JrZook wrote:
yelozuki:
What are the specs on your rig atm?
What are the specs on your rig atm?
Good question, cos one min were talking about getting more flex out of the rear then were talking about ruf
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| Author: | yelozuki [ Wed Jan 30, 2013 7:45 pm ] |
| Post subject: | More flex for rear of leafy |
I was wondering what mods i can do to make the rear of my zook flex better. Down travel is the main concern but i dont want climax shackles. Is there anything like tuf but for the rears. Any links wpuld be help full, thanks in advance |
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| Author: | pezz [ Wed Jan 30, 2013 7:55 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: More flex for rear of leafy |
im guessing you mean r.u.f you could just relocate your shackle hanger to get the desired shackle angle |
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| Author: | yelozuki [ Thu Jan 31, 2013 6:19 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: More flex for rear of leafy |
Yeah ruf. Would i have to get extended shackles for that? |
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| Author: | want33s [ Thu Jan 31, 2013 7:06 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: More flex for rear of leafy |
yelozuki wrote: Yeah ruf. Would i have to get extended shackles for that? There are probably more threads on doing a RUF than any other subject here. Have you ever used the search function? Longer rear springs, longer shocks and repositioning of the shackle mounts will gain travel. |
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| Author: | tanshi [ Thu Jan 31, 2013 7:51 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: More flex for rear of leafy |
CJ jeep springs, mazda springs. anything longer will work. |
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| Author: | yelozuki [ Thu Jan 31, 2013 7:56 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: More flex for rear of leafy |
Front or rear cj springs and do i need lifted ones or normal as i have 2 inch lifted ones now |
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| Author: | tanshi [ Thu Jan 31, 2013 8:20 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: More flex for rear of leafy |
front springs of a cj7. lifted will be longer, but might be too high. |
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| Author: | JrZook [ Thu Jan 31, 2013 9:55 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: More flex for rear of leafy |
want33s wrote: Longer rear springs, longer shocks and repositioning of the shackle mounts will gain travel. This is pretty much all the info you need. If you understand what is happening or required for a RUF then you will be able to work out what is required for the rear end. Time to get ya tape measure out! |
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| Author: | evski [ Thu Jan 31, 2013 4:40 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: More flex for rear of leafy |
I ordered a set of front CJ springs from Tony at usa 4x4 in Melb for around $280 shipped, and some 3in longer shackles from LROR for $100 which allowed for the whole set-up to bolt straight in. Sits about 2.5in higher than stock with all leafs in the pack, however I recommend taking the longest spring (not the primary or main) out from the pack so it sits a bit lower and rides/flex's better. While the long ass shackle isnt ideal for departure angle or road handling, it's going to provide more down travel, and allowed for a bolt in set-up. This combined with RUF will be a pretty sweet set-up for me, and once the Baleno motor goes in, I look forward to testing it out. I do feel that with this set-up, raised springs (rears) in the front will be better suited than the stocks, as the suzuki items seem really soft. But I'm still yet to drop a leaf from the CJ springs yet, and if your running a light truck, it will work great. Oh, Im not sure at this stage if the diff will hit the fuel tank, as I suspect it will. But I'm running a different tank so will be making the mounts to suit.That extra 1.5in of wheelbase is very handy in the rear. |
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| Author: | Fatzook [ Thu Jan 31, 2013 5:45 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: More flex for rear of leafy |
evski wrote: .That extra 1.5in of wheelbase is very handy in the rear. 1.5" extension would be FAR better in the front. |
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| Author: | SierraDan [ Thu Jan 31, 2013 5:50 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: More flex for rear of leafy |
A combo of both would be good. 2.5" in the front on my old one was good. An extra 1.5" in the rear would be nice. |
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| Author: | joeblow [ Thu Jan 31, 2013 6:27 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: More flex for rear of leafy |
Some weight. |
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| Author: | Built4thrashing [ Thu Jan 31, 2013 6:37 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: More flex for rear of leafy |
OK he's asking about more rear flex so forget the RUF talk. On the rear you can move the top mounts for your shocks inwards. This allows you to run longer shocks which will allow for more travel. This is just the start. Next you may need to remove a leaf, put in longer shackles, tailshaft spacers, move exhaust tailpipe and adjust the handbrake cable brackets. Stay away from drop shackles, those things are dangerous. |
