royce wrote:
yes
Qualified welder tho....
I think.....
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| Author: | zooky08 [ Thu Dec 15, 2011 5:08 am ] |
| Post subject: | Sliders/fish plate |
Is it illegal to weld fish plates to the chassis for sliders? |
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| Author: | royce [ Thu Dec 15, 2011 5:10 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Sliders/fish plate |
yes |
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| Author: | zooky08 [ Thu Dec 15, 2011 5:12 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Sliders/fish plate |
royce wrote: yes Thanks Royce
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| Author: | steak_knife [ Thu Dec 15, 2011 5:13 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Sliders/fish plate |
royce wrote: yes
Qualified welder tho.... I think.....
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| Author: | royce [ Thu Dec 15, 2011 5:16 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Sliders/fish plate |
steak_knife wrote: royce wrote: yes Qualified welder tho.... I think..... Think its along the lines of the bit that says no welding on chassis rail flanges and sections saying do not weld Car remember, not truck plus why would you, whole lot stronger to wrap around the rail than lever in the middle of one side |
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| Author: | steak_knife [ Thu Dec 15, 2011 5:27 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Sliders/fish plate |
royce wrote: steak_knife wrote: royce wrote: yes Qualified welder tho.... I think..... Think its along the lines of the bit that says no welding on chassis rail flanges and sections saying do not weld Car remember, not truck plus why would you, whole lot stronger to wrap around the rail than lever in the middle of one side A what????
I was under the impression the even with a car it has to be a qualified or some one supervised by said welder. I do lot's of structural weld's at work, but only cause we have a boily on the payroll... |
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| Author: | zooky08 [ Thu Dec 15, 2011 5:44 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Sliders/fish plate |
I would get it done at work. I thought clamp around chassis would be weaker? As it could work it's way loose or move over time and start crushing your chassis. |
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| Author: | suzukiboy [ Thu Dec 15, 2011 7:00 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Sliders/fish plate |
Mine hasn't moved or crushed the rails. 
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| Author: | stocker [ Thu Dec 15, 2011 7:36 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Sliders/fish plate |
suzukiboy wrote: Mine hasn't moved or crushed the rails.
Just wondering what thickness steel you used there? |
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| Author: | atari4x4 [ Thu Dec 15, 2011 7:44 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Sliders/fish plate |
that pic is like 100 years old, suzukiboy what about a current pic of the sliders? |
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| Author: | suzukiboy [ Thu Dec 15, 2011 7:53 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Sliders/fish plate |
atari4x4 wrote: that pic is like 100 years old, suzukiboy what about a current pic of the sliders?
Do you want some pics with scratches on them? 
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| Author: | suzukiboy [ Thu Dec 15, 2011 8:14 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Sliders/fish plate |
stocker wrote: suzukiboy wrote: Mine hasn't moved or crushed the rails. Just wondering what thickness steel you used there?Will measure on the weekend. |
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| Author: | SierraDan [ Thu Dec 15, 2011 8:38 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Sliders/fish plate |
This is on my mates car. 6mm fish plate and 16mm flat bar. 
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| Author: | zooky08 [ Thu Dec 15, 2011 8:43 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Sliders/fish plate |
SierraDan wrote: This is on my mates car. That's what I would like to do, but I've been told it's illegal 6mm fish plate and 16mm flat bar. 
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| Author: | SierraDan [ Thu Dec 15, 2011 8:50 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Sliders/fish plate |
zooky08 wrote: SierraDan wrote: This is on my mates car. That's what I would like to do, but I've been told it's illegal 6mm fish plate and 16mm flat bar. It's a good setup. It's still holding up. But, the more common way of mounting sliders is better i think. |
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| Author: | steak_knife [ Thu Dec 15, 2011 8:52 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Sliders/fish plate |
Talk to Mr Fat, he has fishy plate's that wrap 3/4's of the rail... 
