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zukmeista
Joined: Sun Mar 22, 2009 10:30 pm Posts: 1273 Location: Whangarei,N.Z.
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Hi guys, just discovered my rear wheel bearings are stuffed again (damn mud!) and I'm going away 4wdin this weekend. I went to my local parts store to order some, I asked for SJ70 bearings, (I have an 88.5 SJ50) and they are a fair bit different to the ones already on there. The new ones are about 20mm wide, 35mm id and 72mm od and they have an o-ring around the outside. the old ones are just the standard wt ons with the spacer built in. Will the new ones I got work?
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Scrawny

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Joined: Tue Jan 29, 2008 10:30 pm Posts: 10528 Location: Brissie
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Can you post up some pics? If they're not the same dimensions then they won't fit (not sure what dimensions they should be)
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zukmeista
Joined: Sun Mar 22, 2009 10:30 pm Posts: 1273 Location: Whangarei,N.Z.
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 Posted: Wed Jan 25, 2012 9:38 pm |
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Unfortunately not, I am at work and camera is at home.
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Scrawny

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Joined: Tue Jan 29, 2008 10:30 pm Posts: 10528 Location: Brissie
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 Posted: Wed Jan 25, 2012 9:45 pm |
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Do you have a part number? Where'd you get them from?
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zukmeista
Joined: Sun Mar 22, 2009 10:30 pm Posts: 1273 Location: Whangarei,N.Z.
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Old bearing:Koyo DG357222DW New bearing:NSK 835-80A
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zukmeista
Joined: Sun Mar 22, 2009 10:30 pm Posts: 1273 Location: Whangarei,N.Z.
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Bump, please help, need to get it going before the weekend 
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youda
Joined: Sat Oct 15, 2011 11:44 am Posts: 204 Location: Townsville
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 Posted: Thu Jan 26, 2012 12:24 am |
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they are the same bearings i have in my 89 wt sierra i believe it also has the built in spacer so make sure the bearing is pressed on the right way.
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Scrawny

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Joined: Tue Jan 29, 2008 10:30 pm Posts: 10528 Location: Brissie
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 Posted: Thu Jan 26, 2012 12:25 am |
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Pm Weaves, he'll soon tell you
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zukmeista
Joined: Sun Mar 22, 2009 10:30 pm Posts: 1273 Location: Whangarei,N.Z.
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youda wrote: they are the same bearings i have in my 89 wt sierra i believe it also has the built in spacer so make sure the bearing is pressed on the right way. The new ones? How do you know? Same part number?
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youda
Joined: Sat Oct 15, 2011 11:44 am Posts: 204 Location: Townsville
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yeah same part number i did a rear wheel bearing two weeks ago had trouble finding them the outside diamiter was the clincher for me i measured mine came up with same measurement.
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weaves

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Joined: Fri Mar 21, 2008 10:30 pm Posts: 1564 Location: Newcastle
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The DG357222DW is the right one.
Never heard of the NSK one, its not a brand i sell regular.
The bearing itself NEEDS to be 35 id, 72 od and 17 wide, and have a spacer of 5mm.
The oring is something you can remove, you don't need it, and if by o ring you mean circlip, same goes, remove it, its not needed in this application
Sounds like you got NT not WT bearings
the difference is the NT doesn't have the spacer built into the bearing (on the inner ring) like the WT ones do.
the bearing you removed is the WT bearing.
I hope my ramblings make sense
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zukmeista
Joined: Sun Mar 22, 2009 10:30 pm Posts: 1273 Location: Whangarei,N.Z.
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Well the new bearing is the same width overall as the other one so will it work? And it is definitely an o-ring. Reason why I am persisting with these ones is that the other ones are an extra $100!
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weaves

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Joined: Fri Mar 21, 2008 10:30 pm Posts: 1564 Location: Newcastle
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Fark me, they are stinging people over there.
is it the same width INCLUDING the spacer ring on the DG357222DW?
basically I'm asking is it 22 or 17 wide?
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zukmeista
Joined: Sun Mar 22, 2009 10:30 pm Posts: 1273 Location: Whangarei,N.Z.
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 Posted: Thu Jan 26, 2012 12:48 am |
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New one is 22 wide. It has a very small spacer bit on the outside and the bearing is wider if that makes sense?
Last edited by zukmeista on Thu Jan 26, 2012 12:50 am, edited 1 time in total.
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youda
Joined: Sat Oct 15, 2011 11:44 am Posts: 204 Location: Townsville
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the ones that are an extra $100 could be the same thing but heavey duty
mine cost $38
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zukmeista
Joined: Sun Mar 22, 2009 10:30 pm Posts: 1273 Location: Whangarei,N.Z.
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weaves

