[JrZook]

I seem to be having alot of problems with aftermarket suzuki rubber tcase mounts breaking due to poor quality!!! First one broke on the single side mount doing nothing more than idling up a slighly steep hill (no abuse what so ever). Did a total of a whopping 15kms on it! Replaced this one with a secondhand genuine suzuki item because I didnt want to put the same crap back in and where I was they didn't have any new genuine stuff. Yesterday went out for a fairly mild test run at ormeau. This time broke one of the non-genuine double side rubbers!!! Again not much but crawling over crap!! The genuine sigle side mount held up no probs!

So question is what and where are you guys getting descent mounts from? These broken mounts are exactly the same, rubber parting the metal, not breaking the rubber.

Dan

[BlueSuzy]

Just cruising does a kit. For 2"Lift also.

Some others use other types of mounts.

[weaves]

http://www.auszookers.com/index.php?name=Forums&file=viewtopic&t=9917

check these out too

[want33s]

Have a look in Alex's build thread... He had trouble breaking mounts so I suggested he double up the standard mounts and run 6 instead of 3... He has only doubled up the single mount side so far but hasn't had any dramas yet AFAIK. Doubling up the mounts makes it 100% stronger and unlike the 'bolt through' setups it can still break before the transfer if pushed hard enough.

[Zachius]

Yeah I have definitely had this experience. The non-genuine replacement rubber mounts seem to break really easily.

Genuine ones seem to hold up okay (31" with diff locks and 6.5 gears). The time i did manage to break my first mount after 4 years I was stuck and trying to hop up a rock. Replaced it with non-genuine and it broke first trip out.

Replaced with a genuine mount which seems to be going the job.

[JrZook]

want33s wrote:

Have a look in Alex's build thread... He had trouble breaking mounts so I suggested he double up the standard mounts and run 6 instead of 3... He has only doubled up the single mount side so far but hasn't had any dramas yet AFAIK. Doubling up the mounts makes it 100% stronger and unlike the 'bolt through' setups it can still break before the transfer if pushed hard enough.

Understood Jas but what im saying is that im having real problems with the aftermarket tcase mounts. Ie the mounts themselves are crap so doubling up for instance on the single mount will possibly equal the strength of a single good quality rubber mount. Had some really good ones in my old hardtop 4:1's and 29's never broke one over 4 years and driving it wayyy harder than this one atm.

Zachius spot on mate, seems like you've had teh same issues as im having atm. Really bad quality mounts, the rubber isn't really bonded to teh metal plates.

[Taff]

I use these. They are some sort of Mazda mount. So far they are holding up great. i was breaking a standard mount every trip. still yet to pop one of these.

They are alot beefier than the stockers. cost $17.80ea.

Part # is MT8135.

[v.w.dave]

don't waist your time doing the double mount. I did it and it still broke the first time out. I have just-cruzins kit here about to go in and I know 4 people that have them and have not had any problems. I currently have a suzuki mount in mine with a strap over the top keeping the case from lifting up under the power. This set up has lasted me for over 2 months now without a broken mount.
Now I drive mine very hard and I give it heapss every time out and without the strap I brake the mounts every time out.
The double mouts are a waist of time.
The mounts 31zook has look good and will try them out next time around.

[31zook]

Jimmy makes up these TC mount's that look stock bolt up stock and are made to be 75% stronger than standard (yes he has a jig at work to test these things). I went out with timmy, so he can vouch for me when i say i was driving twin locked, 6.5s and 33s hard, the mounts didn't move at all. The mounts are made from poly blocks which don't strech, ages as quickly and go loose like rubber does after a while.

Pm me if your interested

[JrZook]

31zook wrote:

Jimmy makes up these TC mount's that look stock bolt up stock and are made to be 75% stronger than standard (yes he has a jig at work to test these things). I went out with timmy, so he can vouch for me when i say i was driving twin locked, 6.5s and 33s hard, the mounts didn't move at all. The mounts are made from poly blocks which don't strech, ages as quickly and go loose like rubber does after a while.

Pm me if your interested

Poly blocks. Much vibration through the car when your running at highway speeds??

[31zook]

jimmy was worried about it at first, but a highway run on HT's proved to be no noteable difference between the two mounts

[alex]

want33s wrote:

Have a look in Alex's build thread... He had trouble breaking mounts so I suggested he double up the standard mounts and run 6 instead of 3... He has only doubled up the single mount side so far but hasn't had any dramas yet AFAIK. Doubling up the mounts makes it 100% stronger and unlike the 'bolt through' setups it can still break before the transfer if pushed hard enough.

