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matt91112011
Joined: Fri Feb 11, 2011 9:05 am Posts: 241 Location: Eltham, Victoria
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Hi guys,
I want to insure my vehicle to a much higher value. But will they insure my car without and engineers certificate?
I've got the following mods.
2" body lift
3" suspension lift
Snorkel
ARB modified winch bar (for body lift)
Hid headlights
Hid spotlights
Roof racks
15x7 -13 offset rims
31x10.5 tyres
Dual batteries
Will they insure my parts as per what I payed?
I think that's it.
Cheers
Matty
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Rusho

Tubby Elfsdong
Joined: Sun Aug 02, 2009 11:30 pm Posts: 6501 Location: Northside, Brisbane
Vehicle: Coily Sierra
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Depends who you go with. Shannon's probably will but you might pay a but extra for your premium.
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mnemonix

az supporter
Joined: Sun Aug 16, 2009 11:30 pm Posts: 1409 Location: Newcastle NSW
Vehicle: '96 LWB trayback
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You can attempt to negotiate on an agreed value (replacement value) but generally your premium will be sky high making it a worthless exercise on something as generic as a zook.
ie: Replacement value for my sierra is around $20k. The maximum agreed value I could get was $11k for a cost of $3k/year, and that was if I removed the supercharger only.
This is an engineered vehicle.
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squibby
Joined: Wed May 11, 2011 3:13 am Posts: 645 Location: Brisbane
Vehicle: On the lookout
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matt91112011 wrote: Hi guys,
I want to insure my vehicle to a much higher value. But will they insure my car without and engineers certificate? Matty
YES. Whether the vehicle is road worthy or not does not concern insurance. You have to declare the modifications to be insured for them. The wheels can be ready to fall off, you're still insured, end of.
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mnemonix

az supporter
Joined: Sun Aug 16, 2009 11:30 pm Posts: 1409 Location: Newcastle NSW
Vehicle: '96 LWB trayback
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squibby wrote: YES. Whether the vehicle is road worthy or not does not concern insurance. You have to declare the modifications to be insured for them. The wheels can be ready to fall off, you're still insured, end of.
You sir, are an idiot.
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Microwire
Joined: Tue Oct 12, 2010 12:40 am Posts: 543 Location: Casula
Vehicle: Vitara 90'
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Just keep it in mind that when you are paying your premium you might end up paying a stupid amount per yaer in which if you just put that money in the bank you could replace all those bits.
ie, to full comprehensive mine it was going to be about $3000 per year which is pretty dumb considdering I only paid $3k for it and haven't spent much on it apart from time.
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Fatzook

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Joined: Sat Oct 27, 2007 11:30 pm Posts: 14977 Location: The Hills
Vehicle: Vitara, NGV
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mnemonix wrote: squibby wrote: YES. Whether the vehicle is road worthy or not does not concern insurance. You have to declare the modifications to be insured for them. The wheels can be ready to fall off, you're still insured, end of.
You sir, are an idiot.
X2. Knob chomper!
To legally hold an Engineering certificate, your vehicle must be maintained in a RWC condition; as it was when inspected for said eng cert.
You as the owner/ operator have a duty of care to ensure that your vehicle is safe to be driven. Insurance companies rutinely knock back claims for things like bald tires, poorly maintained brakes etc. Illegal mods is one of their biggest scape goats of all time. So any insurance company that is willing to insure the above vehicle, will do so only after requesting to see the relevant mod plates and paperwork denoting their compliance with the law.
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matt91112011
Joined: Fri Feb 11, 2011 9:05 am Posts: 241 Location: Eltham, Victoria
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Hmm...how hard is it to get a mod plate for my gear in Vic? I know the cars safe.
Cheers
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Fatzook

az supporter
Joined: Sat Oct 27, 2007 11:30 pm Posts: 14977 Location: The Hills
Vehicle: Vitara, NGV
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matt91112011 wrote: Hmm...how hard is it to get a mod plate for my gear in Vic? I know the cars safe.
Cheers
Call Vic roads and get hold of one of their approved engineers. They will tell you what can and can't be done legally.
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matt91112011
Joined: Fri Feb 11, 2011 9:05 am Posts: 241 Location: Eltham, Victoria
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lump_a_charcoal

az supporter
Joined: Wed Feb 28, 2007 10:30 pm Posts: 4454 Location: Botany, NSW
Vehicle: MY2019 Jimny
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squibby wrote: matt91112011 wrote: Hi guys,
I want to insure my vehicle to a much higher value. But will they insure my car without and engineers certificate? Matty YES. Whether the vehicle is road worthy or not does not concern insurance. You have to declare the modifications to be insured for them. The wheels can be ready to fall off, you're still insured, end of.
Wow - Dumbest thing I have heard in a long time, aside from shanej.
You realise that if you insurer finds out your car is defective, they can cancel your insurance, or reject a claim?
Think, then post, in that order.
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remydog05
Joined: Sun Nov 23, 2008 10:30 pm Posts: 1260 Location: Vic
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Hey mat,
Do a search in google for Vicroad approved engineers.
Call a few and talk to them about what you have and what they will approve.
Dont hide the truth, tell them exactly what you've got otherwise you will run into trouble when the paperwork is done.
General rule I have found in Vic is most engineers will not touch anything over 4inchs of total lift. EG Body, Spring, Tyre.
But as said you need to speak to them and get someone who will work with you. Also make sure you ask the same questions to each as you will get different answers if you don't speak the same scenario to them.
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tonyevans

az supporter
Joined: Sun Jan 16, 2011 11:18 pm Posts: 1998 Location: Lightning Ridge NSW
Vehicle: SJ40 - LJ50 - LJ50V - Vitara
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mnemonix wrote: squibby wrote: YES. Whether the vehicle is road worthy or not does not concern insurance. You have to declare the modifications to be insured for them. The wheels can be ready to fall off, you're still insured, end of.
You sir, are an idiot.
No he is not - That statement is to stupid to be made by a simple idiot 
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stocker
Joined: Wed Dec 08, 2010 7:16 am Posts: 941 Location: Shidoni!
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tonyevans wrote: mnemonix wrote: squibby wrote: YES. Whether the vehicle is road worthy or not does not concern insurance. You have to declare the modifications to be insured for them. The wheels can be ready to fall off, you're still insured, end of.
You sir, are an idiot. No he is not - That statement is to stupid to be made by a simple idiot 
omfg... i almost had heart failure... here i was thinking someone defending him??? and then POW Right in the kisser
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matt91112011
Joined: Fri Feb 11, 2011 9:05 am Posts: 241 Location: Eltham, Victoria
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remydog05 wrote: Hey mat,
Do a search in google for Vicroad approved engineers.
Call a few and talk to them about what you have and what they will approve.
Dont hide the truth, tell them exactly what you've got otherwise you will run into trouble when the paperwork is done.
General rule I have found in Vic is most engineers will not touch anything over 4inchs of total lift. EG Body, Spring, Tyre.
But as said you need to speak to them and get someone who will work with you. Also make sure you ask the same questions to each as you will get different answers if you don't speak the same scenario to them.
I've got like 6-7" of lift including tyres, hmm... this could be a problem
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stocker
Joined: Wed Dec 08, 2010 7:16 am Posts: 941 Location: Shidoni!
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If its built right, and still conforms to ADR's theres no reason why 6-7inches of lift couldn't be approved.... but i highly doubt that yours conforms to ADR's 
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