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Author:  Bennyzarb [ Fri Feb 11, 2011 5:05 am ]
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Hi I have extended shackles hilux and comma shocks and 31s I want to get some 2 in lifted springs what are the best to get and what's this stuff about using rears in the front

Author:  31zook [ Fri Feb 11, 2011 5:23 am ]
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Old man emu, or rockcrawler rears. the front rock clawlers i had were terrible, but the rears flexed like no ones business :D

the rear springs are longer then the front so there is more room for them to move, it gives you a better ride and more travel out of your front end :D

get rid of your shackles, and just fit a body lift, this will clear the tyres no lift at all ;)

Author:  rpmwrx [ Fri Feb 11, 2011 5:25 am ]
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who stocks the rockcrawler springs?

Author:  Gwagensteve [ Fri Feb 11, 2011 5:50 am ]
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They're sold by 4WD1 or whatever the guys that distribute ranchos call themselves now.

Having bought Ranchos from them, I wouldn't trust their ability to understand which way up to install a leaf spring. They have NFI about suspension.

Steve.

Author:  rpmwrx [ Fri Feb 11, 2011 5:53 am ]
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Thanks Steve...

Author:  Gwagensteve [ Fri Feb 11, 2011 6:03 am ]
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PS if anyone thinks I'm just being a hater for the sake of it, I'll give you some context. I spoke to their sales manager at length about running Ranchos on my Gwagen. He recommended PN99009 front and rear, with the fronts upside down. when I asked "what if they don't valve properly" the answer was " they have 800% adjustability.... they'll work" I replied "I want to get them dynoed to prove they will work" and his reply was "if you dyno one, you own it"

I bought one, and dynoed it, and the result was that A) Rancho's don't work upside down, and even right way up, were 20% too soft for the rear, and waaay to soft to be safe on the front.

Had I bought all four and fitted them, my car would have been undrivable.

I rang them to tell them that they should know their shocks didn't work upside down. They weren't interested

Not worth the risk IMHO.

Steve.

Author:  rpmwrx [ Fri Feb 11, 2011 6:20 am ]
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Do you feel better now you have that off your chest Steve? haha...

Author:  Gwagensteve [ Fri Feb 11, 2011 6:25 am ]
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Ahhh, much better :D

Steve.

Author:  atari4x4 [ Fri Feb 11, 2011 6:25 am ]
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Author:  Damo [ Fri Feb 11, 2011 7:02 am ]
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IMO Ranchos are over rated and over priced to start with.

Author:  Ben_Sierra [ Fri Feb 11, 2011 7:02 am ]
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^^ Who would be buying adjustable ranchos for a stock, unlifted vehicle anyway?? Seriously?? What a wanker...

Author:  Gwagensteve [ Fri Feb 11, 2011 7:07 am ]
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atari4x4 wrote:
Kirk@4wd1 is a cocksmoker IMO


Atari FTW :D

Steve.

Author:  Bennyzarb [ Fri Feb 11, 2011 7:19 am ]
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What if I keep my shackles and get an old man emu 2in lift springs
Should I get two pares of rears ?

Author:  Gwagensteve [ Fri Feb 11, 2011 7:24 am ]
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There's no real advantage in extended shackles with stock length springs - more importantly, they screw up your caster, so unless you run caster wedges, your steering gets messed up.

OME Springs are good - I run them and it's all I would recommend.

As for RUF, It's pretty involved. This is a good thread. If you can't fabricate and weld, it's not really for you. This thread has some good info.

http://www.auszookers.com/index.php?nam ... ic&t=18955

Steve.

Author:  lukezuka [ Fri Feb 11, 2011 9:36 am ]
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can anyone help me lift my coliy at all i find it is really expensive to get a mechanic to do it

Author:  LAY80N [ Fri Feb 11, 2011 9:47 am ]
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lukezuka wrote:
can anyone help me lift my coliy at all i find it is really expensive to get a mechanic to do it



Start a new thread in Chit Chat asking for help, offer a BBQ and some beers.

Layto....

Author:  JrZook [ Fri Feb 11, 2011 12:52 pm ]
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Gwagensteve wrote:
They're sold by 4WD1 or whatever the guys that distribute ranchos call themselves now.

Having bought Ranchos from them, I wouldn't trust their ability to understand which way up to install a leaf spring. They have NFI about suspension.

Steve.


Your not the only one Steve! Those bloke are bloody fustrating to have a descent technical convo with. I rang them up asking for a shock to suit my zuk. I gave them the compressed minimum length (the most critical measurement) as well as an extended to try and match up as close as possible. The bloke I was talking to wasn't interested in these measurements he wanted to know what lift I have and that was it. Told him roughly 2 inch OME springs. He gave me the part number and shock details. Compressed length was like 40mm too long, I told him that and his solution was a 50mm bumpstop spacer. Doing this would have given me 10mm max between the bumps and the axles with this spring setup.

Good awesome quality advice from the experts.............. :roll:

Also the finish on these shocks is pretty poor for the amount you pay. Flatmate just got a few new 9000's. The paint is thin and rust is starting to show, especially around the eye welds. The welds themselves look like sticker welds stuck on....

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