joined: Fri Aug 03, 2012 10:07 pm Posts: 387
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Posted: Fri Aug 08, 2014 6:33 pm |
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Jimmy!
Joined: Fri Aug 03, 2012 10:07 pm Posts: 387
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Posted: Fri Aug 08, 2014 6:40 pm |
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Want to get the axle up out of the way so I had the machinist at work knock these up. Axle needed to be shortened to suit vitara wheelbase anyway, so worked out good.
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Jimmy!
Joined: Fri Aug 03, 2012 10:07 pm Posts: 387
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Posted: Fri Aug 08, 2014 6:43 pm |
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Better start building the actual trailer now huh.
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SierraDan
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Joined: Fri Feb 04, 2011 10:55 pm Posts: 9347 Location: Newcastle
Vehicle: G13BB Jimny
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Posted: Fri Aug 08, 2014 6:51 pm |
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That will never work.
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atari4x4
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Joined: Mon Dec 11, 2006 10:30 pm Posts: 34843 Location: East Radelayed
Vehicle: SV420+SV620 Vitara's
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Posted: Fri Aug 08, 2014 7:10 pm |
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trailer portals FTMFW you're such a hater dan.
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pete_79
Joined: Wed Feb 06, 2013 8:24 pm Posts: 1571
Vehicle: 91 Tin Top
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Posted: Fri Aug 08, 2014 7:16 pm |
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Will that's a good start, this could get interesting. The main body looks like a good width and might just be deceiving in that photo, but it looks pretty long.
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Jimmy!
Joined: Fri Aug 03, 2012 10:07 pm Posts: 387
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Posted: Fri Aug 08, 2014 7:17 pm |
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Haha yeah, portals!!
And I expect nothing less from him Atari haha Nah, dan goes alright, he's just jealous my trailer is going to be epic
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Jimmy!
Joined: Fri Aug 03, 2012 10:07 pm Posts: 387
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Posted: Fri Aug 08, 2014 7:19 pm |
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pete_79 wrote: Will that's a good start, this could get interesting. The main body looks like a good width and might just be deceiving in that photo, but it looks pretty long. Pic of the trailer frame there is of the crappy, heavy, rusted out donor trailer. It got cut up and sent to the scrappy. Start my new frame this week.
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atari4x4
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Posted: Fri Aug 08, 2014 7:26 pm |
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Jimmy! wrote: Haha yeah, portals!!
And I expect nothing less from him Atari haha Nah, dan goes alright, he's just jealous my trailer is going to be epic trailer wars. going by how your builds seem to get out of hand pretty quickly, this IS going to be good.
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watermouse
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Posted: Fri Aug 08, 2014 8:48 pm |
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SierraDan
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Posted: Fri Aug 08, 2014 9:52 pm |
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Torsion bar suspension axle?
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Jimmy!
Joined: Fri Aug 03, 2012 10:07 pm Posts: 387
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Posted: Sat Sep 06, 2014 6:16 pm |
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Rainy day today, so shed day. Fitted a bit of fab work in between drinking booze Finally started trailer frame.
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Jimmy!
Joined: Fri Aug 03, 2012 10:07 pm Posts: 387
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Posted: Sat Sep 06, 2014 6:18 pm |
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Nevermind the electrical tape U bolts haha
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Mike57
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Joined: Fri Jul 22, 2011 11:09 am Posts: 1009 Location: Melbourne
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Posted: Sat Sep 06, 2014 6:48 pm |
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Do you think the axle will still turn on the U bolts. Is there a plan to stop the axle rotation?
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Jimmy!
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Posted: Sat Sep 06, 2014 6:52 pm |
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Yep yep, perches on the axle, just like any other leaf setup.
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Mike57
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Posted: Sun Sep 07, 2014 9:20 pm |
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OK, I expect you are going to weld them on to the axle? They will have a lot of force on them. Interesting to see how this turns out and whether there will be enough force to twist the spring. You should find out pretty quickly if the tyre rubs on the guards a lot. Interesting build.
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Jimmy!
