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Author:  zooky08 [ Sun Jan 15, 2012 8:23 am ]
Post subject:  Flattened cv axle spline

Okay I pulled my diff apart to see what damage I have done in the jimmy.
Lots of bad news and more money to spend.
Just wondering could I carefully take a turbo disc to this spline to regrove it
Or is it time for a new cv.
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Also here's the damage :( Piece snapped out of the side

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In this pic you can still see half of the inner race of the bearing.Image

Author:  Fatzook [ Sun Jan 15, 2012 8:29 am ]
Post subject:  Re: Flattened cv axle spline

Your spindle is fucked!

Hub may be fine once you remove the rest of the outer race.

Does the munted spline stop you from getting the FWH back on?

Author:  zooky08 [ Sun Jan 15, 2012 8:36 am ]
Post subject:  Re: Flattened cv axle spline

Yea I know the spindle is fucked, alread got a wanted thread.
Hub should be okay once I take the outer race out.
No the fwh doesn't go on, first flattened bit stops it.

Author:  Fatzook [ Sun Jan 15, 2012 8:38 am ]
Post subject:  Re: Flattened cv axle spline

zooky08 wrote:
No the fwh doesn't go on, first flattened bit stops it.


How did you get the FWH off? Is it damaged too?

Author:  zooky08 [ Sun Jan 15, 2012 8:43 am ]
Post subject:  Re: Flattened cv axle spline

Fatzook wrote:
zooky08 wrote:
No the fwh doesn't go on, first flattened bit stops it.


How did you get the FWH off? Is it damaged too?
Well the funny thing is I never found the fwh. Lost it along the road before my wheel fell off :(

Author:  Fatzook [ Sun Jan 15, 2012 8:47 am ]
Post subject:  Re: Flattened cv axle spline

zooky08 wrote:
Fatzook wrote:
zooky08 wrote:
No the fwh doesn't go on, first flattened bit stops it.


How did you get the FWH off? Is it damaged too?
Well the funny thing is I never found the fwh. Lost it along the road before my wheel fell off :(


IMO i'd be getting a new CV.

Author:  zooky08 [ Sun Jan 15, 2012 8:50 am ]
Post subject:  Re: Flattened cv axle spline

Were would I source one from, suzistore? Checked eBay but couldn't find any

Author:  royce [ Sun Jan 15, 2012 8:57 am ]
Post subject:  Re: Flattened cv axle spline

keep the cv, chuck the rest

got any of those parts from a sierra? I reckon you might be able to make em fit with a sierra cv on a jimny axle

Author:  zooky08 [ Sun Jan 15, 2012 9:10 am ]
Post subject:  Re: Flattened cv axle spline

Sierra cv won't work as the shaft is alot smaller on a Jimny.
So a sierra cv shaft won't go through the Jimmy spindle.
A sierra cv and spindle might work if it bolts to the Jimny knuckle and the spindle is the same length as a Jimny one.

Author:  royce [ Sun Jan 15, 2012 9:13 am ]
Post subject:  Re: Flattened cv axle spline

sierra spindle is shorter so you really need the sierra cv in there to make it all work

Author:  zooky08 [ Sun Jan 15, 2012 9:21 am ]
Post subject:  Re: Flattened cv axle spline

Is there a difference in diameter of a 1lt and 1.3l cv axle shaft.
Is the 1lt smaller? If so that might fit into the Jimny spindle.
Also will have to have the same inner cv spline count as a Jimny inner axle

If not then I'll try source down a nother cv
Might see if I can regrove the spline and use this cv first because I have a front locker going in on Monday and if I do break a cv atleast it's the old one and not a new one.

Author:  monley [ Sun Jan 15, 2012 9:37 am ]
Post subject:  Re: Flattened cv axle spline

zooky08 wrote:
Were would I source one from, suzistore? Checked eBay but couldn't find any


$250 for a 2nd hand one from them... :evil:

Author:  zooky08 [ Sun Jan 15, 2012 9:44 am ]
Post subject:  Re: Flattened cv axle spline

monkey wrote:
zooky08 wrote:
Were would I source one from, suzistore? Checked eBay but couldn't find any


$250 for a 2nd hand one from them... :evil:
well they can keep that found one. $64 of eBay.
Jimny cv is the same as a 1lt Sierra
I'll spend $250 on a couple of cvs :lol:

Author:  monley [ Sun Jan 15, 2012 9:46 am ]
Post subject:  Re: Flattened cv axle spline

Here's a bit of info about running sierra cv's in a jimny....


