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| Author: | sickzuk1 [ Wed Nov 17, 2010 4:44 am ] |
| Post subject: | Engine Turn off.. |
Ok so I was on my way to school this morning and my engine just randomly turned off.. It started a few seconds later but died again almost instantly.. SO... I am assuming that due to the fact that it will no longer start.. It was some water in the fuel? Idk why I cant start it anymore. I thought I was low on fuel but we put some more fuel in there and it still wont start... Any suggestions??? |
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| Author: | Zook_Fan [ Wed Nov 17, 2010 4:48 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Engine Turn off.. |
Fuel pump, accelerator pump and crap in the carby would all do that. Could be bad fuel but it definetly isn't the only option. |
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| Author: | sickzuk1 [ Wed Nov 17, 2010 4:49 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Engine Turn off.. |
Welll fuel pump is brand new. And the carby got reconditioned about 3 odd weeks ago. |
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| Author: | Zook_Fan [ Wed Nov 17, 2010 4:53 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Engine Turn off.. |
You could backfire it to try and clear the jets. Or drop the fuel out, clear the lines and try and start it. |
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| Author: | sickzuk1 [ Wed Nov 17, 2010 4:56 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Engine Turn off.. |
How do I make it backfire if it doesn't actually kick over? |
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| Author: | want33s [ Wed Nov 17, 2010 5:01 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Engine Turn off.. |
Check for spark at the plugs. |
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| Author: | Zook_Fan [ Wed Nov 17, 2010 5:02 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Engine Turn off.. |
Swap plugs 2 and 3. All it has to do is fire a couple of times not start. To go through a couple of tests do the following: Pull the fuel inlet hose off the carby and try to start it. If fuel comes out at a steady flow, your fuel pump is good. Put the hose back on the carby and take the hat off the carby. Accelerate the carby while looking down the throat. If you can see the fuel squirting down the throat your accelerator pump is good. If all is still good, backfire it a couple of times. Put the plugs back and see if it will run. If all of those do not work flush the fuel and put new stuff in there. |
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| Author: | JrZook [ Wed Nov 17, 2010 5:53 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Engine Turn off.. |
want33s wrote: Check for spark at the plugs.
Nice simple test you should just carry out first, before you go on to the rest of it. |
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| Author: | whincup [ Wed Nov 17, 2010 9:05 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Engine Turn off.. |
Zook_Fan wrote: Swap plugs 2 and 3. All it has to do is fire a couple of times not start.
it can still still run with the plugs reversed, albeit extremely rough, although if its not working now i doubt it will while plugs are reversed... give it a couple of good revs like this. i dont see how it makes a difference, but i was told by local mechanic to swap the leads at the distributor rather than on the plugs... never asked why, could have been personal preference... |
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| Author: | Zook_Fan [ Wed Nov 17, 2010 9:10 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Engine Turn off.. |
yes I know that it can run like that, two pistons will still be running right just the other two will be back firing. sickzuk1 said that it doesn't actually kick over so I was just stating that it didn't have to run |
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| Author: | sickzuk1 [ Wed Nov 17, 2010 11:22 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Engine Turn off.. |
Ummm no but my engine doesn't even fire???? |
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| Author: | Ben_Sierra [ Wed Nov 17, 2010 11:32 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Engine Turn off.. |
Do you have spark? |
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| Author: | zooky08 [ Wed Nov 17, 2010 12:02 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Engine Turn off.. |
sickzuk1 wrote: Ummm no but my engine doesn't even fire????
Does your starter motor kick over or do you mean it turns over but doesnt fire up? |
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| Author: | whincup [ Wed Nov 17, 2010 12:17 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Engine Turn off.. |
Zook_Fan wrote: yes I know that it can run like that, two pistons will still be running right just the other two will be back firing. sickzuk1 said that it doesn't actually kick over so I was just stating that it didn't have to run
oh, sorry, completely misread what you said in your first post... 
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| Author: | Zook_Fan [ Wed Nov 17, 2010 12:18 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Engine Turn off.. |
sickzuk1 wrote: Ummm no but my engine doesn't even fire????
