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Author:  bozzaa [ Tue Apr 17, 2012 4:48 pm ]
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Hey guys,

just picked myself up a beauty for $1200 bucks. She has 160,000 and is an 85 1.3 in mint condition, no rust. I am looking to put in a proven, capable, high flex suspension system, that will not have me eating rice for 6 months. I was going to put the calmini 5" lift in with hilux diffs, but thought before getting excited and jumping in I should get some opinions off the people whom have done alot of trial and error. i assume that there are a few setups which you guys can all agree works. I am looking for height and width, and a bit of cutting and welding isnt too much stress, as I have an mechanical engineer on hand whom owes me some favours. I am not looking to do a full rockhopping comp truck setup, but do want something seriously capable as a weekender, and i would like to do it right the first time. Or do i just got with the off the shelf calmini kit?

any info, or links to threads would be great.

Author:  atari4x4 [ Tue Apr 17, 2012 4:51 pm ]
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don't waste you money on the calmini kit for a sierra....

Author:  SierraDan [ Tue Apr 17, 2012 4:54 pm ]
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You won't need hilux diffs unless you want a rockhopping comp truck in my opinion.

A 2" lift with rear springs in the front will get it flexing nicely.
Some bumpstop spacers or guard chop will get 31's working very well.
Some 5.14 or 6.5 ratio reduction gears, chromo front axles, front and rear locked.

You will go everywhere just shy of climbing a tree and still be very drive able as a daily.

Author:  Scrawny [ Tue Apr 17, 2012 6:34 pm ]
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85 or 95?

Author:  JrZook [ Tue Apr 17, 2012 6:36 pm ]
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Scrawn wrote:
85 or 95?


By looking at the grill and metal flares it seems early 90's to me.

Author:  stockman [ Tue Apr 17, 2012 7:13 pm ]
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89-93or94 used that grill with metal flares. Late 94 on went to the grill with the S badge.\

Either way, it's very neat!

Author:  bozzaa [ Tue Apr 17, 2012 7:14 pm ]
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i just checked the reg. she actually says 88

Author:  bozzaa [ Tue Apr 17, 2012 7:17 pm ]
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SierraDan wrote:
You won't need hilux diffs unless you want a rockhopping comp truck in my opinion.

A 2" lift with rear springs in the front will get it flexing nicely.
Some bumpstop spacers or guard chop will get 31's working very well.
Some 5.14 or 6.5 ratio reduction gears, chromo front axles, front and rear locked.

You will go everywhere just shy of climbing a tree and still be very drive able as a daily.


is a 2" lift seriously all thats needed? if thats the case, then what shocks etc do i go for? is it worth doing the 2" body lift?

Author:  MacDaddy [ Tue Apr 17, 2012 7:37 pm ]
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Wow, what an awesome find, and so cheap ! 8O

SierraDan wrote:
You won't need hilux diffs unless you want a rockhopping comp truck in my opinion.

A 2" lift with rear springs in the front will get it flexing nicely.
Some bumpstop spacers or guard chop will get 31's working very well.
Some 5.14 or 6.5 ratio reduction gears, chromo front axles, front and rear locked.

You will go everywhere just shy of climbing a tree and still be very drive able as a daily.


X 2
Agree with SierraDan... :D

Author:  SierraDan [ Tue Apr 17, 2012 7:38 pm ]
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I run the commodore wagon shocks in the front and rancho(gay) shocks in the rear but they are the same length as hiace shocks.
a 2" lift is seriously all thats needed. There isn't a need for anymore lift/SPOA unless you're going 35's+ and thats going into hilux diffs, wheelbase extension blah blah.
Dont do a body lift unless you havent got any fab skills and want 33's.

Author:  bozzaa [ Tue Apr 17, 2012 7:45 pm ]
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hey mate thanks for all the help. im an amature, i will be buying the parts and handing them to my mrs old cheese haha. therefore will any year commodore/hiace shocks do?, what leaf spring mods will i need to do.

again thanks for the help

Author:  GRPABT1 [ Tue Apr 17, 2012 8:27 pm ]
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A body lift is good if big tyres 33"+ is what you want, that and some guard cutting and massaging. Twin lock it with chromo's up front and you'll embarrass most trucks out there.

As someone who has the calmini kit and spent years fixing and tweaking all it's failures I can't recommend it. The shackle reversal is a good idea in my opinion but does require some extra thought and work than just bolt in, and the sky manufacturing one available on lowrange may be a better proposition considering Calmini's lack of thought in their kit.

Author:  xedent [ Tue Apr 17, 2012 8:34 pm ]
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I find that my 1.5" Old man emu suspention with Commodore/hiace shock Combo works very well!

Author:  2stroker [ Tue Apr 17, 2012 9:54 pm ]
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If it is a 1988 then it should have plastic flares and should have 3.9 NT diff ratio instead of 3.7 WT ratio, however the pic looks like metal flares so maybe its a bitsa.

Author:  abclarke [ Tue Apr 17, 2012 10:13 pm ]
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2stroker wrote:
If it is a 1988 then it should have plastic flares and should have 3.9 NT diff ratio instead of 3.7 WT ratio, however the pic looks like metal flares so maybe its a bitsa.


