I guess its on the hunt for a new axle
Thanks guys
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| Author: | zooky08 [ Sat Nov 12, 2011 10:57 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Warn down axle |
Hey guys. I'm at the stage or replacing my rear wheel bearings in my Jimny. Looks to be that the left hand side bearing has seized and the center of the bearings has started rotating and wearing down the axle. The near bearing has about maybe a mil play side to side on the axle. What are my choices. Get some kind of thin sleeve? or get a diff place to weld it up then skim it back down to correct size? Much appreciated |
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| Author: | steak_knife [ Sat Nov 12, 2011 11:04 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Warn down axle |
http://www.vsm.skf.com/en-US/HeavyDuty/ ... leeve.aspx I have also in the past ( & this is used as a factory fix ) center punched the axle/hub all round the contact point's & loctited the bearing on, you can get a loctite that's made for the job.... P.S. don't center punch the bearing, only where the bearing sits..... |
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| Author: | weaves [ Sat Nov 12, 2011 11:06 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Warn down axle |
The only proper fix is going to be weld and grind. there are plenty of other things that might work. There are epoxy's you could fill the gap with, some loctite magic metal or possibly even a speedy sleeve. But i wouldn't use or recommend any of these unless your really stuck, as they will all fail sooner or later, possibly leaving you with even more damage to fix. i would do a call around to the wreckers and see if anyone has a axle there. weaves |
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| Author: | weaves [ Sat Nov 12, 2011 11:09 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Warn down axle |
steak_knife wrote: http://www.vsm.skf.com/en-US/HeavyDuty/KitsAndTools/SpeediSleeve.aspx
I have also in the past ( & this is used as a factory fix ) center punched the axle/hub all round the contact point's & loctited the bearing on, you can get a loctite that's made for the job.... P.S. don't center punch the bearing, only where the bearing sits..... Those speedy sleeves aren't made to have loads on them like that. They tear really easily. i have had customers use them in that manner to get them out of trouble, but its never lasted any decent amount of time. |
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| Author: | steak_knife [ Sat Nov 12, 2011 11:15 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Warn down axle |
I've never used one....... I don't like the idea of welding & machining the axle tho, asking for trouble.... |
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| Author: | zooky08 [ Sat Nov 12, 2011 11:18 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Warn down axle |
I didn't really want to look for a new axle because I know it's gonna be hard to find one in my area. What damage could it make later on if I put locktite or a speedy sleeve in there? |
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| Author: | weaves [ Sat Nov 12, 2011 11:33 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Warn down axle |
zooky08 wrote: I didn't really want to look for a new axle because I know it's gonna be hard to find one in my area. What damage could it make later on if I put locktite or a speedy sleeve in there? First issue with loctite is it requires the absence of air to cure, any of your retainers, thread lockers or hydraulic sealants needs to have an interference fit to start the curing process. You can get around this on some products with the use of a primer and a accelerator (but don't expect change from 100 bux if you want the retainer, primer and accelerator). With a worn shaft you might not have a tight enough clearance to set the loctite off. Now if you went a speedy sleeve, they too are a interference fit, so you need to get it to pass over the non damaged section of shaft, stretching it to the size of the undamaged section. You will need to support the speedy sleeve with a two part epoxy. But this is where it gets tricky, you need to put a runny epoxy onto a shaft, push the speedy sleeve over the top and keep the epoxy in, and the sleeve centred while the epoxy cures. Then you have a very big chance of the sleeve splitting when you press the bearing over the top. If you don't get the bearing centred or the speedy sleeve spins/splits and throws metal and epoxy shavings through your diff.. thats not going to end well. steak_knife wrote: I've never used one.......
I don't like the idea of welding & machining the axle tho, asking for trouble.... We get damaged and worn shafts in at work every week. Having them welded and machined by a qualified machinist is as safe as buying a new one. I wouldn't try stick welding it up and grinding it with a angle grinder though. And i don't think it would be much more if any more costly than buying all these loctite products and speedi sleeves weaves |
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| Author: | zooky08 [ Sat Nov 12, 2011 11:41 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Warn down axle |
I guess its on the hunt for a new axle Thanks guys
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| Author: | zooky08 [ Sat Nov 12, 2011 11:42 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Warn down axle |
Jimny owners, Are all m13a, VVT and non VVT axles the same? |
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| Author: | mrw82 [ Sat Nov 12, 2011 11:43 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Warn down axle |
speedi sleeves are intended to repair seal running surfaces. they are not designed to support the load of a bearing. as weaves said, it would be a very temopoary fix. either get a replacement axle or get that one repaired by welding/machining. |
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