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Author:  Bugsta [ Sun Jan 15, 2012 2:07 am ]
Post subject:  Jimny Clock Spring Repair
Finally pulled my clock spring unit out and the spring itself is munched up completely just due to continued use after breakage I would say.

Is there any repair companies in Aus, or preferably in Brisbane that have the materials and expertise to repair these things? Looks like, just a new piece of ribbon and a little bit of time to refit and it'd be fixed. I'd do it myself if I could get the ribbon.

Any clues?
Author:  steak_knife [ Sun Jan 15, 2012 2:13 am ]
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Not legal to repair ANY Air bag harness or component!!!
Author:  Jester [ Sun Jan 15, 2012 4:21 am ]
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x2 replace clockspring
Author:  Bugsta [ Sun Jan 15, 2012 4:49 am ]
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Then I guess it stays not working because I don't have $700
Author:  steak_knife [ Sun Jan 15, 2012 4:51 am ]
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Get a 2nd hand one.... out of a car that hasn't had a deployment.... :helloo:
Author:  Bugsta [ Sun Jan 15, 2012 10:45 am ]
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steak_knife wrote:
Get a 2nd hand one.... out of a car that hasn't had a deployment.... :helloo:

Few and far between because thats usually the reason they are being wrecked :helloo:
And any that are not deployed are still multiple hundred dollars and they want to sell with the combo switch. :helloo:
Author:  Fatzook [ Sun Jan 15, 2012 10:50 am ]
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Bugsta wrote:
steak_knife wrote:
Get a 2nd hand one.... out of a car that hasn't had a deployment.... :helloo:

Few and far between because thats usually the reason they are being wrecked :helloo:
And any that are not deployed are still multiple hundred dollars and they want to sell with the combo switch. :helloo:


This is a sad story. However it does not change the fact that you need a new one.
Author:  Bugsta [ Sun Jan 15, 2012 9:09 pm ]
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Fixed. Had a early unit that had different connections, so I spent time pulling the connectors off each and swapped them.
Author:  taziiy [ Sun Jan 15, 2012 9:45 pm ]
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Still doesn't sound good this is your saftey your playing with
Author:  gypsy [ Sun Jan 15, 2012 9:50 pm ]
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taziiy wrote:
Still doesn't sound good this is your saftey your playing with
Well he did weld snapped arms so safety don't seem to matter
Author:  Bugsta [ Sun Jan 15, 2012 10:09 pm ]
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gypsy wrote:
Well he did weld snapped arms so safety don't seem to matter

Well they were made by a certain someone who cut corners and didn't make them out of the material he said he would. They weren't cromo, just HT steel (and not even CDS), and the break started at the weld.

And I would have thought this was better than NOT having a working clock spring as I haven't for the past 6 months.
Author:  royce [ Sun Jan 15, 2012 10:41 pm ]
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Cold drawn seamless doesnt imply in any way that it is a structural grade product, Chrome Moly IS high tensile steel
Author:  Fatzook [ Sun Jan 15, 2012 11:56 pm ]
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Bugsta wrote:
They weren't cromo, just HT steel (and not even CDS), and the break started at the weld.



CRMO requires de-stressing after it has been welded. Otherwise the metal stores tension in the area surrounding the weld, which makes it brittle. Relaxing the metal in a controlled environment ( oven) is needed to normalise the stresses within the material and any welded areas.

Even if your arms were CRMO they were undoubtedly not heat treated after manufacture, making them as strong as the weakest point.......the weld area.

Alot of HT steels benifit from heat treatment after welding.
Author:  Bugsta [ Mon Jan 16, 2012 12:13 am ]
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Yah. They were not anything special. One bent, the other broke.
Author:  steak_knife [ Mon Jan 16, 2012 5:45 am ]
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steak_knife wrote:
Not legal to repair ANY Air bag harness or component!!!




Bugsta wrote:
Fixed. Had a early unit that had different connections, so I spent time pulling the connectors off each and swapped them.


There is a good reason it's not legal....

But hell, you'll be right.... :crazy:
Author:  Bugsta [ Mon Jan 16, 2012 7:57 am ]
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Well, its in, horn works and no deployed air bag. Not the trickiest thing I've ever attempted. So yeah, I think I'll be right.
Author:  zukenutter [ Mon Jan 16, 2012 8:29 am ]
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I think the time has come to stop blaming the manufacturer of the arms and accept that you drive it like it's a rental.

