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mudzookacoatsy
Joined: Fri Jul 31, 2009 11:30 pm Posts: 380 Location: ipswich
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Ok so like it says. I've got 6.5s and 31, how far out would my speedo be ?
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lump_a_charcoal

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Joined: Wed Feb 28, 2007 10:30 pm Posts: 4454 Location: Botany, NSW
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 Posted: Sat Oct 22, 2011 8:46 pm |
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Compare with a GPS?
I think from memory, about 15%?
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denty802
Joined: Mon Apr 11, 2011 2:39 am Posts: 150 Location: colac vic
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the 6.5's wouldnt affect the speedo would it?
im curious on this too as i've got 31's and have 6.5s coming
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mudzookacoatsy
Joined: Fri Jul 31, 2009 11:30 pm Posts: 380 Location: ipswich
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 Posted: Sat Oct 22, 2011 8:51 pm |
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Yeh it does cos ya speedo drive goes in to ya tcase and tha gears drop the gearing over the lot hi 4hi and Low
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lump_a_charcoal

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Joined: Wed Feb 28, 2007 10:30 pm Posts: 4454 Location: Botany, NSW
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 Posted: Sat Oct 22, 2011 8:54 pm |
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What diff ratios do you have?
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suzukikid
Joined: Sun Jan 14, 2007 10:30 pm Posts: 2803 Location: Melton Victoria!
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in mine if ya doin 85 its 100...... 50 is 60.....
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mudzookacoatsy
Joined: Fri Jul 31, 2009 11:30 pm Posts: 380 Location: ipswich
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Standed diffs
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lump_a_charcoal

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mudzookacoatsy
Joined: Fri Jul 31, 2009 11:30 pm Posts: 380 Location: ipswich
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 Posted: Sat Oct 22, 2011 9:08 pm |
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Wt
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shep
Joined: Thu Mar 29, 2007 11:30 pm Posts: 14498 Location: Here there everywhere
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mudzookacoatsy wrote: Yeh it does cos ya speedo drive goes in to ya tcase and tha gears drop the gearing over the lot hi 4hi and Low
nope. transfer gears don't affect speedo only diff gears affect speedo 
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mudzookacoatsy
Joined: Fri Jul 31, 2009 11:30 pm Posts: 380 Location: ipswich
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 Posted: Sat Oct 22, 2011 9:14 pm |
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How would that work the. With tha gears droping it done so low ??
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SierraDan

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Joined: Fri Feb 04, 2011 10:55 pm Posts: 9348 Location: Newcastle
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mudzookacoatsy wrote: How would that work the. With tha gears droping it done so low ??
The worm gear is still the same.
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mudzookacoatsy
Joined: Fri Jul 31, 2009 11:30 pm Posts: 380 Location: ipswich
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 Posted: Sat Oct 22, 2011 9:28 pm |
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Oh ok so really it's just my tyres that have put it out
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SierraDan

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Yep, tyres and diff gears are what put it out.
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hutch

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Joined: Sun Nov 30, 2008 10:30 pm Posts: 1213 Location: SW Bris
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suzukikid wrote: in mine if ya doin 85 its 100...... 50 is 60.....
x2 same as me, checked against GPS
apparently High range rduction is 11%
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hutch

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SierraDan wrote: Yep, tyres and diff gears are what put it out.
bahhaaaa!
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hutch

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shep wrote: mudzookacoatsy wrote: Yeh it does cos ya speedo drive goes in to ya tcase and tha gears drop the gearing over the lot hi 4hi and Low nope. transfer gears don't affect speedo only diff gears affect speedo 
the speedo cable is mounted to the transfer case not the diffs.
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hutch

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Joined: Sun Nov 30, 2008 10:30 pm Posts: 1213 Location: SW Bris
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have a look through here and you will see the difference in gear sizes between old and new. The high range is the big one. often you have to grind the transfer case back so the gears can actually fit in.
http://www.trail-gear.com/pdf/suzuk-tcase.pdf
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shep
Joined: Thu Mar 29, 2007 11:30 pm Posts: 14498 Location: Here there everywhere
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hutch wrote: shep wrote: mudzookacoatsy wrote: Yeh it does cos ya speedo drive goes in to ya tcase and tha gears drop the gearing over the lot hi 4hi and Low nope. transfer gears don't affect speedo only diff gears affect speedo  the speedo cable is mounted to the transfer case not the diffs.
so, are you saying that i am wrong?
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mudzookacoatsy
Joined: Fri Jul 31, 2009 11:30 pm Posts: 380 Location: ipswich
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Cool thanks for all ya help guys
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shep
Joined: Thu Mar 29, 2007 11:30 pm Posts: 14498 Location: Here there everywhere
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mudzookacoatsy wrote: Cool thanks for all ya help guys
so which do ya believe?
trans gears change speedo or don't change speedo?
i am just curious.
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hutch

