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tassie jeeper
Joined: Fri Jun 14, 2013 9:39 pm Posts: 246
Vehicle: 1995 2.0V6 Vitara LWB
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 Posted: Sun Sep 22, 2013 11:33 pm |
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i did look honnest so my front diff exploded today time for a steel housing. i did a search but couldnt find what im looking for so... what housing do i need from what model vit? will my cv's and driveshaft fit in gv housing? will my diff center fit in gv housing? what model diff have the 5.12 ratios and what else has to be changed to fit them? cheers in advance tassie.
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klutched

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Joined: Wed May 16, 2012 3:46 pm Posts: 1691 Location: Brisbane
Vehicle: 99 Grand Vitara
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 Posted: Mon Sep 23, 2013 1:08 am |
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You need a steel diff out of a manual GV or 03+ auto i believe. And yes all your diff center, cvs and axle will fit. You'll just need to block off where the actuator pipe went to. Ratios here viewtopic.php?f=17&t=6614
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tassie jeeper
Joined: Fri Jun 14, 2013 9:39 pm Posts: 246
Vehicle: 1995 2.0V6 Vitara LWB
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 Posted: Mon Sep 23, 2013 8:24 am |
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thanks klutched to the wrecking yard and beyond!
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shandy92

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Joined: Tue Nov 25, 2008 10:30 pm Posts: 5066 Location: perth, Australia
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 Posted: Mon Sep 23, 2013 11:32 am |
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tassie jeeper wrote: will my diff center fit in gv housing? you want to use the GV center and housing. everything will swap over, all you need is a 5.12:1 C&P and a GV diff housing and center.
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tassie jeeper
Joined: Fri Jun 14, 2013 9:39 pm Posts: 246
Vehicle: 1995 2.0V6 Vitara LWB
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 Posted: Mon Sep 23, 2013 11:37 am |
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also what is the standard ratio in a 95 2.0L v6 4door estate wagon? they are 4.6? i looked under my diff again in the daylight and the front housing is ok its just the third member that exploded so if i can scrounge up 1 of them that will keep me out of trouble for the time being 
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tassie jeeper
Joined: Fri Jun 14, 2013 9:39 pm Posts: 246
Vehicle: 1995 2.0V6 Vitara LWB
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 Posted: Mon Sep 23, 2013 11:39 am |
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shandy92 wrote: you want to use the GV center and housing. everything will swap over, all you need is a 5.12:1 C&P and a GV diff housing and center. ok so u dont put the 5.1 third into the gv just the ring and pinion?
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shandy92

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Joined: Tue Nov 25, 2008 10:30 pm Posts: 5066 Location: perth, Australia
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 Posted: Mon Sep 23, 2013 11:59 am |
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have a read in here, check out some of the links. viewtopic.php?f=5&t=38607&hilit=steel+GV+diff+swapNo you dont use ur third (its broken) and yes you can run the ally housing but its not worth the risk, if your gears are ok then use them and thats all you will use. Im not 100% sure of what the diff ratio yours come with but either 4.6 or 4.8. there is website that you type what you need into and it send out an email to ALL wreckers. ill try find it but otherwise get ringing.
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tassie jeeper
Joined: Fri Jun 14, 2013 9:39 pm Posts: 246
Vehicle: 1995 2.0V6 Vitara LWB
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 Posted: Mon Sep 23, 2013 12:06 pm |
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shandy92 wrote: have a read in here, check out some of the links. viewtopic.php?f=5&t=38607&hilit=steel+GV+diff+swapNo you dont use ur third (its broken) and yes you can run the ally housing but its not worth the risk, if your gears are ok then use them and thats all you will use. Im not 100% sure of what the diff ratio yours come with but either 4.6 or 4.8. there is website that you type what you need into and it send out an email to ALL wreckers. ill try find it but otherwise get ringing. cheers mate i think my gears will be fine as i was not moving when it broke. i wont use the alloy housing but i am having trouble finding a steel one so thought id just replace my third with a stock untill i find a steel housing and then put 5.1's in it then (did that make any sense? i dont explain myself well) 
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shandy92

