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klutched

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Joined: Wed May 16, 2012 3:46 pm Posts: 1691 Location: Brisbane
Vehicle: 99 Grand Vitara
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 Posted: Sun Jun 02, 2013 4:20 pm |
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Ughhh, went wheeling today at glasshouse and now my transfer is stuck in 2/4wd not sure. It will not budge  i think its time for a replacement but not sure if it'll be fixable  Cheers
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KEENSY85
Joined: Wed May 09, 2012 12:46 am Posts: 1742 Location: north brisbane
Vehicle: 1985 lwb sierra UTE
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Built4thrashing
Joined: Wed May 21, 2008 11:30 pm Posts: 4972 Location: Dandenong .Vic
Vehicle: 1999 GV. Locked and Lifted
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 Posted: Sun Jun 02, 2013 7:12 pm |
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klutched wrote: Ughhh, went wheeling today at glasshouse and now my transfer is stuck in 2/4wd not sure. It will not budge  i think its time for a replacement but not sure if it'll be fixable  Cheers You will have to get the shifter out and re-align the shift pins as they will be out of position. Quite a common problem for sierra's. Happends to GV's and Vits sometimes.
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klutched

az supporter
Joined: Wed May 16, 2012 3:46 pm Posts: 1691 Location: Brisbane
Vehicle: 99 Grand Vitara
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 Posted: Sun Jun 02, 2013 9:23 pm |
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Would that cause it to make a grinding kind if noise aswell?
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atari4x4

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Joined: Mon Dec 11, 2006 10:30 pm Posts: 34842 Location: East Radelayed
Vehicle: SV420+SV620 Vitara's
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 Posted: Sun Jun 02, 2013 9:30 pm |
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Built4thrashing
Joined: Wed May 21, 2008 11:30 pm Posts: 4972 Location: Dandenong .Vic
Vehicle: 1999 GV. Locked and Lifted
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 Posted: Mon Jun 03, 2013 7:40 am |
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Yeh........ Mine wasnt grinding...... As in the video it was like a bom going off under the car when the transfer got loaded up.
The issue was the input bearing in the t/case was worn and was allowing the gears to push apart under load and skip teeth.
Was easier and cheaper to just replace t/case.
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klutched

az supporter
Joined: Wed May 16, 2012 3:46 pm Posts: 1691 Location: Brisbane
Vehicle: 99 Grand Vitara
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 Posted: Mon Jun 03, 2013 7:53 am |
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I'm trying to upload a video now of me wheeling yesterday with the noise :/
EDIT: anyone know if a manual transfer will fit on the auto? Hopefully I won't need to replace the transfer though....
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Built4thrashing
Joined: Wed May 21, 2008 11:30 pm Posts: 4972 Location: Dandenong .Vic
Vehicle: 1999 GV. Locked and Lifted
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 Posted: Mon Jun 03, 2013 8:04 am |
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No they wont. The input shafts are different lengths.
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Built4thrashing
Joined: Wed May 21, 2008 11:30 pm Posts: 4972 Location: Dandenong .Vic
Vehicle: 1999 GV. Locked and Lifted
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 Posted: Mon Jun 03, 2013 8:07 am |
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You need to get a t/case from a manual GV. Doesnt matter the year but it has to be off the same box.
XL7 manual ones are no good either. try to get the lowest KM one you can from 02 on wards .
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klutched

az supporter
Joined: Wed May 16, 2012 3:46 pm Posts: 1691 Location: Brisbane
Vehicle: 99 Grand Vitara
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 Posted: Mon Jun 03, 2013 8:11 am |
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whatttt?? You said they won't fit but get a manual one? I have an auto so I need an auto transfer case?
Also why 02+? Are they stronger?
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Built4thrashing
Joined: Wed May 21, 2008 11:30 pm Posts: 4972 Location: Dandenong .Vic
Vehicle: 1999 GV. Locked and Lifted
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 Posted: Mon Jun 03, 2013 1:56 pm |
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klutched wrote: whatttt?? You said they won't fit but get a manual one? I have an auto so I need an auto transfer case?
Also why 02+? Are they stronger? OOps My bad. You will need an Auto one for your AUTO. I say get a 02+ as there was a recall on early 99-01 GV's to do with something in the transfer. Most should have been fixed but better to get a later one just to be on the safe side.
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fordem
Joined: Mon Apr 19, 2010 11:30 pm Posts: 2656 Location: Georgetown, Guyana
Vehicle: APK416, A6G415, A6N415
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 Posted: Mon Jun 03, 2013 10:09 pm |
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There was a redesign on one of the gears to fix a problem with the transfer case jumping from 4H back to 2H - I don't remember there being a recall though
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atari4x4