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Joined: Fri Mar 21, 2008 10:30 pm Posts: 1564 Location: Newcastle
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 Posted: Thu Jan 26, 2012 12:53 am |
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Well technically speaking, the bearing will only take up the extra space of the spacer. it won't sit any further out on the inner edge.
it just means the bearing might sit against the backing plate.
and from memory there isn't much, if anything it can damage beside the bearing itself.
my Opinion would be it will work, but not sure for how long.
Ive never done this myself or know anyone thats run that bearing themselves. So its purely OPINION and shouldn't be taken for FACT
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zukmeista
Joined: Sun Mar 22, 2009 10:30 pm Posts: 1273 Location: Whangarei,N.Z.
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 Posted: Thu Jan 26, 2012 12:55 am |
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Ok may have a closer look.
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weaves

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Joined: Fri Mar 21, 2008 10:30 pm Posts: 1564 Location: Newcastle
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 Posted: Thu Jan 26, 2012 12:57 am |
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aslong as you put the spacer to the outside, and the inner ring (including the spacer) matches up to the width of the one that came out. Its worth giving a shot in my mind
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youda
Joined: Sat Oct 15, 2011 11:44 am Posts: 204 Location: Townsville
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 Posted: Thu Jan 26, 2012 1:03 am |
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lol, and if it ends up wrong just lathe 3mm off your brake drums..........
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atari4x4

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Joined: Mon Dec 11, 2006 10:30 pm Posts: 34842 Location: East Radelayed
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youda wrote: lol, and if it ends up wrong just lathe 3mm off your brake drums..........
i've read that before recently on here, speaking from experience?
you got home from memory? 
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ball

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Joined: Wed Oct 22, 2008 10:30 pm Posts: 4673 Location: Katherine
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youda wrote: lol, and if it ends up wrong just lathe 3mm off your brake drums..........
A lathe is a machine NOT a machining operation.
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youda
Joined: Sat Oct 15, 2011 11:44 am Posts: 204 Location: Townsville
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 Posted: Thu Jan 26, 2012 1:09 am |
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lol, nothing fancy like a lathe i had to use a bench grinder cause the ass who pressed my bearings on put them on back to front. i did get home ok and i probally could have left them like that but i like it done properly.
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youda
Joined: Sat Oct 15, 2011 11:44 am Posts: 204 Location: Townsville
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ball wrote: youda wrote: lol, and if it ends up wrong just lathe 3mm off your brake drums.......... A lathe is a machine NOT a machining operation.
well if it means that much to you....
"And if it end up wrong, just machine 3mm off you're brake drum".
I assure you everyone knew what I was talking about
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ball

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Joined: Wed Oct 22, 2008 10:30 pm Posts: 4673 Location: Katherine
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youda wrote: ball wrote: youda wrote: lol, and if it ends up wrong just lathe 3mm off your brake drums.......... A lathe is a machine NOT a machining operation. well if it means that much to you.... "And if it end up wrong, just machine 3mm off you're brake drum".  I assure you everyone knew what I was talking about
You don't need a lathe to do what you describe. There are several other machines that would be perfectly acceptable to use.
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youda
Joined: Sat Oct 15, 2011 11:44 am Posts: 204 Location: Townsville
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obviously, I have stated that I used a bench grinder, Hand grinder would have been better but none availabe at the time. It's a mute point anyway. Using said info from forum members I'm sure none of this will be needed as it will be done properly the first time.
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zukmeista
Joined: Sun Mar 22, 2009 10:30 pm Posts: 1273 Location: Whangarei,N.Z.
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 Posted: Thu Jan 26, 2012 7:55 pm |
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 It worked! Small gap between backing plate and housing but it'll be fine. 
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SierraDan

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Joined: Fri Feb 04, 2011 10:55 pm Posts: 9348 Location: Newcastle
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 Posted: Thu Jan 26, 2012 8:02 pm |
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zukmeista
Joined: Sun Mar 22, 2009 10:30 pm Posts: 1273 Location: Whangarei,N.Z.
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 Posted: Thu Jan 26, 2012 9:39 pm |
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weaves

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Joined: Fri Mar 21, 2008 10:30 pm Posts: 1564 Location: Newcastle
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 Posted: Fri Jan 27, 2012 12:28 am |
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Good to see it worked out.
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