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Joined: Tue Nov 25, 2008 10:30 pm Posts: 5066 Location: perth, Australia
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oh ok, yeah that makes sense. but unless its already set up with 5.12's then your doubling your work. But if you find a steel third only without the housing, that can be run. Just have to be cautious.
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atari4x4

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Joined: Mon Dec 11, 2006 10:30 pm Posts: 34843 Location: East Radelayed
Vehicle: SV420+SV620 Vitara's
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 Posted: Mon Sep 23, 2013 1:09 pm |
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PM bigrig91 for cracking deals on steel diffs 
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tassie jeeper
Joined: Fri Jun 14, 2013 9:39 pm Posts: 246
Vehicle: 1995 2.0V6 Vitara LWB
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 Posted: Mon Sep 23, 2013 1:17 pm |
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atari4x4 wrote: PM bigrig91 for cracking deals on steel diffs  for your amusement there are photo's and video's in my rig thread im currently trying to source local parts to save on shipping but will give big a buzz if all else fails 
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Dan85

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shandy92 wrote: have a read in here, check out some of the links. viewtopic.php?f=5&t=38607&hilit=steel+GV+diff+swapNo you dont use ur third (its broken) and yes you can run the ally housing but its not worth the risk, if your gears are ok then use them and thats all you will use. Im not 100% sure of what the diff ratio yours come with but either 4.6 or 4.8. there is website that you type what you need into and it send out an email to ALL wreckers. ill try find it but otherwise get ringing. http://www.findapart.com.au/
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tassie jeeper
Joined: Fri Jun 14, 2013 9:39 pm Posts: 246
Vehicle: 1995 2.0V6 Vitara LWB
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 Posted: Mon Sep 23, 2013 3:25 pm |
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Dan85 wrote: shandy92 wrote: ur third (its broken) and yes you can run the ally housing but its not worth the risk, if your gears are ok then use them and thats all you will use. Im not 100% sure of what the diff ratio yours come with but either 4.6 or 4.8. there is website that you type what you need into and it send out an email to ALL wreckers. ill try find it but otherwise get ringing. http://www.findapart.com.au/cheers for the help guys can anyone tell me if the stock ring and pinion is 4.6 or 4.8? p.s i put a thingy in on that find a part 
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klutched

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Joined: Wed May 16, 2012 3:46 pm Posts: 1691 Location: Brisbane
Vehicle: 99 Grand Vitara
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 Posted: Mon Sep 23, 2013 3:32 pm |
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shandy92 wrote: tassie jeeper wrote: will my diff center fit in gv housing? you want to use the GV center and housing. everything will swap over, all you need is a 5.12:1 C&P and a GV diff housing and center. Why would he want to use the GV center? It won't work... What you'll want to do is get the GV steel diff, strip the R&P and center out, put your vitara center in along with your new 5.12 R&P.
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atari4x4

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Joined: Mon Dec 11, 2006 10:30 pm Posts: 34843 Location: East Radelayed
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_________________ You're just hating because you don't understand
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tassie jeeper
Joined: Fri Jun 14, 2013 9:39 pm Posts: 246
Vehicle: 1995 2.0V6 Vitara LWB
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shandy92

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Joined: Tue Nov 25, 2008 10:30 pm Posts: 5066 Location: perth, Australia
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 Posted: Tue Sep 24, 2013 1:14 pm |
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klutched wrote: shandy92 wrote: tassie jeeper wrote: will my diff center fit in gv housing? you want to use the GV center and housing. everything will swap over, all you need is a 5.12:1 C&P and a GV diff housing and center. Why would he want to use the GV center? It won't work... What you'll want to do is get the GV steel diff, strip the R&P and center out, put your vitara center in along with your new 5.12 R&P. so your saying to use his ally centre (which is actually broken) in the gv steel housing?? hmmm sounds great! would u like me to take a pic of the GRAND VITARA CENTRE AND HOUSING? that is fitted to MY VITARA if he gets the correct yr model it will be EXACTLY the same besides what its made out of and the internals (it has vacuum stuff inside)
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atari4x4