No amount of special engineering is ever going to withstand your driving style.
Author:  Bugsta [ Mon Jan 16, 2012 8:43 am ]
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Oh, I KNOW how I drive it, however, I do think a quality product would have not failed.
Author:  steak_knife [ Mon Jan 16, 2012 9:04 am ]
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Bugsta wrote:
Well, its in, horn works and no deployed air bag. Not the trickiest thing I've ever attempted. So yeah, I think I'll be right.


That's what they are concerned about!!!!!!!!!!!!

Honestly mate, you should pull ya head out & listen to people some time's....
Author:  Bugsta [ Mon Jan 16, 2012 9:41 am ]
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Would kinda be pointless if it did deploy as soon as I connected it.

Glad you've got a spare $700.

So instead of offering advice on how to go about doing something effectively, that I was going to do, and have done anyway, all you've done is criticise and tell me how wrong it is. If you don't actually know, thats ok but perhaps you should not comment in that case. So, thanks for your help.

I just wonder how many mods on your car are not legal, and are safetly related... tyres, under sized brakes etc??
Author:  royce [ Mon Jan 16, 2012 9:44 am ]
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Bugsta wrote:
Would kinda be pointless if it did deploy as soon as I connected it.

Glad you've got a spare $700.

So instead of offering advice on how to go about doing something effectively, that I was going to do, and have done anyway, all you've done is criticise and tell me how wrong it is. If you don't actually know, thats ok but perhaps you should not comment in that case. So, thanks for your help.

I just wonder how many mods on your car are not legal, and are safetly related... tyres, under sized brakes etc??


I think the problem is everyone sees you drive like a ham fisted loon due to constantly smashing into shit, breaking shit and tearing driveline components off and then see you wish to tackle complex fixes you need to ask basic questions about to proceed

it comes under the term a little bit of knowledge is dangerous
Author:  steak_knife [ Mon Jan 16, 2012 9:46 am ]
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Your missing the point, you just wired up a fucking explosive device with no fucking idea what you were doing!!!!!!

Same way you drive, you don't listen!!!!!!!

They are worried it WON"T deploy in an accident!!!!!! :helloo:

It's there to SAVE you.......
Author:  zukenutter [ Mon Jan 16, 2012 9:51 am ]
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Also there are mods that may not technically be legal but are well planned and carried out to a professional level, and then there's bodgy fixes that are just dangerous. How can you bag the fabricator of those arms when you feel justified in welding it back together. Doesn't make sense.
Author:  10WEr [ Mon Jan 16, 2012 6:04 pm ]
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When your clock spring broke, did the airbag light come on in the dash?
Author:  Jester [ Mon Jan 16, 2012 6:32 pm ]
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10WEr wrote:
When your clock spring broke, did the airbag light come on in the dash?

wont always mate, sometimes it can be just horn not working cos there is 2 circuts in it. but if you have a broken clockspring for heaven's sake listen to stekky cos you dont wanna mess with the airbag system, Highly illegal and stupid, yes its not cheap but if you want a car without airbags buy an older one
Author:  steak_knife [ Mon Jan 16, 2012 7:05 pm ]
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Jester wrote:
10WEr wrote:
When your clock spring broke, did the airbag light come on in the dash?

wont always mate, sometimes it can be just horn not working cos there is 2 circuts in it. but if you have a broken clockspring for heaven's sake listen to stekky cos you dont wanna mess with the airbag system, Highly illegal and stupid, yes its not cheap but if you want a car without airbags buy an older one


Bingo!!!!! :helloo:
Author:  Scales [ Mon Jan 16, 2012 9:36 pm ]
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um wtf is the clock spring?
Author:  jimny_timmy [ Tue Jan 17, 2012 3:10 am ]
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Scales wrote:
um wtf is the clock spring?


My bet is a spring out of one of those wind-up clocks from back in the day :p

But I'm sure I'm wrong lol and I'd like to know also :)
Author:  steak_knife [ Tue Jan 17, 2012 7:00 am ]
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Scales wrote:
um wtf is the clock spring?


Sit's behind the steering wheel, it keep's contact with the horn & air bag even when the wheel's turning..
If turned to far they break, which is what I'm guessing happened to this thing.
Author:  gypsy [ Tue Jan 17, 2012 8:20 am ]
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I think the problem is everyone sees you drive like a ham fisted loon due to constantly smashing into shit, breaking shit and tearing driveline components off and then see you wish to tackle complex fixes you need to ask basic questions about to proceed

it comes under the term a little bit of knowledge is dangerous[/quote]Bingo
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