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Joined: Mon Dec 11, 2006 10:30 pm Posts: 34842 Location: East Radelayed
Vehicle: SV420+SV620 Vitara's
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 Posted: Mon Jun 03, 2013 10:15 pm |
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klutched

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Joined: Wed May 16, 2012 3:46 pm Posts: 1691 Location: Brisbane
Vehicle: 99 Grand Vitara
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 Posted: Tue Jun 04, 2013 3:00 pm |
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Is this the shifter pin? Where should it be for 2wd? 
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klutched

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Joined: Wed May 16, 2012 3:46 pm Posts: 1691 Location: Brisbane
Vehicle: 99 Grand Vitara
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 Posted: Tue Jun 04, 2013 5:19 pm |
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Chop

az supporter
Joined: Sat Aug 12, 2006 11:30 pm Posts: 6456 Location: Radelaide ofcourse!
Vehicle: Suzuki GV 03/ 2010 DDIS NGV
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 Posted: Tue Jun 04, 2013 7:09 pm |
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Yep keep trying to climb the hill the noise will go away 
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atari4x4

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Joined: Mon Dec 11, 2006 10:30 pm Posts: 34842 Location: East Radelayed
Vehicle: SV420+SV620 Vitara's
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 Posted: Tue Jun 04, 2013 7:21 pm |
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Chop wrote: Yep keep trying to climb the hill the noise will go away  should have just turned the stezza up & got the beats cranking. are you sure it's the transfer case & not the front diff?
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klutched

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Joined: Wed May 16, 2012 3:46 pm Posts: 1691 Location: Brisbane
Vehicle: 99 Grand Vitara
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 Posted: Tue Jun 04, 2013 7:25 pm |
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Did have to get out of there.... Ended up winching like 10 times.
Yeah atari, i think the noise is the front diff. Not sure what it could be though. It sounded like it was coming from the RHS
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got_bar_work
Joined: Sat May 15, 2010 8:30 pm Posts: 2214 Location: Brisbane
Vehicle: SQ625
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 Posted: Tue Jun 04, 2013 7:30 pm |
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Stick isnt hitting floor at all Sounds like the sliding gear is sliding up to the the other gear and grinding the corners away Might need to open her up and check dont sound to good
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atari4x4

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Joined: Mon Dec 11, 2006 10:30 pm Posts: 34842 Location: East Radelayed
Vehicle: SV420+SV620 Vitara's
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 Posted: Tue Jun 04, 2013 7:32 pm |
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klutched wrote: Did have to get out of there.... Ended up winching like 10 times.
Yeah atari, i think the noise is the front diff. Not sure what it could be though. It sounded like it was coming from the RHS did you use the same guy to put the locker in who built your last diff? what inner CV did you use on the RHS in the end?
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klutched

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Joined: Wed May 16, 2012 3:46 pm Posts: 1691 Location: Brisbane
Vehicle: 99 Grand Vitara
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 Posted: Tue Jun 04, 2013 7:49 pm |
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atari4x4 wrote: klutched wrote: Did have to get out of there.... Ended up winching like 10 times.
Yeah atari, i think the noise is the front diff. Not sure what it could be though. It sounded like it was coming from the RHS did you use the same guy to put the locker in who built your last diff? what inner CV did you use on the RHS in the end? I built the last diff Got a GV one in there.
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atari4x4

