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stonedpirate
Joined: Mon Dec 28, 2009 10:30 pm Posts: 231 Location: Australia, perth
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 Posted: Sat Jan 28, 2012 11:15 pm |
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Coz I just bought one  A few questions about it. Drove it down from perth and all was good. Took it on the beach today and performed reasonably well. It didnt come with an owners manual so if someone can tell me if there is anything I shouldnt do with 4wd, that would be good. For example, Can I cahnge from 4L to 4H while moving? Second gear works great on 4H but when i change to third, even if i am traveling at 60-70kms at 6000-8000RPM, it slowns sown to the point i have to change back to second. It just doesnt want to be in third or higher on the beach and am guzzling fuel in second. Also, i get the burnt clutch smell every time i work the engine hard, like on boggy sand in 2H in second, revving the shit out of it, start to smell clutch. I put tyres down to 15 psi. Other than that, I have no problems 
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atari4x4

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Joined: Mon Dec 11, 2006 10:30 pm Posts: 34842 Location: East Radelayed
Vehicle: SV420+SV620 Vitara's
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 Posted: Sat Jan 28, 2012 11:19 pm |
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use low range in the sand... around 60kph in 3rd or 4th should have it in the sweet spot! i'm guessing that's what killed the clutch in the Vitara you had. no shifting from 4L to 4H on the move or the other way, not 100% sure with the Jimny's but you should be able to drop into 4H from 2H while on the move... wheels straight ahead & below 60kph. jimny's are less gay than coily's, but gayer than vitara's 
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stonedpirate
Joined: Mon Dec 28, 2009 10:30 pm Posts: 231 Location: Australia, perth
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 Posted: Sat Jan 28, 2012 11:23 pm |
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Cheers Atari.
I was given the opposite advice on the suzuki forum.
They said use 4H on sand and nothing over second gear in 4L coz it burns the clutch.
Is that bs?
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woo603

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Joined: Sun May 01, 2011 5:21 am Posts: 284 Location: Darwin
Vehicle: 2011 Jimny
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It's says in the manual that you can change from 2h to 4h as long as wheels are straight and under 100km but if you want to change to low be stationary.
Clutch is a weak point don't rev it to much in the sand to take off or you'll need to replace the bloody thing soon
Drive to the situation the more you drive on the sand the more you'll work out what is better for the ground your on keep playing and find what works better for you. I tend to be in low on the sand because I prefer low down response.
Jimny aren't gay they are awesome
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Red89
Joined: Tue Jan 12, 2010 10:30 pm Posts: 2801 Location: Perth
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I only ever use 4H for sand unless I'm stuck, but I seem to be in the minority. Drop the tyres to 10 psi at least and see how it goes.
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atari4x4

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Joined: Mon Dec 11, 2006 10:30 pm Posts: 34842 Location: East Radelayed
Vehicle: SV420+SV620 Vitara's
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 Posted: Sat Jan 28, 2012 11:34 pm |
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i've done a lot of sand driving & i call bs... what forum? i gotta join & troll the fuckers  on hard flat sand you can get away with 4h, but anywhere it's soft & starting to load the vehicle up you're better off going back to low range, also there is a fine line between having momentum & too much speed... ask monkey & his banana shape front diff. in the big dunes we have on the SE coast i'll spend the whole weekend in low range, mainly 2nd, 3rd & 4th, starting off in 1st Low with very little wheel spin is the trick, once you have a bit of speed up grab 2nd & try to get the thing up on the "plane" so its not bogging down.
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woo603

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Joined: Sun May 01, 2011 5:21 am Posts: 284 Location: Darwin
Vehicle: 2011 Jimny
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 Posted: Sat Jan 28, 2012 11:36 pm |
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What he said ^^^^^^
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atari4x4

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Joined: Mon Dec 11, 2006 10:30 pm Posts: 34842 Location: East Radelayed
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Red89
Joined: Tue Jan 12, 2010 10:30 pm Posts: 2801 Location: Perth
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/\ You're not wrong  
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atari4x4

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Joined: Mon Dec 11, 2006 10:30 pm Posts: 34842 Location: East Radelayed
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 Posted: Sat Jan 28, 2012 11:50 pm |
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lol, how do i change that...  try this one? http://youtu.be/jQkumdc5EvE
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stonedpirate
Joined: Mon Dec 28, 2009 10:30 pm Posts: 231 Location: Australia, perth
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 Posted: Sat Jan 28, 2012 11:51 pm |
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Good. I didnt enjoy driving in 4H then stopping to go to 4L to get through the exit into the car park that has soft sand. It felt like i was revving high in second all day then changing to 4L whenever i started slowing down due to sand. I thought, jimnys aint so great after all  I'll keep it in 4L in 3rd or 4th and hope my clutch doesnt fry. See if i can find the thread on that other forum which is here: http://www.suzuki-forums.com/forum-index.php
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atari4x4

