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| Author: | Dr_Snapid [ Sat Sep 25, 2010 8:53 am ] |
| Post subject: | Is a 2003 jimny running gear same as SJ413? |
I have a 2003 jimny with auto Rear diff seems to have been damaged after some water ingestion. Might need to replace the centre. Is this the same as a SJ413? I can find alot of SJ413 stuff that says its compatible but i'm not sure. Might do a locker while i'm at it |
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| Author: | Benz [ Sat Sep 25, 2010 10:09 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Is a 2003 jimny running gear same as SJ413? |
diff size is the same i think. gear ratio might be different though |
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| Author: | alien [ Sat Sep 25, 2010 10:16 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Is a 2003 jimny running gear same as SJ413? |
you can get air lockers for jimny... do that =) http://www.arb.com.au/products/arb-air- ... cessories/ |
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| Author: | Benz [ Sat Sep 25, 2010 10:30 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Is a 2003 jimny running gear same as SJ413? |
getting a air locker be easier. but might not be cheaper. i know the diff ratio on a auto Jimny is different to a manual one |
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| Author: | Dr_Snapid [ Sat Sep 25, 2010 10:40 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Is a 2003 jimny running gear same as SJ413? |
i suppose i better figure out my ratio. there seems to be some disagreement re ratios, some say everyone is 4.09, manual or auto, others say they are different. |
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| Author: | Dr_Snapid [ Sat Sep 25, 2010 10:48 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Is a 2003 jimny running gear same as SJ413? |
also i think my issue is with the ring gear/crown gear. a hum/whine from the rear when under power/cruising. goes away when you lift off the throttle so i'll need to replace these as the locker doesnt include these parts. A local wrecker can sell me a jimny centre for $350 or whole diff for $700.00 never even asked about ratios but i assume the one they have is from a manual my diff started playing up after i got bogged in deep water. when i drained it 5L of mush came out. so there is a chance the damage is more than just the centre so i'm thinking of replacing the diff (regrettably...) |
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| Author: | Dr_Snapid [ Sat Sep 25, 2010 10:57 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Is a 2003 jimny running gear same as SJ413? |
on a side note... if i buy both front and rear centres from a manual, i would increase final drive to 4.3 giving me a little more lowdown crawling torque. I do sometime do highway driving though so i wont commit to this yet. the point of my OP is that i will pay more if i have to specifically shop for a jimny auto diff centre, as opposed to if i can buy any centres from other compatible cars as well. i realise if i change ratios i have to do front and rear so they match though. if i must replace my diff centre i might as well see if i can make any improvements like lockers or better ratios hope that makes sense |
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| Author: | alien [ Sat Sep 25, 2010 11:05 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Is a 2003 jimny running gear same as SJ413? |
the arb site lists a difference between models too - as in, you need to sprecify the year of your jimny between 99-05 and 05-10... perhaps the difference is not between manual and auto, but between builds? (maybe the VVT engined jimny has different ratios) |
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| Author: | Dr_Snapid [ Sat Sep 25, 2010 11:06 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Is a 2003 jimny running gear same as SJ413? |
my 2003 jimny is the one without vvt. sierra stuff seems readily available. just dunno if it fits lol |
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| Author: | joeblow [ Sun Sep 26, 2010 9:38 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Is a 2003 jimny running gear same as SJ413? |
Benz2369 wrote: i know the diff ratio on a auto Jimny is different to a manual one
yet to see an auto one that has a different ratio than a manual. i've contacted suzuki about different ratios for that model and they do not exist. they are all 4.09 to 1. if you are after another centre get one from a widetrack maruti, they are the same size and are 4.1 to 1 which will be fine. |
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| Author: | Benz [ Sun Sep 26, 2010 10:16 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Is a 2003 jimny running gear same as SJ413? |
joeblow wrote: Benz2369 wrote: i know the diff ratio on a auto Jimny is different to a manual one yet to see an auto one that has a different ratio than a manual. i've contacted suzuki about different ratios for that model and they do not exist. they are all 4.09 to 1. if you are after another centre get one from a widetrack maruti, they are the same size and are 4.1 to 1 which will be fine. guess i'm wrong. have just head lots of people say they were different |
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| Author: | joeblow [ Sun Sep 26, 2010 10:23 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Is a 2003 jimny running gear same as SJ413? |
if you read the sales brochures they state they are different, this is where we got confused many years ago, but pulling them apart and enquiring with suzuki they aonly list one ratio for aussie models. |
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| Author: | Dr_Snapid [ Sun Sep 26, 2010 12:04 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Is a 2003 jimny running gear same as SJ413? |
thankyou guys for your great help so far. at least i can safely get a wrecked diff centre from a manual jimny. So does anyone know about the sj413 diff... is it the same? its just i heard the sj413 locker fits the jimny so im wondering if the diff centre is the same |
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| Author: | alien [ Sun Sep 26, 2010 2:17 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Is a 2003 jimny running gear same as SJ413? |
it may fit, but its a 3.7, not a 4.1 (or 4.09) |
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| Author: | Dr_Snapid [ Mon Sep 27, 2010 9:36 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Is a 2003 jimny running gear same as SJ413? |
hmm oh well. the wreckers have a jimny one. i have to decide if its worth doing the bearings in the old one to see if it helps or just replace it |
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| Author: | jimnyzpwn [ Sun Nov 21, 2010 4:42 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Is a 2003 jimny running gear same as SJ413? |
The rear ARB Air Locker from my 02' T2 Jimny fitted straight into my 1992 wt sierra if that helps anyone. The rear carriers & centres are interchangeable as are the rear crown-wheel & pinion's. |
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| Author: | joeblow [ Sun Nov 21, 2010 8:13 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Is a 2003 jimny running gear same as SJ413? |
jimnyzpwn wrote: The rear ARB Air Locker from my 02' T2 Jimny fitted straight into my 1992 wt sierra if that helps anyone. The rear carriers & centres are interchangeable as are the rear crown-wheel & pinion's.
same locker part number....................... |
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| Author: | zukmeista [ Sun Nov 21, 2010 11:57 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Is a 2003 jimny running gear same as SJ413? |
Do jimny diff gears fit sierras? |
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| Author: | BlueSuzy [ Mon Nov 22, 2010 1:17 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Is a 2003 jimny running gear same as SJ413? |
zukmeista wrote: Do jimny diff gears fit sierras?
Rears only. Fronts are 1L size High pinion. |
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| Author: | zukmeista [ Mon Nov 22, 2010 10:38 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Is a 2003 jimny running gear same as SJ413? |
so the gears will fit sierra centres? |
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| Author: | Dr_Snapid [ Fri Mar 23, 2012 6:45 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Is a 2003 jimny running gear same as SJ413? |
Just to follow this up. i bought a wrecked jimny diff from a manual. Definately works fine. Very slight difference in shock mounts (needed longer bolt) but same ratio. Now my front's shot too, but at least it isnt a problem most of the time. The front shaft can rattle a lot, thats all. |
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