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Joined: Mon Dec 11, 2006 10:30 pm Posts: 34842 Location: East Radelayed
Vehicle: SV420+SV620 Vitara's
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 Posted: Tue Jun 04, 2013 7:53 pm |
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and you wonder why the previous one failed.  my bet is the RHS CV circlip isn't engaging in the locker & it has pull out due to the hectik lift you run & the splines are munched on the CV & probably the locker. does the transfer lever move as per normal? have you started investigating it, by pulling shit apart or you're hoping we can diagnose it via a keyboard & screen?
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joeblow
Joined: Sat May 10, 2008 11:30 pm Posts: 3273 Location: melbourne
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 Posted: Tue Jun 04, 2013 8:42 pm |
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Sounds to me like the engaging gear (round thingy that sits on the fork) might be around the wrong way. The are one way only when being installed.
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atari4x4

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Joined: Mon Dec 11, 2006 10:30 pm Posts: 34842 Location: East Radelayed
Vehicle: SV420+SV620 Vitara's
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 Posted: Tue Jun 04, 2013 8:46 pm |
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I don't think he's had the transfercase apart Joe
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ninjamoses

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Joined: Mon Aug 13, 2007 11:30 pm Posts: 1787 Location: Butler, WA
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 Posted: Tue Jun 04, 2013 9:02 pm |
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atari4x4 wrote: my bet is the RHS CV circlip isn't engaging in the locker & it has pull out due to the hectik lift you run & the splines are munched on the CV & probably the locker.
That'd be my guess as well, seems to happen when your front RHS is at droop (hence CV would be extended the most). Would be easy enough to check - is it still pushed in nice and firm to the diff or has it backed out an inch or so? I couldn't go 100m offroad when I was using the GV inner without it working its way out... wouldn't take load to cause carnage if the splines were only just engaging.
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Built4thrashing
Joined: Wed May 21, 2008 11:30 pm Posts: 4972 Location: Dandenong .Vic
Vehicle: 1999 GV. Locked and Lifted
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 Posted: Tue Jun 04, 2013 9:09 pm |
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Do you have diff drop Brackets?
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klutched

az supporter
Joined: Wed May 16, 2012 3:46 pm Posts: 1691 Location: Brisbane
Vehicle: 99 Grand Vitara
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 Posted: Wed Jun 05, 2013 11:59 am |
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atari4x4 wrote: and you wonder why the previous one failed.  my bet is the RHS CV circlip isn't engaging in the locker & it has pull out due to the hectik lift you run & the splines are munched on the CV & probably the locker. GV one doesn't lock in, but it shouldn't be a problem, it doesn't fall out or even come close to it on full droop. Plus Bruce ran GV d/s and p/s axle for 3 yrs and so does b4t i believe.does the transfer lever move as per normal? Haven't looked into it anymore yet, I got the shifter off and I'm guessing that the pin is there? There's the photo ^ of what I'm looking at. Not even sure if it's the pin or not or where it should be :/have you started investigating it, by pulling shit apart or you're hoping we can diagnose it via a keyboard & screen? Front diff is apart nothing wrong in there, splines are all in tact on both locker and CV/axle. Water must have gotten into the housing because the oil was all creammyyyy. My guess was through the breather.Built4thrashing wrote: Do you have diff drop Brackets? Yeah I do So now my diff is all good, i'm going to check my transfer while the diff is out to see if it was the diff causing problems.
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atari4x4

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Joined: Mon Dec 11, 2006 10:30 pm Posts: 34842 Location: East Radelayed
Vehicle: SV420+SV620 Vitara's
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 Posted: Wed Jun 05, 2013 12:16 pm |
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did you plug the old air line in the diff where the line from the pump went?
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klutched

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Joined: Wed May 16, 2012 3:46 pm Posts: 1691 Location: Brisbane
Vehicle: 99 Grand Vitara
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 Posted: Wed Jun 05, 2013 12:27 pm |
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Nah the place where I got it installed blocked it all off for me 
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klutched

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Joined: Wed May 16, 2012 3:46 pm Posts: 1691 Location: Brisbane
Vehicle: 99 Grand Vitara
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 Posted: Thu Jun 06, 2013 11:44 am |
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Fixed it, just had to realign that pin and it's all good now 
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