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Author:  experament-u2 [ Wed Mar 14, 2012 2:03 pm ]
Post subject:  G16b troubles no spark

I have searched but I haven't found much that can help
I am having trouble getting my new 1.6 to start, it turns over, has fuel but no spark.
I get 12v at the coil when ignition is on but only 0.6v at the dizzy

Any ideas?

Author:  JrZook [ Wed Mar 14, 2012 2:15 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: G16b troubles no spark

Has fuel? So the fuel pump primes for a few seconds then turns off until you start cranking again? Fuel injectors pulse when cranking?

Author:  experament-u2 [ Wed Mar 14, 2012 4:29 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: G16b troubles no spark

Fuel pump primes, and I get a constant 12v at the injectors that drops a little on cranking

Author:  JrZook [ Wed Mar 14, 2012 5:13 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: G16b troubles no spark

That tells me you are possibly not getting injection pulses either. Do you have a node light you can test for injection pulses? If you don't have them, you also have no fuel and this is most likely due to an ignition pickup problem. Is it just a vit G16B with the coil on the firewall?

Author:  experament-u2 [ Wed Mar 14, 2012 5:36 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: G16b troubles no spark

i dont have a node light, but yes g16b out of a vit with a dizzy and the coil on the fire wall

Author:  BrumbyBoy [ Wed Mar 14, 2012 7:30 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: G16b troubles no spark

do these have points or electronic ignition?

Author:  want33s [ Wed Mar 14, 2012 8:01 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: G16b troubles no spark

BrumbyBoy wrote:
do these have points or electronic ignition?


Suzuki haven't used points in cars since 1984.

Author:  experament-u2 [ Wed Mar 14, 2012 10:56 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: G16b troubles no spark

JrZook wrote:
That tells me you are possibly not getting injection pulses either. Do you have a node light you can test for injection pulses? If you don't have them, you also have no fuel and this is most likely due to an ignition pickup problem. Is it just a vit G16B with the coil on the firewall?


i dont know much about injector pulses, or ignition pickup could you point me in the right direction to check it? eg like could it potentualy be a earthing problem or something back at the ecu?

Author:  JrZook [ Thu Mar 15, 2012 10:11 am ]
Post subject:  Re: G16b troubles no spark

Do you have a pic of the dizzy? I assume this engine has been transplanted into a sierra and you did the wiring yourself? Dizzy should have 2 wires coming off it and going to the ECU. Check these carefully. It would also be worth while getting a node light to confirm weather or not you have injection pulses. This will tell you if the comp is actually getting a pickup signal from the dizzy or not.

Author:  experament-u2 [ Thu Mar 15, 2012 11:03 am ]
Post subject:  Re: G16b troubles no spark

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i have already checked and traced the wires from the dizzy back to the ECU, red goes to pin B3 and white to B16

Author:  experament-u2 [ Thu Mar 15, 2012 2:15 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: G16b troubles no spark

I used a test light (not sure if works like a noid light) and got nothing at the injector plugs, I tried a multimeter and it looks like I'm not getting power there either :(

Author:  experament-u2 [ Sun Mar 18, 2012 4:49 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: G16b troubles no spark

Problem solved, I went back and checked the loom and by chance when I reinstalled the loom I had the igniter hanging and noticed it was sparking to the body, turns out it needs to be grounded. I now have a spark and injector pulses. Thanks everyone for the help

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