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matt91112011
Joined: Fri Feb 11, 2011 9:05 am Posts: 241 Location: Eltham, Victoria
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Hi guys,
I've read the tech article. Good info but still don't entirely get it.
Im about to buy a GME TX3100, because it's really small and I have no idea where I'm going to fit one. I'm also told that the quality of the unit doesn't matter so much as the aerials.
I'm looking on http://www.prestigecom.net.au for my aerial.
I know that I need two different types. I'm going to mount them on the bullbar.
Could someone pick the two aerials for me. I don't know how much I actually need to spend per aerial, but let's so no more than $150 per aerial unless I really need too.
Thanks guys
Matty
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steak_knife

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Joined: Fri May 22, 2009 11:30 pm Posts: 21335 Location: Smart Ass Island
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That one!!!!! 
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steak_knife

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Joined: Fri May 22, 2009 11:30 pm Posts: 21335 Location: Smart Ass Island
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 Posted: Fri Sep 30, 2011 9:24 pm |
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royce

omnipotent being
Joined: Sun Jun 11, 2006 11:30 pm Posts: 17216 Location: Pluto
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 Posted: Fri Sep 30, 2011 9:48 pm |
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Why do you think you need 2 antennas?
Stekky's is a good choice, the AE409L is also a good one
Honestly the theory of antenna gain and so on means little in a car cause there are so many other effects, any decent one well fitted will get you all the range youll want
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Scrawny

I live here!
Joined: Tue Jan 29, 2008 10:30 pm Posts: 10528 Location: Brissie
Vehicle: Popemobile
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steak_knife wrote: http://www.prestigecom.net.au/index.php?main_page=product_info&cPath=337&products_id=97 I have & love that one, awesome range on the h/way & nice clear close up..................& spring mounted!!!!!! 
Got one of these too, good all rounder. Good price too!
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Gwagensteve
Joined: Thu Feb 26, 2009 10:30 pm Posts: 13007 Location: Melbourne
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 Posted: Fri Sep 30, 2011 11:46 pm |
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I've spent a fortune on UHF antennas over the years and broken them all. You're only talking car to car - in most cases you could stick you head out the window and yell, and if convoy procedure works you never don't need to use a radio at all.
I'd get he cheapest steel whip you can find on a spring base. Something like a GME AE4017 on a GME AS001. Use a spring base so if you really whack it on something if bends out of the way. It will screw with your SWR but you'll have better SWR than a broken antenna
1/2 the guys in the bush these days have handhelds so it's not hard to have more performance than that. A huge 9dB setup is just a vulnerable PITA.
Steve.
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Scrawny

I live here!
Joined: Tue Jan 29, 2008 10:30 pm Posts: 10528 Location: Brissie
Vehicle: Popemobile
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zooky08

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Joined: Fri Nov 27, 2009 10:30 pm Posts: 3426 Location: imbil/gympie. qld
Vehicle: 03 Jimny
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I don't like the Gme one that comes with the tx3100.
Doesn't pick much up and I bent kt on it's first trip out
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Moag

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Joined: Thu Mar 04, 2010 10:30 pm Posts: 411 Location: Kununurra WA ^ Top End
Vehicle: 2001 Jimny M13A
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I just ordered a GME TX3100 UHF and was tossing up between
a flexy one on the roof
and some whiskers for the bull bar like this to make it easy to judge the hight of the expensive lump of glass on my roof.
Ended up going with this.....
What do you think?
I went for ZCG because there're just up the road from were i was born,
and got a custom AM/FM antenna from them in the early 80s when he was a back yard shop. The product was perfection and He's customer service was awesome back then, so can't help myself.
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alien
Joined: Wed Mar 24, 2010 10:30 pm Posts: 16343 Location: Perth
Vehicle: '92 Sierra, 1.6efi, SPOA, 31s.
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what steve said is right IMO - i had an in-car CB and antenna on the front bar years ago, but it was cumbersome compared to my handheld...
my handheld is just a GME TX680 (3 watt) - but its served me very well. And i cna get out of the car and keep talking on it which is very handy for spotting people from a distance etc.
A lot of people don't like the battery thing with handhelds, but on a recent trip down south with some mates we had radios between cars - the others were using cheaper uniden 2watt radios that run on 3 AA batteries - their batteries died after around 2hrs of chatting, the replacement batteries have seen about another 3hrs chatting and have dropped to 3/4 already... my GME with its rechargable battery lasted that whole time and still was reading as "full power" when i got home.
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Gwagensteve
Joined: Thu Feb 26, 2009 10:30 pm Posts: 13007 Location: Melbourne
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ZCG are very good, and those elevated feed bases are great. However, fibreglass whip antennas I find pretty vulnerable, and the spring weighting on the elevated feed base really needs to be suited to the length/weight of the whip used.
Lots of cop cars use elevated feed bases with tiny steel 1/4 wave whips on them so they aren't vulnerable.
I don't like gutter mounts at all - they just don't last for the driving we do.
Steve.
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pyrohamish
Joined: Wed May 27, 2009 11:30 pm Posts: 331 Location: Fremantle, WA
Vehicle: '85 Sierra LWB Ute, Lkd 33's
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Scrawny

I live here!
Joined: Tue Jan 29, 2008 10:30 pm Posts: 10528 Location: Brissie
Vehicle: Popemobile
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Gwagensteve wrote: I don't like gutter mounts at all - they just don't last for the driving we do.
Certainly not ideal for 4wd's, I agree, but works well for vans that only do metro driving and lack any other decent mounting points.
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MacDaddy

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Joined: Thu Mar 26, 2009 10:30 pm Posts: 10453 Location: Perth, Australia
Vehicle: Jeep
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I got one of these -
http://www.prestigecom.net.au/index.php ... ts_id=2222
It has an elevated feed, ground independent base, and has 2 x Antenna's, a stubbie 3db, about 15cm long, for short range or hilly area's, and a taller 6.6db, 90cm, for longer distance on flat ground/highways... its the best off both, works well for me... 
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matt91112011
Joined: Fri Feb 11, 2011 9:05 am Posts: 241 Location: Eltham, Victoria
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Scrawny

I live here!
Joined: Tue Jan 29, 2008 10:30 pm Posts: 10528 Location: Brissie
Vehicle: Popemobile
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You can replace the top half if you do end up breaking it off.
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Rusho

Tubby Elfsdong
Joined: Sun Aug 02, 2009 11:30 pm Posts: 6501 Location: Northside, Brisbane
Vehicle: Coily Sierra
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Moph

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Joined: Sat May 19, 2007 11:30 pm Posts: 2535 Location: Perth
Vehicle: 93 Sierra
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matt91112011
Joined: Fri Feb 11, 2011 9:05 am Posts: 241 Location: Eltham, Victoria
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Moph

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Joined: Sat May 19, 2007 11:30 pm Posts: 2535 Location: Perth
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They were some seriously nasty corrugations ... hence the photo 
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bakerboy
Joined: Sun Oct 25, 2009 10:30 pm Posts: 2291 Location: Perth
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I'm running the same one as macbear, albeit a Benelec branded unit, and it's fine, normally chuck a longer 6db on when I head up to lano. Can't comment on range as a comparison between handhelds and in car as I have an unfair advantage 
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