[sharky]

im about to airlock the front of the vitara. im after advice. Im thinking of building a bash plate to cover the diff from rock damage. Will this solve the problem. Its getting fitted next week and times running out on finding a GVsteel one.

[atari4x4]

rock damage is the least of your worries with the alloy front diff, it's mainly the rear pinion mount that causes the failures. you can build a collar that braces the pinion mount.

have a read thru this thread for some ideas http://bbs.zuwharrie.com/content/topic,100689.0.html

[steak_knife]

It's not an impact thing, it's the diff twisting under load, no fix apart form Gv steel..

locker will only make it worse..

[christover1]

sharky wrote:

im about to airlock the front of the vitara. im after advice. Im thinking of building a bash plate to cover the diff from rock damage. Will this solve the problem. Its getting fitted next week and times running out on finding a GVsteel one.

suzifour offered me one, but I'd already bought one
http://www.suzukiwreckers.com.au/

found mine thru on line parts locators

[christover1]

http://www.1300wrecker.com.au/Online.aspx

http://www.all4wdspares.com.au/

http://www.exjap.com.au/?id=contact

http://www.eautoparts.com.au/partsreqlist.aspx

http://www.gympiewreckers.com.au/partlocator.php

http://www.findapart.com.au/suzuki_parts.php

[sharky]

atari4x4 wrote:

rock damage is the least of your worries with the alloy front diff, it's mainly the rear pinion mount that causes the failures. you can build a collar that braces the pinion mount.

have a read thru this thread for some ideas http://bbs.zuwharrie.com/content/topic,100689.0.html

Ill need to join so i can open forum site

[atari4x4]

i'd get a steel diff before fitting the locker, when the alloy does explode it might damage your air locker.

[sharky]

Ill ring every wrecker tomorrow morning. Is there a year model or part number i need .

[christover1]

Got mine from

Maryborough Auto Wreckers
690 Kent St, Maryborough, QLD 4650

Fraser Coast, Maryborough QLD, Wide Bay
p: (07) 4122 4277

Was cheaper,
even with delivery costs to Melbourne, than buying a local one.
Doubt they would have another, but worth asking

[christover1]

sharky wrote:

Ill ring every wrecker tomorrow morning. Is there a year model or part number i need .

Must be a manual, as auto GV is alloy too, I think.
Mine was from a 98 GV Manual.

[atari4x4]

being a 1.6 you will be able to use either style from a manual V6 GV, just make sure you get the pinion mount with it if it is the later one.

there are a few thread floating around here with pics of the 2 types of pinion mounts, they changed pinion mount slightly in the start of 99 or late 98.

[sharky]

atari4x4 wrote:

i'd get a steel diff before fitting the locker, when the alloy does explode it might damage your air locker.

I suggested this to Arb and he seems to think its not gonna break once its locked. Explaining its from diff exploding from wheel spinning flat out and when it hits ground it breaks. And this shouldnt happened once locked.

But i cant sleep so i better just get the steel one. Too many pennys to throw down the drain

[atari4x4]

atari4x4 wrote:

Christover, i'm not sure if you've seen these photo's around the traps but they might give you another idea. the "collar" would work better with the sierra carrier, where as the "strap" would work if you were running the vitara carrier.

atari4x4 wrote:

i missed this update, here are a couple of pics showing the early & late mounts.

late model


early model




this link shows how much the sump on the SV420 (2.0L) needed to be adjusted to get the late model pinion mount to work, i'm not sure how much clearance there is on the 1.6 SE416 vitara's

http://auszookers.com/index.php?name=Fo ... 639#128639

from this thread http://auszookers.com/index.php?name=Fo ... ic&t=12677

EDIT: the 1.6l vitara does not need the speed dent in the sump to fit the later GV mount in the 2nd to last link

[christover1]

SUZIFOUR had the later model, and were happy to throw in the mount with it.
Think it was 450 + delivery, but not too sure

[christover1]

I should have said manual V6 GVs

[dave07]

So which model gv front diff would bolt straight into a 1.6 vit?

[atari4x4]

either of the manual GV steel diffs will work in the 1.6 going by what Darkhorse has just done.

http://auszookers.com/index.php?name=Fo ... &start=210

later model GV pinion mount.

[sharky]

ive found a steely from 04 Grand vitara. Is this going to do the job??

[sharky]

Give them the nod to send it? Comes with centre. Will arb fit this? im assuming they pull the old diff apart so they can swap it them around

[Joe]

sharky wrote:

ive found a steely from 04 Grand vitara. Is this going to do the job??

