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Zook_Fan

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Joined: Thu Mar 13, 2008 10:30 pm Posts: 4531 Location: Toowoomba
Vehicle: Maruti and LJ80's
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 Posted: Mon Mar 12, 2012 10:33 am |
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Got to get 2kg of fire extinguisher for a rally event this weekend and was just looking for opinions on whether a single 2kg or 2 1kg extinguishers is better? What's better for accessibility and fire fighting ability. Price doesn't matter, I don't like skipping out on safety, I just want the most efficient set up for fighting a fire.
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Scrawny

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Joined: Tue Jan 29, 2008 10:30 pm Posts: 10528 Location: Brissie
Vehicle: Popemobile
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 Posted: Mon Mar 12, 2012 10:47 am |
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One 2kg should be fine. What do the rules state? There's not a whole lot of difference in size, I can get a photo to compare if you want
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Zook_Fan

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Joined: Thu Mar 13, 2008 10:30 pm Posts: 4531 Location: Toowoomba
Vehicle: Maruti and LJ80's
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 Posted: Mon Mar 12, 2012 10:49 am |
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Rules state you must have a minimum of 2kg of powder in whatever configuration you please. Proper rally cars have 1kg within reach of the driver/navi and another right over the back diff or positioned for optimum weight distribution but mine isn't exactly a highly tuned performance car 
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want33s

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Joined: Fri Nov 16, 2007 10:30 pm Posts: 8134 Location: Sunshine Coast Qld
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 Posted: Mon Mar 12, 2012 12:00 pm |
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I would go a few smaller rather than one large extinguisher. You never know the circmstances under which you (or someone else) will need to access and use it quickly...
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ajsr

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Joined: Sun Dec 28, 2008 10:30 pm Posts: 3712 Location: melb
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 Posted: Mon Mar 12, 2012 12:11 pm |
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x 2 you can never have to much in the way of fire prevention
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Scrawny

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Joined: Tue Jan 29, 2008 10:30 pm Posts: 10528 Location: Brissie
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 Posted: Mon Mar 12, 2012 12:21 pm |
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want33s wrote: I would go a few smaller rather than one large extinguisher. Why? If its a size thing there's bugger all in it. I'm just curious
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SierraDan

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Joined: Fri Feb 04, 2011 10:55 pm Posts: 9348 Location: Newcastle
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 Posted: Mon Mar 12, 2012 12:26 pm |
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One person can grab an extinguisher from one side of the car, another person can get one from the other.
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fire60
Joined: Sat Oct 16, 2010 2:02 am Posts: 96 Location: Wellington NZ
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 Posted: Mon Mar 12, 2012 12:30 pm |
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You will be better off with one larger extinguisher (2-2.5 Kg) rather than several smaller ones (1 Kg)
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ajsr

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Joined: Sun Dec 28, 2008 10:30 pm Posts: 3712 Location: melb
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 Posted: Mon Mar 12, 2012 12:40 pm |
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yeah but if the bit thats on fire is where your extingisher is like my cabin fire was how do you get the 1 extingisher you have
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stockman

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Joined: Thu Nov 05, 2009 10:30 pm Posts: 5319 Location: Canberra
Vehicle: 4wd
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 Posted: Mon Mar 12, 2012 12:45 pm |
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So two larger ones sounds like the go.
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fire60
Joined: Sat Oct 16, 2010 2:02 am Posts: 96 Location: Wellington NZ
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If the fire is so big that you can't get your extinguisher, it is most likely way out of control!
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skyman
Joined: Wed Nov 17, 2010 2:06 pm Posts: 1328 Location: Yakima, wa (us)
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 Posted: Mon Mar 12, 2012 12:54 pm |
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I agree. One in reach of the driver, and one in reach for the passenger, or someone outside of the vehicle.
I know you probably already know but,(but for those who don't) when you have a dead short in the electrical system, a fire extinguisher won't put it out, nor do any good. A power shut off switch, or poer key is always a good idea if you do not have one already.
The only way to stop that kind of electrical fire is to cut the power, or let the lead finally burn apart (if it ever will).
My friend had a huge 1 or 2 gauge wire pinch in his seat hinge, and I had the privilege of watching the fire start up over and over again, until the main battery lead was cut. The entire length had welded itself to the floor pan of the pickup,
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Zook_Fan