Quote:
Bugsta wrote:

I have Sierra CV's with Manual hubs. The Sierra Stub axles are way longer than Jimnys. I got him to make spacers that were 15mm which left about 1/2mm play between the circlip and FWH surface. We also changed from bolts to studs and a finer thread on the outside. Then cones, spring washers and nuts. All High Tensile of course.

With the previous setup... 10mm spacer, cones, washers and bolts, I was breaking bolts all the time. Partly because the holes in the spacers were oversize and that allowed movement. The new setup is very tight tolerance and required the spacer to be tapped on. We also used an automotive glue/sealant on both sides of the spacer and loctite on the inner ends of the studs.

There is nothing to be 'pressed'. The axles slide in and are held in by round edge circlips. I am not sure if standard Jimny axles are the same spline count. I may be able to heck this over the weekend.



Author:  ZookFan [ Sun Jan 15, 2012 9:46 am ]
Post subject:  Re: Flattened cv axle spline

Dam that looks horrible bro! 8O

Hope it does not cost too much extra :(

Author:  zooky08 [ Sun Jan 15, 2012 10:05 am ]
Post subject:  Re: Flattened cv axle spline

That sounds exspensive monkey but good info :D
I'm at $1500 for the front diff so no more money is going into it.
Trying to go the cheap way

Author:  ZookFan [ Mon Jan 16, 2012 12:58 am ]
Post subject:  Re: Flattened cv axle spline

zooky08 wrote:
monkey wrote:
zooky08 wrote:
Were would I source one from, suzistore? Checked eBay but couldn't find any


$250 for a 2nd hand one from them... :evil:
well they can keep that found one. $64 of eBay.
Jimny cv is the same as a 1lt Sierra
I'll spend $250 on a couple of cvs :lol:
. .. . why would that be??? the jim is a lot heavier than a 1litre zook,, also has a fair bit more powet too.. :wink: so why would they go backwards????

Author:  zooky08 [ Mon Jan 16, 2012 1:29 am ]
Post subject:  Re: Flattened cv axle spline

Don't know but cv joint and axles are alot smaller then the 1.3 sierra and far as I read Jimny cv joints are same as 1lt Sierra

Author:  BlueSuzy [ Mon Jan 16, 2012 1:37 am ]
Post subject:  Re: Flattened cv axle spline

Jimny axles and cv's are tiny. Suzuki took a backward step. Who knows why?

Author:  Fatzook [ Mon Jan 16, 2012 1:56 am ]
Post subject:  Re: Flattened cv axle spline

BlueSuzy wrote:
Jimny axles and cv's are tiny. Suzuki took a backward step. Who knows why?


Because they softened the whole car. Its the way of the future :crazy:

Author:  Bugsta [ Mon Jan 16, 2012 8:10 am ]
Post subject:  Re: Flattened cv axle spline

I have repaird many splines and threads just with needle files. Its not an ideal fix, but if there is only a few splines and only a small part of them damaged, its a way of reusing what you have.

Author:  Bugsta [ Mon Jan 16, 2012 9:38 am ]
Post subject:  Re: Flattened cv axle spline

Edit: Not always needle files - depends on the size of the gooves/splines. I keep about 3 sizes of triangle and some others.

Author:  ZookFan [ Mon Jan 16, 2012 7:35 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Flattened cv axle spline

Fatzook wrote:
BlueSuzy wrote:
Jimny axles and cv's are tiny. Suzuki took a backward step. Who knows why?


Because they softened the whole car. Its the way of the future :crazy:


BANG ON! :evil: even the iconic Defender will be gone by 2017 :cry: that leves very few live axled 4x4's left!!! :cry:

What's the world coming to :cry:

Author:  dank [ Mon Jan 16, 2012 9:01 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Flattened cv axle spline

Only option will be jeeps! :P

On another note....so you guys are fitting sierra CVS to Jimny inner axles??

Author:  ZookFan [ Tue Jan 17, 2012 7:02 am ]
Post subject:  Re: Flattened cv axle spline

looking that way hey.. sad to say the least! :cry:

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