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Author:  agrajagzz9 [ Wed Nov 09, 2011 1:12 pm ]
Post subject:  Questions - Buying a Jimny
Hey people

I'm Adam from Townsville. I'm looking to buy my first car and I'm liking the Jimny. Currently I ride my bike most places and intend to keep doing so, the Jimny would be for longer trips around town and for camping and 4wd trips. A few mods I plan on doing are bull bar, 2" ? suspension lift, larger tyres, uhf, snorkel and roof rack. I would also love to do the conversion to m18a engine eventually.

I'm looking at a couple of cars in Brisbane at the moment.

05 "Z-Series" Jimny, 206,000km, $7,900
It has tow bar and roof bars
new clutch, o2 sensor, battery

04 JLX Jimny, 165,000km, $10,000
ARB Bull bar, OME 2" lift and steering damper, snorkel, custom rims

I'm leaning towards the first one, mainly because it is the 05 model with the VVT engine. From what I gather, this engine runs much better and is easier to upgrade to m18a. Is this correct? Not really bothered by high k's as I will probably do the conversion at first signs of serious engine trouble.

What exactly is the "Z Series"? Is that a new badge introduced in 05? is this different to JLX or just another name?

Since the car is in Brisbane, I need to get a friend to check it out and maybe pick it up. A couple of things to check for I've gathered from other threads:
"Death Wobble"
Rust in Jack compartment/ muffler/bonnet

Anything else to add?

Thanks

Adam
Author:  atari4x4 [ Wed Nov 09, 2011 1:29 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Questions - Buying a Jimny
welcome to AZ, all our operators are currently busy, please hold, one of the wobble techs* will be with you soon.





*jimny owner
Author:  BlueSuzy [ Wed Nov 09, 2011 11:39 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Questions - Buying a Jimny
I think the pre vvt would be easier to swap the m18 to, as the 1.8 wont have vvt. vvt may give you tiny better fuel economy

Jimnys do have wobbles. Mine doesnt. 99' 2" lift but with stock tyres. No correction bushes.

I also think any rust in a car that new stay away from. again, mine is 99' no rust and its been offroad.

They go much better than a sierra onroad. the 1.3 is quite zippy so you may not even want the 1.5 1.6 1.8.

If i wanted to do the 1.8 conversion straight away, Id be hunting for the cheapest 1st m13a. yr2000+ model,

Never heard of z model.
JX is basic, vinyl, no powersteer, no roof racks, window winders
JLX is carpet, powersteer, powerwindows, roof racks
Author:  BlueSuzy [ Thu Nov 10, 2011 12:09 am ]
Post subject:  Re: Questions - Buying a Jimny
Fair enough :)

Id still rather the m18 ecu as its programmed for the 1.8

Id also still rather the 4wd with the manual transfer shifter. 1 less electrical moving part to go wrong.
Author:  royce [ Thu Nov 10, 2011 12:39 am ]
Post subject:  Re: Questions - Buying a Jimny
drewmouli wrote:
BlueSuzy wrote:
Fair enough :)

Id still rather the m18 ecu as its programmed for the 1.8

Id also still rather the 4wd with the manual transfer shifter. 1 less electrical moving part to go wrong.


Nothing wrong with the M18 on the M13 ECU, it adapts its self pretty quick, Ask monkey how it goes with the rear locker on in the wet :P


You dont have any evidence to back this up though so its not helping the new guy one little bit
Author:  agrajagzz9 [ Thu Nov 10, 2011 1:04 am ]
Post subject:  Re: Questions - Buying a Jimny
Quote:
The M18 is VVT? how do I know oh yeh i have one Itle be way bigger effort to put an M18 into a non VVT series jimny. The M18 will bolt straight into a 2005 onwards and run off the M13 VVT ECU


Thanks, that's pretty much what I thought. The intention would be to get the m18 ecu as well but good to know it would work without it.