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| Author: | Fatzook [ Thu Dec 15, 2011 8:52 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Sliders/fish plate |
zooky08 wrote: SierraDan wrote: This is on my mates car. That's what I would like to do, but I've been told it's illegal 6mm fish plate and 16mm flat bar. Told by who? I've been advised by an engineer that it is ok when done by a qualified person using correct engineering practices. From memory, vehicles over 4.5t GVM have a different set of rules regarding chassis welding. |
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| Author: | royce [ Thu Dec 15, 2011 8:54 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Sliders/fish plate |
Fatzook wrote: zooky08 wrote: SierraDan wrote: This is on my mates car. That's what I would like to do, but I've been told it's illegal 6mm fish plate and 16mm flat bar. Told by who? I've been advised by an engineer that it is ok when done by a qualified person using correct engineering practices. From memory, vehicles over 4.5t GVM have a different set of rules regarding chassis welding. How is the process recorded and checked? testing and documenting welds are a whole industry in themselves |
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| Author: | zooky08 [ Thu Dec 15, 2011 9:07 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Sliders/fish plate |
What I should of said is it illegal for anyone to weld on fish plates for slider. So I assume Royce said it was illegal cos he thought I would do it. I would take the car into work and get one of the boilys to do it for me, but What would be the correct engineering practices. |
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| Author: | Fatzook [ Thu Dec 15, 2011 9:07 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Sliders/fish plate |
royce wrote: Fatzook wrote: zooky08 wrote: SierraDan wrote: This is on my mates car. That's what I would like to do, but I've been told it's illegal 6mm fish plate and 16mm flat bar. Told by who? I've been advised by an engineer that it is ok when done by a qualified person using correct engineering practices. From memory, vehicles over 4.5t GVM have a different set of rules regarding chassis welding. How is the process recorded and checked? testing and documenting welds are a whole industry in themselves NFI. I never asked that many questions. Thats why I use bolt on mounts now. There is next to zero chance of upsetting the authorities. 
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| Author: | zooky08 [ Thu Dec 15, 2011 9:10 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Sliders/fish plate |
I guess I'll just have to do a bolt on job some how. |
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| Author: | steak_knife [ Thu Dec 15, 2011 9:12 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Sliders/fish plate |
Fatzook wrote: NFI. I never asked that many questions. Thats why I use bolt on mounts now. There is next to zero chance of upsetting the authorities. I'll take all your fishy cheap then, swap you for a cat... 
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| Author: | Fatzook [ Thu Dec 15, 2011 9:14 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Sliders/fish plate |
steak_knife wrote: Fatzook wrote: NFI. I never asked that many questions. Thats why I use bolt on mounts now. There is next to zero chance of upsetting the authorities. I'll take all your fishy cheap then, swap you for a cat... Hahahaha  Got enough cats already 
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| Author: | losfer [ Thu Dec 15, 2011 9:25 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Sliders/fish plate |
SierraDan wrote: This is on my mates car.
6mm fish plate and 16mm flat bar. that is extremely tidy , the weld there is probably stronger than anything in the whole car . I know an engineer who would sign that off and would put a nice shiny blue plaque in your engine bay... |
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| Author: | SierraDan [ Thu Dec 15, 2011 9:29 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Sliders/fish plate |
Yeah my mate Scotty is an awesome welder. Was showing me how to weld and demonstrating without a helmet, he did a perfect bead with his eyes shut. I ask him to weld things for me 
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| Author: | monley [ Thu Dec 15, 2011 9:55 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Sliders/fish plate |
zooky08 wrote: I guess I'll just have to do a bolt on job some how.
Easy 
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| Author: | zooky08 [ Thu Dec 15, 2011 9:57 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Sliders/fish plate |
Did you get pass the fuel lines on the drivers side and were abouts did you it ur clamps as the Jimny chassis goes on a angle |
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| Author: | monley [ Thu Dec 15, 2011 10:00 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Sliders/fish plate |
zooky08 wrote: Did you get pass the fuel lines on the drivers side and were abouts did you it ur clamps as the Jimny chassis goes on a angle
Where the fuel lines are, i put the bolt's on the out side of them
As for the clamps.... i made them! |
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| Author: | zooky08 [ Thu Dec 15, 2011 10:11 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Sliders/fish plate |
Ment put them not get them I was thinking at each end of the radius arm mounts I can get a clamp around the chassis
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| Author: | ridzilla [ Thu Dec 15, 2011 10:14 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Sliders/fish plate |
It's a bit late but yes you can weld onto a chassis, as long as you're a coded welder and you can get it engineered. |
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