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christover1

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Joined: Tue Jul 15, 2008 11:30 pm Posts: 8203 Location: Melbourne
Vehicle: Pajero 91 NH 3.0 SWB
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 Posted: Wed Sep 21, 2011 1:07 pm |
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Vitara-Dave wrote: Talking of stronger struts... look at these mother fu......!!!    Just arrived, will be listing them later... Beauties! :clap:
No other details yet, found this on my Bits4Vits thread
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atari4x4

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Joined: Mon Dec 11, 2006 10:30 pm Posts: 34842 Location: East Radelayed
Vehicle: SV420+SV620 Vitara's
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 Posted: Wed Sep 21, 2011 1:08 pm |
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fark yeah 
_________________ You're just hating because you don't understand
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christover1

az supporter
Joined: Tue Jul 15, 2008 11:30 pm Posts: 8203 Location: Melbourne
Vehicle: Pajero 91 NH 3.0 SWB
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 Posted: Wed Sep 21, 2011 1:11 pm |
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I assume they are Vits Struts, as he posted them on my build thread.
Be interested to see prices, and lengths etc
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Chop

az supporter
Joined: Sat Aug 12, 2006 11:30 pm Posts: 6456 Location: Radelaide ofcourse!
Vehicle: Suzuki GV 03/ 2010 DDIS NGV
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 Posted: Wed Sep 21, 2011 1:35 pm |
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$$$$$
if those prices i found on u.s sites are anything to go by, bits4vits will be dearer.
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Suzuki's are like Mogwai's, they multiply!
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christover1

az supporter
Joined: Tue Jul 15, 2008 11:30 pm Posts: 8203 Location: Melbourne
Vehicle: Pajero 91 NH 3.0 SWB
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 Posted: Wed Sep 21, 2011 9:56 pm |
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I reckon those who can afford them will buy them just on the wow factor 
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vitzookman
Joined: Wed Feb 16, 2011 6:14 am Posts: 347 Location: Bris
Vehicle: 2001 XL7
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Sexy  Any details?
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skyman
Joined: Wed Nov 17, 2010 2:06 pm Posts: 1328 Location: Yakima, wa (us)
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 Posted: Thu Sep 22, 2011 6:19 am |
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Do these guys have alot more travel than stock? They look beefy.
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christover1

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Joined: Tue Jul 15, 2008 11:30 pm Posts: 8203 Location: Melbourne
Vehicle: Pajero 91 NH 3.0 SWB
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 Posted: Thu Sep 22, 2011 6:38 am |
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skyman wrote: Do these guys have alot more travel than stock? They look beefy.
I haven't found anything like measurements anywhere.
But Bits4Vits will measure them up if I ask nicely.
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got_bar_work
Joined: Sat May 15, 2010 8:30 pm Posts: 2214 Location: Brisbane
Vehicle: SQ625
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 Posted: Thu Sep 22, 2011 7:15 am |
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I think they are 40 mm longer
They are the shit. The rod is 2x as thick as normal struts
All the zukiworld race cars are running them and love them
They recon the car handles so much better with them
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shakes
Joined: Sat Apr 10, 2010 11:30 pm Posts: 4895 Location: Northcote
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I ran bilsteins on my rangi and for the couple of trips I went on it was sensational. A mates defender had them, and they were super plush on road ride, didn't fade on corrigations like my OME's did in the patrol, and had good travel.
I also ran them in my drift/track ae71 corolla.... for that I rate them Highly!!!
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atari4x4

az supporter
Joined: Mon Dec 11, 2006 10:30 pm Posts: 34842 Location: East Radelayed
Vehicle: SV420+SV620 Vitara's
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 Posted: Thu Sep 22, 2011 7:59 am |
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i think i know what struts i'm buying next. 
_________________ You're just hating because you don't understand
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royce

omnipotent being
Joined: Sun Jun 11, 2006 11:30 pm Posts: 17216 Location: Pluto
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atari4x4 wrote: i think i know what struts i'm buying next. 
x2, no way I am shelling out for OME again and I dunno about Dobinsons for durability just yet
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christover1

az supporter
Joined: Tue Jul 15, 2008 11:30 pm Posts: 8203 Location: Melbourne
Vehicle: Pajero 91 NH 3.0 SWB
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royce wrote: atari4x4 wrote: i think i know what struts i'm buying next.  x2, no way I am shelling out for OME again and I dunno about Dobinsons for durability just yet
I don't mind the look of the rear shocks that match them.
Probably on my future wish list.
But I let others try them first 
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atari4x4