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Joined: Thu Mar 13, 2008 10:30 pm Posts: 4531 Location: Toowoomba
Vehicle: Maruti and LJ80's
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 Posted: Mon Mar 12, 2012 2:26 pm |
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Skyman yeah I do know that all too well. My sierra burn out similar to ASJR's and Shep's in late 2009, a shut off switch is to be installed before the event.
I went out and got a 2kg and another 1kg. I'll have the 2kg mounted to the back of the cage on the passenger side, a 1kg mounted within my reach in the drivers seat and a 1kg mounted at the rear of the vehicle so no matter which direction you are coming to the car it shouldn't be hard to grab one.
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Scrawny

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Joined: Tue Jan 29, 2008 10:30 pm Posts: 10528 Location: Brissie
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 Posted: Mon Mar 12, 2012 3:15 pm |
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What kind of car are we talking about here ZF?
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ajsr

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Joined: Sun Dec 28, 2008 10:30 pm Posts: 3712 Location: melb
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 Posted: Mon Mar 12, 2012 3:20 pm |
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Zook_Fan wrote: Skyman yeah I do know that all too well. My sierra burn out similar to ASJR's and Shep's in late 2009, a shut off switch is to be installed before the event.
I went out and got a 2kg and another 1kg. I'll have the 2kg mounted to the back of the cage on the passenger side, a 1kg mounted within my reach in the drivers seat and a 1kg mounted at the rear of the vehicle so no matter which direction you are coming to the car it shouldn't be hard to grab one. I think this is a good plan
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buzbox
Joined: Thu Jul 16, 2009 11:30 pm Posts: 3600 Location: Wollongong NSW
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 Posted: Mon Mar 12, 2012 4:12 pm |
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Ask Shep what he recomends... now that he's a firey of course.  I've got a 1kg mounted on the back door along with a fire blanket. The reason of mounting it on the door is, space available, chances are a fire will happen when I'm cooking and the door is usually open whilst I do as the speakers are also on the back door. As for competitions, You'd want one that the navi or yourself can grab easily. I'd say have 2-3 1kg. 1Kg usually does the trick for extinguishing and if the car sets on fire you'd want more than one person trying to stop it. So having that extra at hand would allow someone else to assist.
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skyman
Joined: Wed Nov 17, 2010 2:06 pm Posts: 1328 Location: Yakima, wa (us)
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 Posted: Mon Mar 12, 2012 5:53 pm |
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Fire blankets are an excellent idea too.
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Zook_Fan

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Joined: Thu Mar 13, 2008 10:30 pm Posts: 4531 Location: Toowoomba
Vehicle: Maruti and LJ80's
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 Posted: Mon Mar 12, 2012 7:15 pm |
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Scrawn wrote: What kind of car are we talking about here ZF? My soft top sierra 
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buzbox
Joined: Thu Jul 16, 2009 11:30 pm Posts: 3600 Location: Wollongong NSW
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 Posted: Mon Mar 12, 2012 7:31 pm |
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skyman wrote: Fire blankets are an excellent idea too. But only good for a camping scenario, or if your mate spontaneously combusts.
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Hybrid

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Joined: Mon Apr 21, 2008 11:30 pm Posts: 1095 Location: Bulimba, Brisbane
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 Posted: Tue Mar 13, 2012 7:48 am |
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I wonder if it would be worthwhile getting two types. As in one suited for oil/fuel the other for electrical. Or do they specify it has to be an AB(E) powder etc?
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Zook_Fan

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Joined: Thu Mar 13, 2008 10:30 pm Posts: 4531 Location: Toowoomba
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 Posted: Tue Mar 13, 2012 10:40 am |
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Has to be AB(E) Powder. You can run as much as you want of other stuff but just have to have at least 2kg of powder.
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