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Suzuki Engine block and head data: G13- G16

This information comes from many posters world wide. Not me.
If you find an error, please contact me.

G16A = Made in Japan actual. ( surely isnt number of cams or valves)
G16B = Made overseas (not Japan)

The 16V DOHC swift GT , had forced everything: pistions, rods, and crank.
The non GT has nothing forged.
The G16A heads are weaker.
The G16B crank has counterweights on each lobe , unlike the 2 ends of the former. Better crank.
The Crank and cam are hollow, on many. ( so called weight savings).

The back of the bock is marked G16A and has no meaning at all , A or B.
The vehicle will have a plate showing the truth. A or B. Same plate as color code and veh. weight.
The engine serial number will say G16B too , if it is.
The G16A /B bocks can have a number of different pistions, 2 or 4 dish valve slots.
All regular G16A/B engines have weak cast rods, (except GT variant). (Turbo issue).
All G series blocks are very strong, thanks to their pressure die cast design and webbing.

Oil Sumps and pans vary.
-----------------------------------------------Heads----------------------------------------------------

The G16B 16V SOHC head has more casting webbing than the G16A SOHC head has, all heads are essentially interchangable between the G13A/B G15A and G16A/B as the bore variation is so minor, the G13B 16V head is the same head found on the G16A/B; it even has the same Casting numbers in it, from the molds used.

-------------------------------------block raw data -----------------------------------------------

G13/16 - 84mm bore spacings

deck height (block height)--------------
Suzuki G16 = 215mm
Suzuki G15 = 205mm
Suzuki G13 = 200mm?

Main journal diameters---------------
G16a/b = 52mm

Crankpin diameters-------------------
Suzuki G16a/b = 44mm

Rod Lengths --------------------------
G16= 138.5mm

Valve sizes ---------------------------
G13/16-a/b/bb SOHC 16v all same
G16 16v
inlet = 30.1mm X 5.5 X 92.3 1R
G13b 16v
inlet = 29.1mm X 5.5 X 92.3 1R
exhaust = 24.9mm (all 16v)

capacities------------------------------------------------------------------
G13B and BB
1298cc - 74mm bore x 75.5mm stroke
G13A?
1324cc - 74mm bore x 77mm stroke
G15
1493cc - 75mm bore x 84.5mm stroke?
g16a/b
1590cc - 75mm bore and 90mm stroke
90mm stroke is not a problem:
The fiat and lancia engines have shown this with their 10,000rpm 90mm stroked 4 cylinder engines.

Crank-----------------------------------------------------------------------X
Stroke
G13B - 75.5 and 77mm (forged and cast respectively)
G13bb - (cast with solid journals - very strong compared to hollow)
G16B - 90mm (cast with hollow journals)
G15 - 84.5mm? (cast with hollow journals)

Pistons-----------------------------------------------------------------------X

Gudgeon pins
All 19mm ?

Piston Pin heights-----------------------------------------------------------
G13b 29.1 mm
G15 ??mm
G16b 28.5 mm

Engine weights-------------------------------------------------------------X
G16b = Total 131.75 lbs 60kgs!

G13B crank has a 75.5mm stroke, 45mm mains, and 42mm rod journals?

update: g16a/b block height 215mm
measured from crank centerLINE , to deck

Author:	Fluffy [ Wed Oct 31, 2007 3:48 pm ]
Post subject:	G16a-G16b..whats the difference?
can any one tell me...? Thanks Fluffy

Author:	tanshi [ Wed Oct 31, 2007 4:08 pm ]
Post subject:	Re: G16a-G16b..whats the difference?
in short, G16a is a carbie motor g16b is efi

Author:	Fluffy [ Wed Oct 31, 2007 4:10 pm ]
Post subject:	Re: G16a-G16b..whats the difference?
hmm but physicaly... will a g16a head bolt to a g16b will a g16b bolt up to a g16a bellhousing mounts. will a carbie manifold bolt sraight up to a 16b?

