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zooky08

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Joined: Fri Nov 27, 2009 10:30 pm Posts: 3426 Location: imbil/gympie. qld
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 Posted: Sun Jan 15, 2012 8:23 am |
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Okay I pulled my diff apart to see what damage I have done in the jimmy.
Lots of bad news and more money to spend.
Just wondering could I carefully take a turbo disc to this spline to regrove it
Or is it time for a new cv.
Also here's the damage  Piece snapped out of the side
In this pic you can still see half of the inner race of the bearing. 
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Fatzook

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 Posted: Sun Jan 15, 2012 8:29 am |
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Your spindle is fucked!
Hub may be fine once you remove the rest of the outer race.
Does the munted spline stop you from getting the FWH back on?
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zooky08

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Joined: Fri Nov 27, 2009 10:30 pm Posts: 3426 Location: imbil/gympie. qld
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 Posted: Sun Jan 15, 2012 8:36 am |
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Yea I know the spindle is fucked, alread got a wanted thread.
Hub should be okay once I take the outer race out.
No the fwh doesn't go on, first flattened bit stops it.
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Fatzook

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zooky08 wrote: No the fwh doesn't go on, first flattened bit stops it.
How did you get the FWH off? Is it damaged too?
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zooky08

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Joined: Fri Nov 27, 2009 10:30 pm Posts: 3426 Location: imbil/gympie. qld
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 Posted: Sun Jan 15, 2012 8:43 am |
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Fatzook wrote: zooky08 wrote: No the fwh doesn't go on, first flattened bit stops it. How did you get the FWH off? Is it damaged too? Well the funny thing is I never found the fwh. Lost it along the road before my wheel fell off 
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Fatzook

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Joined: Sat Oct 27, 2007 11:30 pm Posts: 14977 Location: The Hills
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zooky08 wrote: Fatzook wrote: zooky08 wrote: No the fwh doesn't go on, first flattened bit stops it. How did you get the FWH off? Is it damaged too? Well the funny thing is I never found the fwh. Lost it along the road before my wheel fell off 
IMO i'd be getting a new CV.
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zooky08

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Joined: Fri Nov 27, 2009 10:30 pm Posts: 3426 Location: imbil/gympie. qld
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Were would I source one from, suzistore? Checked eBay but couldn't find any
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royce

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Joined: Sun Jun 11, 2006 11:30 pm Posts: 17216 Location: Pluto
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 Posted: Sun Jan 15, 2012 8:57 am |
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keep the cv, chuck the rest
got any of those parts from a sierra? I reckon you might be able to make em fit with a sierra cv on a jimny axle
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zooky08

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Joined: Fri Nov 27, 2009 10:30 pm Posts: 3426 Location: imbil/gympie. qld
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 Posted: Sun Jan 15, 2012 9:10 am |
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Sierra cv won't work as the shaft is alot smaller on a Jimny.
So a sierra cv shaft won't go through the Jimmy spindle.
A sierra cv and spindle might work if it bolts to the Jimny knuckle and the spindle is the same length as a Jimny one.
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royce

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 Posted: Sun Jan 15, 2012 9:13 am |
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sierra spindle is shorter so you really need the sierra cv in there to make it all work
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zooky08

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Joined: Fri Nov 27, 2009 10:30 pm Posts: 3426 Location: imbil/gympie. qld
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 Posted: Sun Jan 15, 2012 9:21 am |
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Is there a difference in diameter of a 1lt and 1.3l cv axle shaft.
Is the 1lt smaller? If so that might fit into the Jimny spindle.
Also will have to have the same inner cv spline count as a Jimny inner axle
If not then I'll try source down a nother cv
Might see if I can regrove the spline and use this cv first because I have a front locker going in on Monday and if I do break a cv atleast it's the old one and not a new one.
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monley

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Joined: Wed Nov 24, 2010 7:58 am Posts: 11092 Location: Mandurah.W.A.
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zooky08 wrote: Were would I source one from, suzistore? Checked eBay but couldn't find any
$250 for a 2nd hand one from them... 
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zooky08

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Joined: Fri Nov 27, 2009 10:30 pm Posts: 3426 Location: imbil/gympie. qld
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monkey wrote: zooky08 wrote: Were would I source one from, suzistore? Checked eBay but couldn't find any $250 for a 2nd hand one from them...  well they can keep that found one. $64 of eBay.
Jimny cv is the same as a 1lt Sierra
I'll spend $250 on a couple of cvs 
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monley