Thanks want33s I’m also using Taffs mounts I haven’t broken any yet because I haven’t driven it maybe this weekend

And v.w.dave there not a waist of time because you need a week point that will break unlike the bolt through design

[ajsr]

alex wrote:

want33s wrote:

Have a look in Alex's build thread... He had trouble breaking mounts so I suggested he double up the standard mounts and run 6 instead of 3... He has only doubled up the single mount side so far but hasn't had any dramas yet AFAIK. Doubling up the mounts makes it 100% stronger and unlike the 'bolt through' setups it can still break before the transfer if pushed hard enough.

Thanks want33s I’m also using Taffs mounts I haven’t broken any yet because I haven’t driven it maybe this weekend

And v.w.dave there not a waist of time because you need a week point that will break unlike the bolt through design

I disagree with that all mine are bolt through poly on rhs and solid alloy on the lhs with no breakages and plenty of stupid shit.

[alex]

ajsr wrote:

I disagree with that all mine are bolt through poly on rhs and solid alloy on the lhs with no breakages and plenty of stupid shit.

there has been no breakages because the only thing left to break is the t/case. Way i see it is i would rather replace a mount then a t/case

[just_cruizin]

I won't solid mount but I would positively mount. If you take the precautions, Rock7oy ring etc the case will hold up and the weak link will be the uni's. But that's my take.

[mrw82]

While I see merit in the weak point or "fuse" idea, the solid bolted design works well and doesn't instantly mean your going to break your transfer case.
casper is running Just Cruisin's transfer lift kit, plays hard and enters quite a few comps each year. no broken case or mounts since fitting them. (can't remember what series his gears are)
NFI ran series 3's last year with a JC kit. not problems at all. This year it will be running series 1 rocklobster. for those that don't know NFI, it is used and abused, every time it gets driven.

Both these zooks run a rocktoy ring, without this the case would likely blow anyway, regardless of mounts.

My LWB is running JC's kit aswell, series 1's no rocktoy ring and no troubles in the couple of months that I've had the kit in. and that includes a hard landing directly on the case when trying to climb a ledge.

Im not saying Justcruisin's kits are the only answer to not breaking mounts, because that link that weaves posted looks like a bloody good idea too.
I haven't heard of any case failures as a result of using JC's kits, and you have the benefit of lifting your case at the same time as beefing up the mounts.

[v.w.dave]

All 3 borken cases I have seen have been due to the person that put the 6.5s in shaved wayyyyy to much off to fit the gears. And I have seen pictures of a input bearing failing and cracking he case.
I have been through about 10 or more zuki mounts and I now have a hole in my floor that I can fit my pinky in.
I have twisted the mount the comes off the passanger side fraim rail from how hard the transfer pulls on it. I have folded the metal bolted tothe side of the transfer the holds the 2 drivers side mounts. I have put my sierra through hell and have done everything possible to harm the drive line and have yet to have a problem with the transfer case it self. As long as you build it right and with good seals, good bearings and regularly check the quality of the oil regularly they are nere bullit proof. They dont need a "fuse". You drivers out there need to drive the car within your limits. Wit hthat I mean if you cant afford to brake it dont drive it like I do. If you can afford all the bells and wistles then put them on. If you can afford gears but can't afford the broken Uni's, Broken axil here and there and the mounts and and and and then dont get the gears. Its a simple known fact the more yuou modify the more can go wrong. The people on here that have been around a while know exactly what I am talking about.

Making a double mount is a band-aid not a fix. Its a Waist of time.

[JrZook]

v.w.dave wrote:

Making a double mount is a band-aid not a fix. Its a Waist of time.

I probably wouldn't go as far as saying its a waist of time. Its probably not the most strongest compared to what you run but is adequate for its use. Double the mount double the strength of the valcanised rubber mounts, with not too much extra work to add it in. Yes may be a bandaid but is 2x as strong as the original bandaid.

These mazda mounts, where about are you guys getting them from in brizzy?

Dan

[Taff]

it just comes down to personal preference.

some people break a mount so they upgrade it to a better one.

some take the mount out of the equation and put a bolt right through.'

one less thing to go pop. The problem is in a situation where something is 100% going to go pop the mount is no longer an option.

This then only leaves expensive bits.

[want33s]

Double mount setup is 100% stronger than standard.... I wouldn't call ANY mod that is 100% stronger than standard (and still breakable under extreme duress) a WASTE of time.

[just_cruizin]

Different Strokes I guess

[bron5on]

JrZook wrote:

These mazda mounts, where about are you guys getting them from in brizzy?

Dan

Got mine from ripco. I'm in tas tho, not bris. Haven't installed em yet to try em tho. It's on my to do list. A list that just keeps on growing!

[Taff]

I found them at KB auto.

Any parts shop should have them in stock or get them for you.