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| Author: | Gwagensteve [ Thu Jan 31, 2013 6:44 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: More flex for rear of leafy |
Obvious question - why do you think you need more rear travel? More rear travel is a bit of a poisoned chalice. The most critical time you need to get the car to balance is whilst climbing, at which point the best thing you can do to make the car feel balanced is to stop the rear flexing, because when the car is on a compound angle, rear flex will make the car want to flop over. We've had a number of cars in the club down here with stuff all rear travel/flex and there's absolutely nothing wrong with their performance offroad. Steve. |
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| Author: | BlueSuzy [ Thu Jan 31, 2013 7:49 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: More flex for rear of leafy |
A locker will get you further than rear flex atm. Oh look, i has one here for you! |
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| Author: | tazmanier [ Thu Jan 31, 2013 10:38 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: More flex for rear of leafy |
joeblow wrote: Some weight. Jo has the easiest mod thus far. I now carry 20l of fuel and 20l of water in the back as far back as i can. does nothing for down travel but. only make the compressed spring compress more (and speed humps bearable) |
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| Author: | KEENSY85 [ Fri Feb 01, 2013 12:05 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: More flex for rear of leafy |
Mixed leaf's u can tune ur springs flex and stiffness |
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| Author: | JrZook [ Fri Feb 01, 2013 3:00 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: More flex for rear of leafy |
yelozuki: What are the specs on your rig atm? |
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| Author: | KEENSY85 [ Fri Feb 01, 2013 3:18 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: More flex for rear of leafy |
JrZook wrote: yelozuki: What are the specs on your rig atm? Good question, cos one min were talking about getting more flex out of the rear then were talking about ruf
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| Author: | want33s [ Fri Feb 01, 2013 3:54 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: More flex for rear of leafy |
KEENSY85 wrote: Good question, cos one min were talking about getting more flex out of the rear then were talking about ruf If you knew what was involved in a RUF you would understand the relevance of it being mentioned in relation to the rear. The process of gaining more artic via longer springs is the same front as rear. |
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| Author: | ajsr [ Fri Feb 01, 2013 5:04 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: More flex for rear of leafy |
flex is over rated |
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| Author: | KEENSY85 [ Sat Feb 02, 2013 7:38 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: More flex for rear of leafy |
 Oh that's right RUF that's what dogs do oh my bad  
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| Author: | SierraDan [ Sat Feb 02, 2013 11:15 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: More flex for rear of leafy |
What.. |
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| Author: | JrZook [ Sat Feb 02, 2013 11:39 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: More flex for rear of leafy |
KEENSY found the crack again.... |
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| Author: | atari4x4 [ Sat Feb 02, 2013 11:50 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: More flex for rear of leafy |
even this girly coil sprung IFS vitara owner understands the relevance of the theory behind RUF being used to put in a longer spring that works in the rear to gain more flex. 
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| Author: | sideways [ Sun Feb 03, 2013 12:54 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: More flex for rear of leafy |
I'd rather narrow the spring spacing than fit longer springs. |
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| Author: | JrZook [ Sun Feb 03, 2013 1:13 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: More flex for rear of leafy |
And why so? |
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| Author: | KEENSY85 [ Sun Feb 03, 2013 7:19 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: More flex for rear of leafy |
Hey I understand about fitting longer springs ,I was just emotional (a little tippsy ) and took ofence to want 33s post about ruf. But no one actual said "oh u mean the same principle as ruf but in the rear "that's all I was saying about us jumping around topic my bad sorry for being a dick |
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| Author: | Gwagensteve [ Sun Feb 03, 2013 8:01 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: More flex for rear of leafy |
JrZook wrote: And why so? Reduced roll stiffness and more articulation without any effect on axlewrap or spring rate. Steve. |
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| Author: | boostedbrick [ Sun Feb 03, 2013 10:42 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: More flex for rear of leafy |
Why don't people like flex? My bucket was more capable/balanced unlocked on 235's with heaps of flex than it was single locked on 31's with really crap flex. It didn't flop as often with the extra travel... |
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