With yours being a 1.6 it should bolt in just make sure its from a manual GV

[Joe]

sharky wrote:

Give them the nod to send it? Comes with centre. Will arb fit this? im assuming they pull the old diff apart so they can swap it them around

Yes they will need to put your gears into the new diff

[sharky]

Joe wrote:

sharky wrote:

Give them the nod to send it? Comes with centre. Will arb fit this? im assuming they pull the old diff apart so they can swap it them around

Yes they will need to put your gears into the new diff

im also needing to change gear ratio for big tyres. Is this the time to do it or is that done in the gearbox

[atari4x4]

being a 1.6 you don't have any real options for diff gears & transfer gears will only reduce low range.

[Joe]

sharky wrote:

Joe wrote:

sharky wrote:

Give them the nod to send it? Comes with centre. Will arb fit this? im assuming they pull the old diff apart so they can swap it them around

Yes they will need to put your gears into the new diff

im also needing to change gear ratio for big tyres. Is this the time to do it or is that done in the gearbox

Is yours carbie or efi? if it's efi you will aready have 5.12 diff gears however if yours is a carbie jobbie then track down some 5.12 diff gears that should help out some what with bigger tyres

[sharky]

Joe wrote:

sharky wrote:

Joe wrote:

sharky wrote:

Give them the nod to send it? Comes with centre. Will arb fit this? im assuming they pull the old diff apart so they can swap it them around

Yes they will need to put your gears into the new diff

im also needing to change gear ratio for big tyres. Is this the time to do it or is that done in the gearbox

Is yours carbie or efi? if it's efi you will aready have 5.12 diff gears however if yours is a carbie jobbie then track down some 5.12 diff gears that should help out some what with bigger tyres

Mine has a carbie. Which model can these 5.12 be sourced from. Not sure whats in the 04 gv diff ill be getting?

[Joe]

sharky wrote:

Joe wrote:

sharky wrote:

Joe wrote:

sharky wrote:

Give them the nod to send it? Comes with centre. Will arb fit this? im assuming they pull the old diff apart so they can swap it them around

Yes they will need to put your gears into the new diff

im also needing to change gear ratio for big tyres. Is this the time to do it or is that done in the gearbox

Is yours carbie or efi? if it's efi you will aready have 5.12 diff gears however if yours is a carbie jobbie then track down some 5.12 diff gears that should help out some what with bigger tyres

Mine has a carbie. Which model can these 5.12 be sourced from. Not sure whats in the 04 gv diff ill be getting?

You can find them in auto and manual efi 1.6 vitaras and the the gv diff will be 4.3 or 4.6

[Joe]

gv will be a 4.3

[sharky]

Joe wrote:

sharky wrote:

Joe wrote:

sharky wrote:

Joe wrote:

sharky wrote:

Give them the nod to send it? Comes with centre. Will arb fit this? im assuming they pull the old diff apart so they can swap it them around

Yes they will need to put your gears into the new diff

im also needing to change gear ratio for big tyres. Is this the time to do it or is that done in the gearbox

Is yours carbie or efi? if it's efi you will aready have 5.12 diff gears however if yours is a carbie jobbie then track down some 5.12 diff gears that should help out some what with bigger tyres

Mine has a carbie. Which model can these 5.12 be sourced from. Not sure whats in the 04 gv diff ill be getting?

You can find them in auto and manual efi 1.6 vitaras and the the gv diff will be 4.3 or 4.6

Seen a few around getting wrecked. How much should i expept to coff up. This is starting to blow the buget but its gonna be worth it

[Joe]

sharky wrote:

Joe wrote:

sharky wrote:

Joe wrote:

sharky wrote:

Joe wrote:

sharky wrote:

Give them the nod to send it? Comes with centre. Will arb fit this? im assuming they pull the old diff apart so they can swap it them around

Yes they will need to put your gears into the new diff

im also needing to change gear ratio for big tyres. Is this the time to do it or is that done in the gearbox

Is yours carbie or efi? if it's efi you will aready have 5.12 diff gears however if yours is a carbie jobbie then track down some 5.12 diff gears that should help out some what with bigger tyres

Mine has a carbie. Which model can these 5.12 be sourced from. Not sure whats in the 04 gv diff ill be getting?

You can find them in auto and manual efi 1.6 vitaras and the the gv diff will be 4.3 or 4.6

Seen a few around getting wrecked. How much should i expept to coff up. This is starting to blow the buget but its gonna be worth it

I sold a rear center for $70 a few months back and now that the one in my car is on its way out i got a price on another one $430
I sold a front one for $40

[sharky]

what ratio is in carbie model? If i get locker fitted in new diff ect. Can i replace the gear ratio later on? Or will the airlocker model change?