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Joined: Mon Dec 11, 2006 10:30 pm Posts: 34842 Location: East Radelayed
Vehicle: SV420+SV620 Vitara's
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 Posted: Sat Jan 28, 2012 11:55 pm |
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in low range you shouldn't be using the clutch apart from changing gears & the reduction in low range offers you more torque.
all suzuki's love to rev, they're not a lazy torquey engine like a patrol or a diesel hilux
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stonedpirate
Joined: Mon Dec 28, 2009 10:30 pm Posts: 231 Location: Australia, perth
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 Posted: Sat Jan 28, 2012 11:59 pm |
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Thanks man. Yeah, that all i use the clutch for. I was just refering to advidce not to go fast in 4L if you want to keep your clutch. Cant find that thread 
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monley

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Joined: Wed Nov 24, 2010 7:58 am Posts: 11092 Location: Mandurah.W.A.
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What beach were you driving on? Also let the fuker rev....but just don't got to fast like i did 
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BlueSuzy

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Joined: Sun May 04, 2008 11:30 pm Posts: 9716 Location: NSW
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You shouldnt be burning the clutch! reduce those tyre pressures until its nicer to drive and so the motor isnt working hard. I used to run 10psi with big mud tyres. Surely you can go the same with no problems.
I used high range also, but i had the power and gearing to drive the tyres easy, in 2wd on soft sand..
Jimny's are special.
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zukenutter

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Joined: Sun Feb 08, 2009 10:30 pm Posts: 9045 Location: Brisneyland
Vehicle: 2006 Jimny JLX
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 Posted: Sun Jan 29, 2012 7:16 am |
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Totally agree with Atari, if done right you're clutch shouldn't get any sort of workout. Burning clutch = popping it at revs. HD clutch won't help either.
I tow a camper trailer in soft sand regularly and unless I'm on hard, low tide sand I just leave it in Low and use all five gears. They're close together so you don't have to rev-and-dump.
Suzuki Forum is definitely BS. x2 on wanting to see the thread.
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youda
Joined: Sat Oct 15, 2011 11:44 am Posts: 204 Location: Townsville
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If my clutch was slipping in low 3rd I'd be asking myself if its on the way out already.
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Scrawny

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Joined: Tue Jan 29, 2008 10:30 pm Posts: 10528 Location: Brissie
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youda wrote: If my clutch was slipping in low 3rd I'd be asking myself if its on the way out already. Yes. You shouldn't have any clutch slippage in low range
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shep
Joined: Thu Mar 29, 2007 11:30 pm Posts: 14498 Location: Here there everywhere
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yes they are. 
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Gwagensteve
Joined: Thu Feb 26, 2009 10:30 pm Posts: 13008 Location: Melbourne
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FFS - again - enough with the gay thing. Putting "gay" in every post is far gayer than actually being gay.
PLEASE STOP. You are being an embarrassment to us straight people.
Steve.
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jonno_racing

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Joined: Wed Apr 15, 2009 11:30 pm Posts: 8164 Location: Tassie
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 Posted: Sun Jan 29, 2012 9:08 am |
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imo you shouldnt need to do more than around 60 on the beach... so low range is where its at for nice easy on the car driving.
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ajsr

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Joined: Sun Dec 28, 2008 10:30 pm Posts: 3712 Location: melb
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Gwagensteve wrote: FFS - again - enough with the gay thing. Putting "gay" in every post is far gayer than actually being gay.
PLEASE STOP. You are being an embarrassment to us straight people.
Steve. X2 seems to me you have a serious image problem, are you trying to hide something or convince us your not gay?? just grow some plums and drive what you want and be happy with your choice. 
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jonno_racing

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Joined: Wed Apr 15, 2009 11:30 pm Posts: 8164 Location: Tassie
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ajsr wrote: just grow some plums and drive what you want and be happy with your choice.  i cant believe it but i 100% agree with AJSR here...
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stonedpirate
Joined: Mon Dec 28, 2009 10:30 pm Posts: 231 Location: Australia, perth
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 Posted: Sun Jan 29, 2012 10:24 am |
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this is the last gay thread  Quote: What beach were you driving on? I drove from buffalo beach, past belvidere to the cut. The cut is blocked off by a fence that says no entry, burds are laying or some shit and the sand before the fence is really boggy. I nearly got stuck down there because i didnt know about the fence until i was right in front of it and had to stop in the middle of the beach. Trying to U turn from there wasnt fun  But made it back. Will just use 4L and be happy  4H is too gay for my purposes 
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Benz
Joined: Mon Oct 27, 2008 10:30 pm Posts: 1006 Location: Cervantes WA
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your tyres are too hard.
honestly drop them to 10psi and you will have so much more fun in the sand.
and i would say your clutch is on it's way out... it will still last for a while yet as long as your easy on it.
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superduki
Joined: Thu Nov 05, 2009 10:30 pm Posts: 466 Location: Tasmania
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Red89 wrote: I only ever use 4H for sand unless I'm stuck, but I seem to be in the minority. Drop the tyres to 10 psi at least and see how it goes. Same! Hardly ever stop in high range. If not on the highway, I'm wheelin, so low range for me! even in sand im usually in low set!
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