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Joined: Mon Dec 11, 2006 10:30 pm Posts: 34842 Location: East Radelayed
Vehicle: SV420+SV620 Vitara's
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i'm going to do my best to beat the shit out of my OME's next weekend.
_________________ You're just hating because you don't understand
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christover1

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Joined: Tue Jul 15, 2008 11:30 pm Posts: 8203 Location: Melbourne
Vehicle: Pajero 91 NH 3.0 SWB
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atari4x4 wrote: i'm going to do my best to beat the shit out of my OME's next weekend.
I still got one good one,
only one died, others not too bad.
4wd action relocated/postponed the trip to undefined time,
so I could be a show up at Beachport,
probably less wankers than the 4wd action trip  )
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atari4x4

az supporter
Joined: Mon Dec 11, 2006 10:30 pm Posts: 34842 Location: East Radelayed
Vehicle: SV420+SV620 Vitara's
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 Posted: Thu Sep 22, 2011 8:10 am |
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you've got a spot if you want to head over?
_________________ You're just hating because you don't understand
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matt91112011
Joined: Fri Feb 11, 2011 9:05 am Posts: 241 Location: Eltham, Victoria
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 Posted: Thu Sep 22, 2011 8:12 am |
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They look so so so good, I wish I knew abuot them about 2 months ago when I my Dobinsons. But so far I must admit my Dobinsons have been freakin awesome! They are so comfortable, the rides and handles like it never has before.
Bilsteins look very pretty though
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TryHard
Joined: Thu May 13, 2010 1:49 am Posts: 1041 Location: Perth
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matt91112011 wrote: They look so so so good, I wish I knew abuot them about 2 months ago when I my Dobinsons. But so far I must admit my Dobinsons have been freakin awesome! They are so comfortable, the rides and handles like it never has before.
Bilsteins look very pretty though i have not herd 1 bad thing about Bilsteins very good shock and not over priced
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skyman
Joined: Wed Nov 17, 2010 2:06 pm Posts: 1328 Location: Yakima, wa (us)
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I have heard very very good reviews on the Bilstein 5100/5160 series shocks, as a matter of fact I don't think I have seen much negative press on any bilsteins at all.
I think they are going to be my next set. I love the adjustably of the ranchos, but if they ride good on ad off road, I WBF getting and adjusting them 
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Gwagensteve
Joined: Thu Feb 26, 2009 10:30 pm Posts: 13007 Location: Melbourne
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I had a hunch about these and after having a look at the Bilstein website, it turns out I'm right -
They are not quite what they appear to be. The "shaft" that looks about 2" thick isn't the shaft at all. (If it was, there's be no room for any piston/oil in the shock body. These are "upside down" struts. The 07 STi was AFAIK the first application of these from an OEM. The "shaft" is kind of the shock body.
I don't doubt they are of very high quality, possibly higher quality than anything else available, but these are an OEM replacement type of part - they're not a race part.
Steve
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christover1

az supporter
Joined: Tue Jul 15, 2008 11:30 pm Posts: 8203 Location: Melbourne
Vehicle: Pajero 91 NH 3.0 SWB
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 Posted: Thu Sep 22, 2011 10:40 am |
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Gwagensteve wrote: The "shaft" that looks about 2" thick isn't the shaft at all. (If it was, there's be no room for any piston/oil in the shock body. These are "upside down" struts. The 07 STi was AFAIK the first application of these from an OEM. The "shaft" is kind of the shock body. Steve
I can see that now you pointed it out.
That explains the shape at the top.
Almost a bit sneaky.
But sometimes we trick ourselves.
My Dobinsons are working great, hopefully pass the test of time
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Gwagensteve
Joined: Thu Feb 26, 2009 10:30 pm Posts: 13007 Location: Melbourne
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 Posted: Thu Sep 22, 2011 10:58 am |
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There's nothing sneaky about it - it's done to reduce sprung weight in a sports car application AFAIK, and it removes load from the shaft. This is undoubtedly a good thing, but it doesn't mean they are "bombproof" - far from it, in fact, because the piston runs directly on the "shaft" of the strut, even a small dent will render the strut useless as it will jam.
A monotube strut is easier to make "upside down" as the knuckle mounts can be welded to the shroud rather than the shock body where it might result oin binding of the piston.
You can see the difference (and the real location of piston shaft) in this diagram

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