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Joined: Sun Nov 30, 2008 10:30 pm Posts: 1213 Location: SW Bris
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shep wrote: mudzookacoatsy wrote: Cool thanks for all ya help guys so which do ya believe? trans gears change speedo or don't change speedo? i am just curious.
put ya car up on blocks.. remove the tail shaft then put it in gear and rev it... That will tell ya. 
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hutch

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Joined: Sun Nov 30, 2008 10:30 pm Posts: 1213 Location: SW Bris
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shep wrote: hutch wrote: shep wrote: mudzookacoatsy wrote: Yeh it does cos ya speedo drive goes in to ya tcase and tha gears drop the gearing over the lot hi 4hi and Low nope. transfer gears don't affect speedo only diff gears affect speedo  the speedo cable is mounted to the transfer case not the diffs. so, are you saying that i am wrong?
yep
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JrZook
Joined: Tue Aug 08, 2006 11:30 pm Posts: 5517 Location: Holland Park
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hutch wrote: shep wrote: hutch wrote: shep wrote: mudzookacoatsy wrote: Yeh it does cos ya speedo drive goes in to ya tcase and tha gears drop the gearing over the lot hi 4hi and Low nope. transfer gears don't affect speedo only diff gears affect speedo  the speedo cable is mounted to the transfer case not the diffs. so, are you saying that i am wrong? yep
Speedo cable is mounted to the tcase correct. It's driven off the tcase output shaft which is directly connected to the diffs. Thus any tcase reduction is "up stream" from where the speedo pickup is, hence reduction gears don't do a thing to the speedo
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atari4x4

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hutch wrote: shep wrote: hutch wrote: shep wrote: mudzookacoatsy wrote: Yeh it does cos ya speedo drive goes in to ya tcase and tha gears drop the gearing over the lot hi 4hi and Low nope. transfer gears don't affect speedo only diff gears affect speedo  the speedo cable is mounted to the transfer case not the diffs. so, are you saying that i am wrong? yep
how does it feel to be wrong? 
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shep
Joined: Thu Mar 29, 2007 11:30 pm Posts: 14498 Location: Here there everywhere
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atari4x4 wrote: hutch wrote: shep wrote: hutch wrote: shep wrote: mudzookacoatsy wrote: Yeh it does cos ya speedo drive goes in to ya tcase and tha gears drop the gearing over the lot hi 4hi and Low nope. transfer gears don't affect speedo only diff gears affect speedo  the speedo cable is mounted to the transfer case not the diffs. so, are you saying that i am wrong? yep how does it feel to be wrong? 
ahhh but i am not wrong 
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shep
Joined: Thu Mar 29, 2007 11:30 pm Posts: 14498 Location: Here there everywhere
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tell me how the output shafts speed is made different to road speed.
or to put it another way what is inbetween the tyre contact patch and the transfer output shaft. 
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JrZook
Joined: Tue Aug 08, 2006 11:30 pm Posts: 5517 Location: Holland Park
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MART
Joined: Thu Apr 26, 2007 11:30 pm Posts: 282 Location: Sydney
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Shep is right , tyres and diff ratios are the only way to affect speedo , on a sierra transfer , put it in gear with tail shaft of and rev , this is only going to show the gearbox and transfer ratio verse speedo indication.
The speedo is gear driven on a sierra , so the only way to alter this is by changing the tyre diameter or changing diff gearing , any other way is wrong , wrong , wrong , Cheers Paul.
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skyman
Joined: Wed Nov 17, 2010 2:06 pm Posts: 1328 Location: Yakima, wa (us)
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Just to confirm from the outside Shep is on the money. it is pretty much common knowledge here that the transfer gears do not affect the speedo reading, only tires and diffs will.
The speedo function is based on the RPM of the transfer output. Anything past the transfer case will throw it out, anything in front of the transfer will not.
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