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Joined: Mon Dec 11, 2006 10:30 pm Posts: 34843 Location: East Radelayed
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 Posted: Tue Sep 24, 2013 1:27 pm |
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sounds like you 2 are calling 2 different parts the same thing. 
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shandy92

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Joined: Tue Nov 25, 2008 10:30 pm Posts: 5066 Location: perth, Australia
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 Posted: Tue Sep 24, 2013 1:29 pm |
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possibly. This is what you need, steel housing with the carrier/center or third member bolted to it. 
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klutched

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Joined: Wed May 16, 2012 3:46 pm Posts: 1691 Location: Brisbane
Vehicle: 99 Grand Vitara
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 Posted: Tue Sep 24, 2013 1:35 pm |
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Yes and where's this GV center you need?
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shandy92

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Joined: Tue Nov 25, 2008 10:30 pm Posts: 5066 Location: perth, Australia
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 Posted: Tue Sep 24, 2013 1:38 pm |
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klutched wrote: Yes and where's this GV center you need? carrier/third/centre all the same shizzle!
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atari4x4

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Joined: Mon Dec 11, 2006 10:30 pm Posts: 34843 Location: East Radelayed
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 Posted: Tue Sep 24, 2013 2:42 pm |
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 Gwagensteve breaks it down nicely in another diff thread... I'm on my phone so you noobs can search or confuse the fuck out of the OP.
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shandy92

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Joined: Tue Nov 25, 2008 10:30 pm Posts: 5066 Location: perth, Australia
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Gwagensteve wrote: I'll just outline the individual parts so it's clear what we are talking about. THIS is a diff centre:  THIS is a carrier:  This is a gear set  The whole lot together is generally called a "third member" (unless you are royce, I have no idea what he calls it  ) Yes, third member is an American term but at least it isn't a double up calling an assembly by the name of an individual component. So this is a third member  Steve. ok so going by that, you need the housing and the carrier
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klutched

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Joined: Wed May 16, 2012 3:46 pm Posts: 1691 Location: Brisbane
Vehicle: 99 Grand Vitara
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 Posted: Tue Sep 24, 2013 7:32 pm |
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You got it 
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atari4x4

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Joined: Mon Dec 11, 2006 10:30 pm Posts: 34843 Location: East Radelayed
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tassie jeeper
Joined: Fri Jun 14, 2013 9:39 pm Posts: 246
Vehicle: 1995 2.0V6 Vitara LWB
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atari4x4 wrote: FML im dropping the steel diff for the time being and just going to locate a replacement 3rd member to get it goin again
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atari4x4

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Joined: Mon Dec 11, 2006 10:30 pm Posts: 34843 Location: East Radelayed
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should save that money & get the jeep going. 
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tassie jeeper
Joined: Fri Jun 14, 2013 9:39 pm Posts: 246
Vehicle: 1995 2.0V6 Vitara LWB
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 Posted: Wed Sep 25, 2013 12:32 pm |
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atari4x4 wrote: should save that money & get the jeep going.  thats why im leaving the stock diff in it the more i do to the zook the longer i have to wait to get the jeep goin, i shouldnt have taken it up there in the first place the videos dont do it justice its ROUGH but i just couldnt help myself, i wont be doing it again!
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tassie jeeper
Joined: Fri Jun 14, 2013 9:39 pm Posts: 246
Vehicle: 1995 2.0V6 Vitara LWB
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ok so its come to the point where i need to remove my diff/cv's to get a tooth count before ordering a new third, im only waiting for some decent weather as i will be working outside (shed full of bikes and tools FML).
will i need any special tools for removing the hub's, cv's or diff?
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DarkHorse

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Nup - jacks, spanners, socket set, allen keys, circlip pliers, maybe a hammer/pry bar/other persuading device... nothing too exotic.
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