Bugsta wrote:
weird turbo.
It really does 
Could be you alternator bearing Wayne
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| Author: | Bugsta [ Sun Dec 11, 2011 9:20 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Jimny AC compressor and Elec fan |
Destroyed the Electric fan and AC clutch yesterday . Fan - Is there any aftermarket fans that are close enough in size and mountings that will suit. Obviously, I can refit the plug. AC Compressor - Went through stages yesterday. Only worked some of the time. Later it started to burn the belt so I turned it off. Later in the day it started zzz'ing from 4,000 RPM up sounding like a turbo spooling but eventually turned into a groan. I am assuming its the clutch at this stage, but will do a little testing later. Can the clutch assembly be removed and replaced on these compressors, or does that mean a new compressor? |
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| Author: | BlueSuzy [ Sun Dec 11, 2011 10:21 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Jimny AC compressor and Elec fan |
Fan, Unsure. I have an original if you need it. m13a nonvvt AC comp, Clutches come off with one bolt if you lock the outer section in a vice or something. Bit tricky to hold it. Unsure about finding another one though. Sound like the compressor is abit shit though.. Seizeing up so the clutch slips, heating up and melting your belt.. |
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| Author: | steak_knife [ Mon Dec 12, 2011 6:41 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Jimny AC compressor and Elec fan |
I have 2 fan's here to chose from, 2nd hand $30 each.. The front bearing's in the a/c pump's do let go, as any would, I have see the bearing seize & destroy the front plate on the compressor, both time's I have fitted a 2nd hand unit with new clutch & bearing..... |
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| Author: | Bugsta [ Sat Dec 17, 2011 1:15 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Jimny AC compressor and Elec fan |
I have just pulled the radiator, and removed the clutch. As I suspected - clutch and bearing disintegrated. Can I get a replacement clutch and bearing assembly? Are they specific to Jimny or are they fairly stsandard? ANd of course, where and likely cost? |
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| Author: | Bugsta [ Sat Dec 17, 2011 3:58 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Jimny AC compressor and Elec fan |
Really needs a new magnet to. |
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| Author: | Bugsta [ Sat Dec 17, 2011 4:45 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Jimny AC compressor and Elec fan |
If I want to drive the vehicle withOUT(edit) the AC compressor in the loop, what size belt do I need? |
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| Author: | Bugsta [ Sat Dec 17, 2011 10:49 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Jimny AC compressor and Elec fan |
bump. Anyone got any info on these? |
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| Author: | steak_knife [ Sat Dec 17, 2011 11:15 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Jimny AC compressor and Elec fan |
Bugsta wrote: If I want to drive the vehicle withOUT(edit) the AC compressor in the loop, what size belt do I need?
Run some string round the pully's then measure said string, that's the length you need, then just add 4pk to the front of said measurement... no Jim came out without A/c, so the size you want is unknown.. |
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| Author: | Bugsta [ Sat Dec 17, 2011 11:24 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Jimny AC compressor and Elec fan |
Ok, string is a good idea. Was going to use a sewing tape, but that would get a slightly longer measurement. |
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| Author: | Bugsta [ Sat Dec 24, 2011 7:52 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Jimny AC compressor and Elec fan |
Ok, so last week I took the whole assembly - pulley, clutch plate to Mr Cool and they removed and refit the bearing, and provided me with a new coil and resurfaced the pulley and clutch plate. I wanted to do it all in situe so I did not have do de/regas at extra cost. To remove and refit the coil meant an external circlip. Straight circlip pliers were useless because they were too long and fouled on the radiator. Also, using a headlamp and mirror, I just could not see anything. The coil was 20mm deep, and the bent nose on any standard bent pliers are only 15mm. I purchased a pair of $13 SuperCrap pliers and heat bent them yesterday in the vice with my MAPP kit. (I'll post a pic of this some time). These worked a charm and with a bit of reverse mirror practice, had the old coil off, and the new one on. So, now my air con works again. I also notice the engine reving/surging is gone, so I think this was caused by the AC compressor missbehaving due to the dead bearing. Unfortunately, the zzz'ing sound is still there and I suspect its the idler pulley pulley. I might squirt water at each pulley one at a time and see if the sound changes. Anyone know which its likely to be? Actualy now that I think about it, I recall my old (67) holden having a very minor, and permanent zz'ing sound in the power steering pump. This is much louder though and audible by anyone nearby with their window down! edit: Just as a reminder - Its only audible above the engine noise above ~2,500 revs. |
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| Author: | BlueSuzy [ Sat Dec 24, 2011 8:24 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Jimny AC compressor and Elec fan |
Do you have powersteering? Alot of jeeps do this. |
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| Author: | Bugsta [ Sat Dec 24, 2011 8:41 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Jimny AC compressor and Elec fan |