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 Posted: Sun Jan 15, 2012 9:46 am |
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Here's a bit of info about running sierra cv's in a jimny....
Quote: Bugsta wrote:
I have Sierra CV's with Manual hubs. The Sierra Stub axles are way longer than Jimnys. I got him to make spacers that were 15mm which left about 1/2mm play between the circlip and FWH surface. We also changed from bolts to studs and a finer thread on the outside. Then cones, spring washers and nuts. All High Tensile of course.
With the previous setup... 10mm spacer, cones, washers and bolts, I was breaking bolts all the time. Partly because the holes in the spacers were oversize and that allowed movement. The new setup is very tight tolerance and required the spacer to be tapped on. We also used an automotive glue/sealant on both sides of the spacer and loctite on the inner ends of the studs.
There is nothing to be 'pressed'. The axles slide in and are held in by round edge circlips. I am not sure if standard Jimny axles are the same spline count. I may be able to heck this over the weekend.
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ZookFan
Joined: Mon Feb 14, 2011 6:19 am Posts: 3978 Location: Brisbane,samford,QLD
Vehicle: 92 Sierra Tin Top, 3 X LJ 81's
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Dam that looks horrible bro!
Hope it does not cost too much extra 
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zooky08

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Joined: Fri Nov 27, 2009 10:30 pm Posts: 3426 Location: imbil/gympie. qld
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 Posted: Sun Jan 15, 2012 10:05 am |
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That sounds exspensive monkey but good info
I'm at $1500 for the front diff so no more money is going into it.
Trying to go the cheap way
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ZookFan
Joined: Mon Feb 14, 2011 6:19 am Posts: 3978 Location: Brisbane,samford,QLD
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 Posted: Mon Jan 16, 2012 12:58 am |
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zooky08 wrote: monkey wrote: zooky08 wrote: Were would I source one from, suzistore? Checked eBay but couldn't find any $250 for a 2nd hand one from them...  well they can keep that found one. $64 of eBay. Jimny cv is the same as a 1lt Sierra I'll spend $250 on a couple of cvs  . .. . why would that be??? the jim is a lot heavier than a 1litre zook,, also has a fair bit more powet too..  so why would they go backwards????
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zooky08

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Joined: Fri Nov 27, 2009 10:30 pm Posts: 3426 Location: imbil/gympie. qld
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 Posted: Mon Jan 16, 2012 1:29 am |
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Don't know but cv joint and axles are alot smaller then the 1.3 sierra and far as I read Jimny cv joints are same as 1lt Sierra
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BlueSuzy

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Jimny axles and cv's are tiny. Suzuki took a backward step. Who knows why?
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Fatzook

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BlueSuzy wrote: Jimny axles and cv's are tiny. Suzuki took a backward step. Who knows why?
Because they softened the whole car. Its the way of the future 
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Bugsta
Joined: Fri Oct 30, 2009 10:30 pm Posts: 1754 Location: North Brisbane
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I have repaird many splines and threads just with needle files. Its not an ideal fix, but if there is only a few splines and only a small part of them damaged, its a way of reusing what you have.
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Bugsta
Joined: Fri Oct 30, 2009 10:30 pm Posts: 1754 Location: North Brisbane
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Edit: Not always needle files - depends on the size of the gooves/splines. I keep about 3 sizes of triangle and some others.
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ZookFan
Joined: Mon Feb 14, 2011 6:19 am Posts: 3978 Location: Brisbane,samford,QLD
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Fatzook wrote: BlueSuzy wrote: Jimny axles and cv's are tiny. Suzuki took a backward step. Who knows why? Because they softened the whole car. Its the way of the future 
BANG ON!  even the iconic Defender will be gone by 2017  that leves very few live axled 4x4's left!!!
What's the world coming to 
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dank
Joined: Sat Apr 05, 2008 10:30 pm Posts: 1157 Location: VIC
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 Posted: Mon Jan 16, 2012 9:01 pm |
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Only option will be jeeps!
On another note....so you guys are fitting sierra CVS to Jimny inner axles??
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ZookFan
Joined: Mon Feb 14, 2011 6:19 am Posts: 3978 Location: Brisbane,samford,QLD
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looking that way hey.. sad to say the least! 
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