Quote:
Never heard of z model.
JX is basic, vinyl, no powersteer, no roof racks, window winders
JLX is carpet, powersteer, powerwindows, roof racks


Yeah, I had only heard of the JX and JLX too. But another one I was looking at in Townsville also has the Z Series badge. They seem to have the same features as JLX, but I'll ask the seller if he knows what it means.
Author:  Total_Filth [ Thu Nov 10, 2011 2:44 am ]
Post subject:  Re: Questions - Buying a Jimny
Get a soft top!


TF
Author:  agrajagzz9 [ Thu Nov 10, 2011 3:04 am ]
Post subject:  Re: Questions - Buying a Jimny
Total_Filth wrote:
Get a soft top!


TF

Lol, I would never get a soft top, not that I've seen one for sale in Aus anyway! no offense :P
Author:  Total_Filth [ Thu Nov 10, 2011 3:56 am ]
Post subject:  Re: Questions - Buying a Jimny
Yeh there's not many around.... I just bought mine. Love it so far.


TF
Author:  atari4x4 [ Thu Nov 10, 2011 4:17 am ]
Post subject:  Re: Questions - Buying a Jimny
weren't the soft top jimny's built in brazil or somewhere other than japan?
Author:  steak_knife [ Thu Nov 10, 2011 5:04 am ]
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Z is elc window's, carpet, p/s, 4 speaker's & alloy wheel's... :helloo:
Author:  steak_knife [ Thu Nov 10, 2011 5:04 am ]
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Oh, & it's a QLD thing...
Author:  Glynn. [ Thu Nov 10, 2011 5:29 am ]
Post subject:  Re: Questions - Buying a Jimny
Total_Filth wrote:
Yeh there's not many around.... I just bought mine. Love it so far.


TF

word up for another soft top owner :)
you won yours on ebay?

ifyou need anyone to have a look at a jimny in brisbane i can
Author:  smis [ Thu Nov 10, 2011 5:31 am ]
Post subject:  Re: Questions - Buying a Jimny
atari4x4 wrote:
weren't the soft top jimny's built in brazil or somewhere other than japan?


my jimny softtop was build in spain by santana, also europe samurai's (sierra's) come from there since 1993-1995
Author:  Total_Filth [ Thu Nov 10, 2011 8:32 am ]
Post subject:  Re: Questions - Buying a Jimny
Glynn. wrote:
Total_Filth wrote:
Yeh there's not many around.... I just bought mine. Love it so far.


TF

word up for another soft top owner :)
you won yours on ebay?

ifyou need anyone to have a look at a jimny in brisbane i can


S'goin on!?

Nah not ebay. Local guy selling it through Gumtree. thought i'd snap it up. There certainly aren't many around.

TF
Author:  monley [ Thu Nov 10, 2011 8:47 am ]
Post subject:  Re: Questions - Buying a Jimny
drewmouli wrote:
BlueSuzy wrote:
Fair enough :)

Id still rather the m18 ecu as its programmed for the 1.8

Id also still rather the 4wd with the manual transfer shifter. 1 less electrical moving part to go wrong.


Nothing wrong with the M18 on the M13 ECU, it adapts its self pretty quick, Ask monkey how it goes with the rear locker on in the wet :P


I thought i was in a drift car :blink: not a tall, short wheel base zook :lol:
Author:  BlueSuzy [ Thu Nov 10, 2011 12:09 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Questions - Buying a Jimny
They hit the round'a'bouts. Like any car, hit anything fast enough at the wrong angle, it will roll.
Author:  agrajagzz9 [ Thu Nov 10, 2011 9:16 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Questions - Buying a Jimny
drewmouli, does the m18 make much of a difference to fuel use? I looked up the Liana specs and it still says 7.4L per 100. I'm guessing it would use a bit more in the Jimny though. How much did you use before and after the conversion? I've read that they generally get between 7 and 11L per 100, depending on how heavy your foot is, and the terrain.
Author:  squibby [ Thu Nov 10, 2011 9:45 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Questions - Buying a Jimny
I narrowed my search down to the 05 onwards because I much preferred the facelift interior. If I could change one thing on the whole car, I would have got myself the auto because the gear change/clutch action on the suzuki it truly aweful. But auto's are big bucks I think, I've only seen very new models with them.
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