Yes, thats why I mention it. It was never this loud though. Sounds like some weird turbo. |
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| Author: | zooky08 [ Sat Dec 24, 2011 8:50 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Jimny AC compressor and Elec fan |
Bugsta wrote: weird turbo. It really does Could be you alternator bearing Wayne
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| Author: | Bugsta [ Sat Dec 24, 2011 8:53 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Jimny AC compressor and Elec fan |
I am pretty sure its coming from the LHS. Just couldn't get my head close enough hehe to identify which one hehe |
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| Author: | Bugsta [ Mon Dec 26, 2011 8:11 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Jimny AC compressor and Elec fan |
Confirmed today that it is the Idler pulley. Anyone know if this bearing is replaceable and perhaps what the specs/part number would be |
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| Author: | Moag [ Mon Dec 26, 2011 9:02 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Jimny AC compressor and Elec fan |
I replaced mine with NULINE EP158 from a Holden Cruze ..... same same but cheaper. eziautoparts |
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| Author: | Bugsta [ Mon Dec 26, 2011 9:36 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Jimny AC compressor and Elec fan |
Perhaps I have the wrong name. Its the adjuster/tensioner pulley. I didn't realise there was another idle pulley. How bout that one 
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| Author: | Moag [ Mon Dec 26, 2011 9:51 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Jimny AC compressor and Elec fan |
Its the one on the aircon belt that adjusts the belt tension (on a M13A engine). Is this what your after? |
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| Author: | Bugsta [ Mon Dec 26, 2011 11:01 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Jimny AC compressor and Elec fan |
Yep thats the one. Was at my dad's. He got out his stethescope with midified screw driver and we did some sound and rev tests. Confirmed ot had to be the tensioner. Makes a whizzing sound from about 2,500 RPM upwards and just gets louder. |
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| Author: | Moag [ Mon Dec 26, 2011 11:37 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Jimny AC compressor and Elec fan |
So the one above is what you need, just ask for 2002 holden cruze one (M15A engine). Same thing (size), and cheaper. Or you might be able press the fucked bearing out of the pulley and find one the same size from a bearing place. |
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| Author: | Bugsta [ Mon Dec 26, 2011 11:38 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Jimny AC compressor and Elec fan |
Serious? The Holden cruze has the same series engine? |
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| Author: | Moag [ Mon Dec 26, 2011 11:49 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Jimny AC compressor and Elec fan |
Drover and then the Cruze 4x4 to compete with the Jimny. Edit:The pdf I got the part number from just scroll down to General Motors 
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| Author: | Bugsta [ Mon Dec 26, 2011 11:58 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Jimny AC compressor and Elec fan |
On the blower to Repco tomorrow for pulley and front shocks. I'd love to get some Bilsteins but can't wait that long. I think both are now shot. Just have to go back to HQ rears and remove the dust cover unless I can find a 500mm upside down mono quickly. |
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| Author: | Bugsta [ Mon Dec 26, 2011 9:55 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Jimny AC compressor and Elec fan |
Would this pulley be the same on all of the m--a series engines? m15/m16/m18 |
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| Author: | Moag [ Mon Dec 26, 2011 10:17 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Jimny AC compressor and Elec fan |
Don't know.....but good question!!! |
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| Author: | Bugsta [ Mon Dec 26, 2011 10:22 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Jimny AC compressor and Elec fan |
Next thing where to get a pulley or bearing today! Bearing places closed Repco doesn't list it |
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| Author: | zuk85 [ Mon Dec 26, 2011 10:28 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Jimny AC compressor and Elec fan |
I know i have been trying to find a wrecked cruze up here to get the m15a out of it lol |
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| Author: | Bugsta [ Mon Dec 26, 2011 11:25 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Jimny AC compressor and Elec fan |
I'll be looking for a m16a from a Swift GTi |
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| Author: | Bugsta [ Tue Dec 27, 2011 12:25 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Jimny AC compressor and Elec fan |
Well I took the tensioner pulley off, drilled a hole and removed the seal, washed it out with kero, repacked it, washed it again with degreaser, repacked it, reinstalled the seal, glued the hole and reinstalled the pulley. The noise is still there but a little quieter I think. 
Will have to do till I can get a replacement. |
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| Author: | Moag [ Tue Dec 27, 2011 12:56 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Jimny AC compressor and Elec fan |
Total different to the Cruze one. The cruze one fits on a non VV M13A without power steering for certain. So sent you up the garden path hey.
suzistore have what you need $$ |
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