Author:	tanshi [ Wed Oct 31, 2007 4:15 pm ]
Post subject:	Re: G16a-G16b..whats the difference?
I think the bell housing pattern is the same, ie will bolt to the same gearboxes. I dont think the head patterns are the same, and im not sure why you would wanna bolt a carby head to an efi block

Author:	Fluffy [ Wed Oct 31, 2007 4:26 pm ]
Post subject:	Re: G16a-G16b..whats the difference?
just purely to satisfy my curiosity...it seems 16bs are abit easier to get hold of I found a little bit of info HERE on outerlimits

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Author:	royce [ Wed Oct 31, 2007 4:38 pm ]
Post subject:	Re: G16a-G16b..whats the difference?
I have 16valve G16a at home so thats incorrect I dont know the exacts of it all but may be something to do with years like the G13a and G13b afaik its all mostly interchangeable

Author:	royce [ Wed Oct 31, 2007 4:44 pm ]
Post subject:	Re: G16a-G16b..whats the difference?
http://ballz.ababa.net/kicker/block-data.html wrote: Suzuki Engine block and head data: G13- G16 This information comes from many posters world wide. Not me. If you find an error, please contact me. G16A = Made in Japan actual. ( surely isnt number of cams or valves) G16B = Made overseas (not Japan) The 16V DOHC swift GT , had forced everything: pistions, rods, and crank. The non GT has nothing forged. The G16A heads are weaker. The G16B crank has counterweights on each lobe , unlike the 2 ends of the former. Better crank. The Crank and cam are hollow, on many. ( so called weight savings). The back of the bock is marked G16A and has no meaning at all , A or B. The vehicle will have a plate showing the truth. A or B. Same plate as color code and veh. weight. The engine serial number will say G16B too , if it is. The G16A /B bocks can have a number of different pistions, 2 or 4 dish valve slots. All regular G16A/B engines have weak cast rods, (except GT variant). (Turbo issue). All G series blocks are very strong, thanks to their pressure die cast design and webbing. Oil Sumps and pans vary. -----------------------------------------------Heads---------------------------------------------------- The G16B 16V SOHC head has more casting webbing than the G16A SOHC head has, all heads are essentially interchangable between the G13A/B G15A and G16A/B as the bore variation is so minor, the G13B 16V head is the same head found on the G16A/B; it even has the same Casting numbers in it, from the molds used. -------------------------------------block raw data ----------------------------------------------- G13/16 - 84mm bore spacings deck height (block height)-------------- Suzuki G16 = 215mm Suzuki G15 = 205mm Suzuki G13 = 200mm? Main journal diameters--------------- G16a/b = 52mm Crankpin diameters------------------- Suzuki G16a/b = 44mm Rod Lengths -------------------------- G16= 138.5mm Valve sizes --------------------------- G13/16-a/b/bb SOHC 16v all same G16 16v inlet = 30.1mm X 5.5 X 92.3 1R G13b 16v inlet = 29.1mm X 5.5 X 92.3 1R exhaust = 24.9mm (all 16v) capacities------------------------------------------------------------------ G13B and BB 1298cc - 74mm bore x 75.5mm stroke G13A? 1324cc - 74mm bore x 77mm stroke G15 1493cc - 75mm bore x 84.5mm stroke? g16a/b 1590cc - 75mm bore and 90mm stroke 90mm stroke is not a problem: The fiat and lancia engines have shown this with their 10,000rpm 90mm stroked 4 cylinder engines. Crank-----------------------------------------------------------------------X Stroke G13B - 75.5 and 77mm (forged and cast respectively) G13bb - (cast with solid journals - very strong compared to hollow) G16B - 90mm (cast with hollow journals) G15 - 84.5mm? (cast with hollow journals) Pistons-----------------------------------------------------------------------X Gudgeon pins All 19mm ? Piston Pin heights----------------------------------------------------------- G13b 29.1 mm G15 ??mm G16b 28.5 mm Engine weights-------------------------------------------------------------X G16b = Total 131.75 lbs 60kgs! G13B crank has a 75.5mm stroke, 45mm mains, and 42mm rod journals? update: g16a/b block height 215mm measured from crank centerLINE , to deck

Author:	Fluffy [ Wed Oct 31, 2007 7:27 pm ]
Post subject:	Re: G16a-G16b..whats the difference?
royce wrote: I have 16valve G16a at home so thats incorrect I dont know the exacts of it all but may be something to do with years like the G13a and G13b afaik its all mostly interchangeable is a 16 valve cross flow?

Author:	royce [ Wed Oct 31, 2007 7:32 pm ]
Post subject:	Re: G16a-G16b..whats the difference?
they all are

Author:	cj_zuki [ Wed Oct 31, 2007 9:12 pm ]
Post subject:	Re: G16a-G16b..whats the difference?
Most refer to the 8v carby engine as a G16A and the 16v efi engine as aG16B even though you can find G16A on the 16v block. As mentioned the 16v has a better balanced crank and the pistons are different to suit 4 valves per cylinder instead of 2.

Author:	Fluffy [ Thu Nov 01, 2007 12:07 pm ]
Post subject:	Re: G16a-G16b..whats the difference?
royce wrote: they all are err my bad royce.....

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