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Posted: Sun Sep 07, 2014 9:44 pm |
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Yep, welded perches to the axle. Just like any other leaf spring setup.
I presume your referring to the extra twisting load exaggerated by the leverage of the drop axle, I don't really predict any issues. The trailer will be very light, and only carrying some camping gear. With perches, and decent U bolts it should be just fine. There's no way it would ever get the wrap loading that a driven axle on a normal car or 4wd with leaf springs copes with every day?
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Joe
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Joined: Sat Jul 04, 2009 11:30 pm Posts: 48985 Location: Rockingham W.A
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Posted: Sun Sep 07, 2014 10:02 pm |
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Why a drop axle? You would have the same ride hight just going spoa
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Jimmy!
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Joe
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Posted: Sun Sep 07, 2014 10:30 pm |
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I've done a lot of 4wding with trailers over the years and have never found axle clearance an issue, the diffs on the vehicle will hang well below any trailer axle, just my 2c Keep the pics coming I enjoy a good trailer build
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atari4x4
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Posted: Sun Sep 07, 2014 10:32 pm |
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looking good, i'd look at using cable ties as u-bolts instead of tape. there are plenty of drop axled trailers floating around, i was keen on the idea for the same reason, axle clearance. but in reality, the pumpkin & axle tubes on the tow car are going to be grading the track first if your running matched wheels & tyres. EDIT: dammit Mr Boobs beat me by |<---->| that much.
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Joe
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Posted: Sun Sep 07, 2014 10:43 pm |
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atari4x4 wrote: EDIT: dammit Mr Boobs beat me by |<---->| that much. I read that to myself in a Maxwell Smart voice and loled
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Jimmy!
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Posted: Sun Sep 07, 2014 10:50 pm |
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33's-35s on towcar, 31s on trailer, So I thought a little extra trailer axle clearance would be cool
Hoping to drag it into some pretty silly spots, so I kinda want to eliminate any chances of it being an anchor. Light, small, good axle clearance. We'll see how it goes I guess
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Jimmy!
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Posted: Mon Sep 08, 2014 6:27 am |
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atari4x4 wrote: looking good, i'd look at using cable ties as u-bolts instead of tape. That was my first thought haha. But didn't have any
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striker99
Joined: Tue Jul 30, 2013 6:13 pm Posts: 269
Vehicle: Suzuki Jimny 2013
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Posted: Mon Sep 08, 2014 8:01 am |
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If anyones interested.. the trailer I bought recently has a slightly different designed drop axle, they welded an extra piece of 40x40mm axle to the ends on both sides.. The clearance under the trailer is far better than a stock Jimny! I believe they are called stub axles? Going over to a trailer shop to get brake mounts welded onto it this week
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pete_79
Joined: Wed Feb 06, 2013 8:24 pm Posts: 1571
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Posted: Mon Sep 08, 2014 8:40 am |
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The drop axle is fine, it's the slipper springs that will let you down. Think reversing up over a decent vertical ledge, all the force is opening up the slipper spring and it 'could' come apart. Eye to eye is the way to go if you plan on dragging it into some silly places. Keep the pics coming...
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Jimmy!
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Posted: Mon Sep 08, 2014 8:50 am |
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Cheers for the tip! I might look into an alternative there. I'm not keen on slipper springs, but it's what I had sitting there. I'll see what I can come up with.
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christover1
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Posted: Mon Sep 08, 2014 9:39 am |
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I started with slippers as that is what I had, they got chucked out after a year or so. They ate into the chassis, so I fitted extra plates for them to eat into. But they then started to chew through the sides of the brackets. Eye to eye with shox was much nicer handling, and less maintenance. Rebound slippers may be a happy medium if wanting to keep things simple.
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Chop
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Posted: Mon Sep 08, 2014 10:38 am |
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Teflon plastic is your friend! I've done some serious km's with my trailer with slipper springs. Far more than just your average joe that use's their's for the odd camping trip. My chassis is fine, and the rear brackets have a little wear on the sides. They're easily replacable unlike a chassis!
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