Prob same as mine then :lol:

Author:  bozzaa [ Wed Apr 18, 2012 5:36 am ]
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Would anyone be able to trlll me what year hiace and Commodore shocks to run and if there is any brand I shoumd be getting. ? Also are theironman 2" lift springs ok? Thanks again

Author:  MacDaddy [ Wed Apr 18, 2012 5:48 am ]
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bozzaa wrote:
Would anyone be able to trlll me what year hiace and Commodore shocks to run and if there is any brand I shoumd be getting. ? Also are theironman 2" lift springs ok? Thanks again


I have had 35mm ironman springs in my GV for 2 years, never had a problem, only going to a tough dog spring now, because i want more firmer springs with more load rating... :D

Author:  dank [ Wed Apr 18, 2012 1:01 pm ]
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You can't compare coils and leaf springs.

ironman are rubbish. They ride super hard and take a long time to settle in. If you want anything half decent i can supply EFS springs in 50mm lift or Desert Fox which also ride really nicely and give 50mm lift. PM with your location if you want a price.

If you want rears all round I can do this as well. You don't have to buy matching shocks, i'd go good leaves first then measure up the flex you have and buy matched length shocks to suit.

Author:  bozzaa [ Wed Apr 18, 2012 1:42 pm ]
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Cheers mate pm sent. Again if anyone can tell me what year commodor wagon and hiace van I cab source shocks from that would be great as I want to get them asap. Also any brand in particular?

Author:  GRPABT1 [ Wed Apr 18, 2012 5:18 pm ]
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2stroker wrote:
If it is a 1988 then it should have plastic flares and should have 3.9 NT diff ratio instead of 3.7 WT ratio, however the pic looks like metal flares so maybe its a bitsa.


Mine is a 1988 WT with big flanges, metal flares, and 3.7's

Author:  GRPABT1 [ Wed Apr 18, 2012 5:20 pm ]
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dank wrote:
You can't compare coils and leaf springs.

ironman are rubbish. They ride super hard and take a long time to settle in. If you want anything half decent i can supply EFS springs in 50mm lift or Desert Fox which also ride really nicely and give 50mm lift. PM with your location if you want a price.

If you want rears all round I can do this as well. You don't have to buy matching shocks, i'd go good leaves first then measure up the flex you have and buy matched length shocks to suit.


Really? I just bought 1 iron man leaf pack for some shuffling of leaves to fix lean and they looked not to bad, main leaf was a bit short though.

Author:  zukenutter [ Wed Apr 18, 2012 6:05 pm ]
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abclarke wrote:
2stroker wrote:
If it is a 1988 then it should have plastic flares and should have 3.9 NT diff ratio instead of 3.7 WT ratio, however the pic looks like metal flares so maybe its a bitsa.


Prob same as mine then :lol:


Yeah I noticed the metal flares and would say its build date would be second half of '88

Author:  2stroker [ Wed Apr 18, 2012 6:44 pm ]
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Yep that's why people talk about 88.5, it is the change over year so sometime after the middle of 1988 they had all the later model WT parts incorporated .

Author:  Mattmorgo [ Wed Apr 18, 2012 7:13 pm ]
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bozzaa wrote:
Cheers mate pm sent. Again if anyone can tell me what year commodor wagon and hiace van I cab source shocks from that would be great as I want to get them asap. Also any brand in particular?



Rear Commodore Wagon Shocks Gabriel 81340
Front Hiace Shocks Gabriel 81147

Author:  bozzaa [ Wed Apr 18, 2012 7:19 pm ]
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Mattmorgo wrote:
bozzaa wrote:
Cheers mate pm sent. Again if anyone can tell me what year commodor wagon and hiace van I cab source shocks from that would be great as I want to get them asap. Also any brand in particular?



Rear Commodore Wagon Shocks Gabriel 81340
Front Hiace Shocks Gabriel 81147



cheers

Author:  Trypt [ Sun Apr 22, 2012 6:10 pm ]
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Should the commy/hiace shocks only be used with lifted springs?

Author:  bozzaa [ Mon Apr 23, 2012 8:43 pm ]
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mate i just fitted some today. they fit ok, but i imagine they need a lift to perform better, as the fronts bottom out quite easily

Author:  JrZook [ Mon Apr 23, 2012 9:31 pm ]
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What bottoms out? Hope your shocks are not bottoming out before it hits the bumpstops! If so you will need to extend the bumpstops before you destroy your shocks and or mounts

Author:  bozzaa [ Tue Apr 24, 2012 5:27 pm ]
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hey guys, might be a stupid question, but does this setup mean shes a widetrack? if so can someone tell me where i can get info on doing a ruf for a widetrack


cheers,

Author:  bozzaa [ Sat Jun 02, 2012 12:19 pm ]
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I have just got some hyundai x3 brake lines for her. I realised that the rears did not seem long enough so i only purchased fronts. Can anyone tell me what brake lines off another car will be suitable for the rear to give some nice extra length?

cheers

( I have bought a shit load of parts for her, all ready to go in, including a ruf setup to go in over the next few weeks. will do a build thread once roadworthy is done).

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