Than like three other people in this thread I would go with spark... |
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| Author: | atari4x4 [ Wed Nov 17, 2010 12:24 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Engine Turn off.. |
have you got fuel in the tank? |
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| Author: | steak_knife [ Wed Nov 17, 2010 7:52 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Engine Turn off.. |
Have you turned the key??? Do you have dash light's? Does it do anything? |
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| Author: | sickzuk1 [ Wed Nov 17, 2010 8:08 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Engine Turn off.. |
Ok... Just tested and when I turn key I DO have dash lights. The tank is overly full, we thought thats what the problem was but it was ALOT fuller than we thought. Ummm I just tested for sparking at the spark plugs.. And the car started perfectly first go.. And the engine is running like it always does... So maybe it IS water? So overnight it had time to shift around etc and go back through the pipeline? Just a thought. |
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| Author: | Rockhopper [ Wed Nov 17, 2010 8:18 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Engine Turn off.. |
If it started when you tested for spark, I'll bet you have an ignition module problem. Sometimes the larger air gap that occurs when testing for spark is enough to kick a module back to life again. It might be ok again now, but it will die again. |
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| Author: | sickzuk1 [ Thu Nov 18, 2010 1:45 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Engine Turn off.. |
No I mean I hadn't even taken anything off... I just tested the engine to see if it turned on before I started testing and it turned on fine. |
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| Author: | sickzuk1 [ Thu Nov 18, 2010 2:46 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Engine Turn off.. |
I just drove it a bit away from the front door of the house and played with the revs for about 25 minutes and it is still running perfectly? Yet it only takes 6 or 7 minutes to drive to the place where it died twice? |
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| Author: | royce [ Thu Nov 18, 2010 2:48 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Engine Turn off.. |
so it still dies? if so when it dies, then check for spark, if there is none and it comes back later its a heat thing, probably the ignition module |
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| Author: | sickzuk1 [ Thu Nov 18, 2010 2:53 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Engine Turn off.. |
No it didn't die at all when it was just stationary and playing the revs. Nothing wrong with it at all. Did it for about 20 minutes with varying revs... I kind of tried to imitate the trip that it cuts out on. Yet no problem with it.. |
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| Author: | honks [ Thu Nov 18, 2010 7:12 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Engine Turn off.. |
i would go with the electronic module in the distributor i had an old dunnydore that done the same thing it woul go fine for 3 days then die while doing 100 on the highway it would start straight away then go good for another day or so then do the same thing this happened more and more regularly till it shat and would nt start anymore |
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| Author: | Zook_Fan [ Thu Nov 18, 2010 7:30 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Engine Turn off.. |
if when it dies it still has spark, I'd go with the fuel pump. |
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| Author: | shakes [ Thu Nov 18, 2010 8:08 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Engine Turn off.. |
honks wrote: i would go with the electronic module in the distributor i had an old dunnydore that done the same thing it woul go fine for 3 days then die while doing 100 on the highway it would start straight away then go good for another day or so then do the same thing this happened more and more regularly till it shat and would nt start anymore
I've had a couple of datsun L series dizzy's do this to me as well. pretty common and very much heat effected. |
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| Author: | sickzuk1 [ Mon Nov 29, 2010 11:05 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Engine Turn off.. |
shakes wrote: honks wrote: i would go with the electronic module in the distributor i had an old dunnydore that done the same thing it woul go fine for 3 days then die while doing 100 on the highway it would start straight away then go good for another day or so then do the same thing this happened more and more regularly till it shat and would nt start anymore I've had a couple of datsun L series dizzy's do this to me as well. pretty common and very much heat effected. Ok well I just got back from schoolies and gave Suzy a bit of a run in the back yard. And it is running perfectly again??? So.... I am going to assume that this is the problem? How do I go about fixing it? |
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| Author: | sickzuk1 [ Tue Nov 30, 2010 5:16 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Engine Turn off.. |
Bump??? |
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| Author: | whincup [ Tue Nov 30, 2010 8:36 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Engine Turn off.. |
new dizzy? or rebuild if its possible to do with those... |
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| Author: | dono1 [ Tue Nov 30, 2010 9:00 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Engine Turn off.. |
Have you put a cup of metho in the tank to get rid of water? Maybe take the plugs off one at a time and clean/ check clearances with feeler guages. Other than that check the fuel pump. Itmight not be getting enough pressure through under load.Mine does thes sometimes but then again my alternator is about to shit itself so there is nothing chargig the battery. |
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