which bit are you getting? the housing part the axles slide into or the carrier part that the gears go into and mitchy has broken?
when you get em post the part numbers up
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| Author: | Mitchy [ Tue Jul 17, 2007 4:44 pm ] |
| Post subject: | snapped front diff |
Sounds pretty bad but luckily I didn't plow the the front diff into a huge rock but rather bumped it into a tree stump while going over it backwards, only way out, was late for dinner too. So it just broke and moved from the mount. The bit that goes from the diff to the transfer case is rubbing against the bottom of the motor a bit but I think it's alright otherwise. Obviously I won't be 4wding untill it gets fixed, which could be a good thing. What model GV can I get a steel front diff from to replace this one and will it be expensive? Thanks. |
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| Author: | royce [ Tue Jul 17, 2007 4:54 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: snapped front diff |
I think its 2000 on manual GV and all 2003 on GV's expect around $1000+ to do it |
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| Author: | cj_zuki [ Tue Jul 17, 2007 5:50 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: snapped front diff |
All years of V6 manuals and late '03 auto V6's onwards and don't forget the same goes for XL-7's although their cross member mount is a little different so some modding is needed. Putting too much load on it in reverse is what did it to yours. If you had a strap over it to allow it to be bolted down to the cross member on both sides instead of the single mount to one side as supplied by the Factory it may well not have broken. |
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| Author: | MART [ Tue Jul 17, 2007 6:10 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: snapped front diff |
Don't know much about GV's , is that steel or alloy and is it cast , Cheers Paul. |
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| Author: | cj_zuki [ Tue Jul 17, 2007 6:24 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: snapped front diff |
The steel front diffs are in the models I mentioned above. All others have the alloy housings with the exception of the diesel models in other markets. |
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| Author: | Grantlington [ Tue Jul 17, 2007 8:34 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: snapped front diff |
shit ay? im getting mine done as we speak and the housing is only costing 250 plus freight plus im getting new diffs (5.12) (remember i have a j20a) and the brakes done. |
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| Author: | Mitchy [ Tue Jul 17, 2007 9:10 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: snapped front diff |
ok thanks for that. Will there be any gearing issues? |
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| Author: | Mitchy [ Tue Jul 17, 2007 9:22 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: snapped front diff |
Also how would I go about getting one, and one that's decent? Thanks again. |
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| Author: | Grantlington [ Tue Jul 17, 2007 11:54 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: snapped front diff |
go to a suzuki supplier. the one im getting is brand new but i am just getting the housing. if you do this they will swap your gears in the diff into the new steel one. |
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| Author: | royce [ Wed Jul 18, 2007 12:30 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: snapped front diff |
which bit are you getting? the housing part the axles slide into or the carrier part that the gears go into and mitchy has broken? when you get em post the part numbers up
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| Author: | rodw [ Wed Jul 18, 2007 1:37 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: snapped front diff |
I'd like to know more about breaking front Diffs. Hopefully from others experiences, not my own! So where Mitchy broke his (at the mount), is that where they usually bust or do they break elsewhere if you lift them? Has anybody got pics of the modified stap mounting cj describes? Would you be game to put a front locker in an aluminium housing that has the strap mount? Thanks guys. |
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| Author: | Mitchy [ Tue Sep 11, 2007 1:54 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: snapped front diff |
So a local wreker has sourced a couple from NSW and Vic but they're asking for a ratio...what would that be? Thanks again. |
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| Author: | Mitchy [ Wed Sep 19, 2007 1:04 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: snapped front diff |
Anyone??? Do I need a specific diff ratio to swap a Vitara front diff with steel GV diff? Thanks. |
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| Author: | royce [ Wed Sep 19, 2007 1:08 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: snapped front diff |
no cause youll have to put the guts from your diff into the steel part anyway |
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| Author: | rodw [ Wed Sep 19, 2007 1:50 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: snapped front diff |
Mitchy, What sort of money for the steel diff housing have you been quoted to get them up from down south? THis mod is on my todo list... |
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| Author: | Mitchy [ Wed Sep 19, 2007 2:25 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: snapped front diff |
ahhhh ok thanks. Yeah they didn't give me a quote 'cos they were waiting on a reply from me, hopefully this'll all cost under $1k though. I'll update again later... |
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| Author: | Mitchy [ Thu Sep 20, 2007 3:43 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: snapped front diff |
Another question, I need to get the terminology right. A guy in NSW has a housing with the gearing pulled out of it. Would that be exactly what I'm looking for? Thanks again. |
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| Author: | royce [ Thu Sep 20, 2007 5:29 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: snapped front diff |
there is the housing which normally refers to the 'front' part that the axles normally slide into and the actual centre bolts into then there is the carrier, which is the bit all the gears go into and normally snap |
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| Author: | Mitchy [ Thu Sep 20, 2007 11:40 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: snapped front diff |
Right so the carrier would be the big alloy bit that I want to replace with a steel one. Thanks again. |
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| Author: | steve [ Thu Sep 20, 2007 11:46 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: snapped front diff |
yer i think Bruce went through this drama with wreckers, they all have a different understanding as to what things are, and give prices on the wrong things. |
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| Author: | royce [ Thu Sep 20, 2007 11:50 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: snapped front diff |
really you want to replace both bits but the carrier is the part the gears are on and has the mount that bolts to the crossmember and snaps off |
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| Author: | Mitchy [ Fri Sep 21, 2007 12:59 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: snapped front diff |
hmmm ok well now I have a laymans and techical explanation, should be no worries, thanks. |
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| Author: | cj_zuki [ Fri Sep 28, 2007 3:04 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: snapped front diff |
If anybody has swapped their R&P's into a steel housing, do you have a 4.3 R&P that came out of it kicking around that you don't want? If so PM me. |
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| Author: | TheOtherLeft [ Fri Sep 28, 2007 4:51 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: snapped front diff |
Mitchy wrote: Right so the carrier would be the big alloy bit that I want to replace with a steel one.
Thanks again. So the carrier is the bit that sits inside the ring gear? If that is right then power goes thru the following: pinion gear -> ring gear -> carrier -> axles -> wheels Is that correct? |
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| Author: | royce [ Fri Sep 28, 2007 5:19 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: snapped front diff |
no thats the hemisphere carrier is the part the pinion and hemisphere bolt to |
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| Author: | Mitchy [ Wed Oct 03, 2007 3:28 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: snapped front diff |
Hmmm well they're asking for the diff ratio again, 4.3 for a manual is right? But the go is that the guts get swapped around anyway isn't it? Thanks again. |
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| Author: | royce [ Wed Oct 03, 2007 3:31 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: snapped front diff |
yeah dont worry about ratio, or get a 4.3 and help cj out 
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| Author: | rodw [ Wed Oct 03, 2007 9:13 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: snapped front diff |
Mitchy, You only need the housing 'cos you will re-use your guts. See Pic. They probably don't want to sell just the housing so you got to get the lot, spare guts included. |
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| Author: | Mitchy [ Thu Oct 18, 2007 2:52 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: snapped front diff |
Well the wreckers here have sourced one in Vic for about $900 all up, sounds very expensive, includes about $200 of freight. He's ordered both of these parts labeled in the pic and I think that's what he called them. Is that too expensive? I've asked for both parts since they're both alloy and both exposed... Thanks again. |
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| Author: | cj_zuki [ Thu Oct 18, 2007 3:34 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: snapped front diff |
Mitchy wrote: Well the wreckers here have sourced one in Vic for about $900 all up, sounds very expensive, includes about $200 of freight.
 That's not cheap at all. I wouldn't want to be paying more than about half of that. Who's that through?
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