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weazilyd

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Joined: Thu Oct 28, 2010 4:49 am Posts: 31 Location: Marble Bar
Vehicle: 2012 Suzuki Jimny
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 Posted: Sat Mar 31, 2012 9:51 pm |
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Hey Guys
Just wanted to ask a question.
Ive got a 2012 Jimny and want to know whats the biggest size tyres i cud put on without doing the chop? I'll be installing at least a 3" lift.
Ive scrolled forum but everyone does the suzuki chop, i want to avoid this since the rig is new.
Cheers for any help. Wes
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Mike57

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Joined: Fri Jul 22, 2011 11:09 am Posts: 1009 Location: Melbourne
Vehicle: Suzuki Jimny 2009
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Its not chopping but gearing that is the limiting factor. 215/75/15 is the largest size you would want to go with stock gearing. These also fit without any modifications to bodywork with just a 40mm lift.
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alien
Joined: Wed Mar 24, 2010 10:30 pm Posts: 16343 Location: Perth
Vehicle: '92 Sierra, 1.6efi, SPOA, 31s.
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my cousin runs 215/75r15 BFG KM2 with ZERO lift and no scrubbing... there was a little at the start at the rear of the front guard, but it self-cleared after a while =)
mike57 is correct though - past a 215/75 you'll need to address gearing... and that's not cheap in a jimny.
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monley

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Joined: Wed Nov 24, 2010 7:58 am Posts: 11092 Location: Mandurah.W.A.
Vehicle: 84 LWB NT
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205/75 r15 in a new model jimny... Unless you have a bullbar..
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weazilyd

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Joined: Thu Oct 28, 2010 4:49 am Posts: 31 Location: Marble Bar
Vehicle: 2012 Suzuki Jimny
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Ordering an xrox when im next down in Perth. Ill get the reduction gears once decide on tyres. Reason didnt want to chop is I'm not very handy with a jigsaw and i'll probs bodge it up. Might just take to panel beater haha
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Scales

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Joined: Mon May 30, 2011 9:28 am Posts: 2233 Location: Townsville
Vehicle: 03 Jim M13A no-vvt, Vinyl Spec
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i got 215s and no gearing and loving it. 3" lift arb bar
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zooky08

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Joined: Fri Nov 27, 2009 10:30 pm Posts: 3426 Location: imbil/gympie. qld
Vehicle: 03 Jimny
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i have the exactly the same setup as scales but hate the gearing
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joel
Joined: Wed Jan 27, 2010 10:30 pm Posts: 2191 Location: Dirranbandi
Vehicle: Sj70 tintop
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zooky08 wrote: i have the exactly the same setup as scales but hate the gearing so let me just quarter back this bitch for a second, you went from standard hoops to 215s and you can notice the gearing is shit...... 
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zooky08

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Joined: Fri Nov 27, 2009 10:30 pm Posts: 3426 Location: imbil/gympie. qld
Vehicle: 03 Jimny
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joel wrote: zooky08 wrote: i have the exactly the same setup as scales but hate the gearing so let me just quarter back this bitch for a second, you went from standard hoops to 215s and you can notice the gearing is shit......  jimny gearing is shit to start with 
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joel
Joined: Wed Jan 27, 2010 10:30 pm Posts: 2191 Location: Dirranbandi
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zooky08 wrote: joel wrote: zooky08 wrote: i have the exactly the same setup as scales but hate the gearing so let me just quarter back this bitch for a second, you went from standard hoops to 215s and you can notice the gearing is shit......  jimny gearing is shit to start with  i think your to sensitive to gearing, wait till those huuuuuuuuuge tires wear down 0.0002566963* mm and the gearing will be fine 
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smiffkid

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Joined: Fri Aug 13, 2010 12:55 pm Posts: 3266 Location: perth wa
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I'm running 31s with standard gearing and my car doesn seem to have a problem with gearing unless drivin over big rocks. With m13 u will get away with 235s with out to much drama
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smiffkid

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Joined: Fri Aug 13, 2010 12:55 pm Posts: 3266 Location: perth wa
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I'm running 31s with standard gearing and my car doesn seem to have a problem with gearing unless drivin over big rocks. With m13 u will get away with 235s with out to much drama
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zukenutter

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Joined: Sun Feb 08, 2009 10:30 pm Posts: 9045 Location: Brisneyland
Vehicle: 2006 Jimny JLX
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Everyone has gone gearing crazy but in reality and as drewmouli said 235s and standard gearing are quite drive able in most situations. I used to tow 400kg with standard gears and 235s, just need a bit more patience. That said I love having adjusted gears.
Poor clutch technique/habits off road will see an early clutch death though.
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jordan
Joined: Sun Feb 26, 2012 12:14 pm Posts: 51 Location: perth wa
Vehicle: 08 jimny all stock atm
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im running 225/75/15 tyres on my jimny no lift atm ....... rubs when in hard off road driving the gearing mod's you guys have done to ya jimny how much does it cost ? trying to go up big sand dunes in low range .....wasnt cutting it :/ im gonna go m18vvt befor gearing tho
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monley

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Joined: Wed Nov 24, 2010 7:58 am Posts: 11092 Location: Mandurah.W.A.
Vehicle: 84 LWB NT
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jordan wrote: im running 225/75/15 tyres on my jimny no lift atm ....... rubs when in hard off road driving the gearing mod's you guys have done to ya jimny how much does it cost ? trying to go up big sand dunes in low range .....wasnt cutting it :/ im gonna go m18vvt befor gearing tho Pretty much over a 1k for VVT jimny's....
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weazilyd

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Joined: Thu Oct 28, 2010 4:49 am Posts: 31 Location: Marble Bar
Vehicle: 2012 Suzuki Jimny
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Haha seems like a sensis on 235's, I may even go 31s. I would like to be able to get around white hills tho for those who know where it is in WA as i like to chase mulloway there when i get a chance to fish all night.
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monley

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Joined: Wed Nov 24, 2010 7:58 am Posts: 11092 Location: Mandurah.W.A.
Vehicle: 84 LWB NT
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weazilyd wrote: Haha seems like a sensis on 235's, I may even go 31s. I would like to be able to get around white hills tho for those who know where it is in WA as i like to chase mulloway there when i get a chance to fish all night. White hills is about 10mins away from my house 
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BertZook

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Joined: Wed May 26, 2010 3:01 am Posts: 2979 Location: Sunshine Coast
Vehicle: Jimny, 45mm lift, 235's tyres
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zooky08 wrote: joel wrote: zooky08 wrote: i have the exactly the same setup as scales but hate the gearing so let me just quarter back this bitch for a second, you went from standard hoops to 215s and you can notice the gearing is shit......  jimny gearing is shit to start with  I got 215's too.... normal day to day driving is not bad at all.... yes, I felt bit lost of gearing but meh nothing to really worry about in low range got no problem either, only when going downhills.... now thats gearing shit for me
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weazilyd

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Joined: Thu Oct 28, 2010 4:49 am Posts: 31 Location: Marble Bar
Vehicle: 2012 Suzuki Jimny
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Haha damn u Monley! Wish i lived that close id hav more time to fish. Howd ur zook go on the fine sand when you had 235's?
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monley

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Joined: Wed Nov 24, 2010 7:58 am Posts: 11092 Location: Mandurah.W.A.
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weazilyd wrote: Haha damn u Monley! Wish i lived that close id hav more time to fish. Howd ur zook go on the fine sand when you had 235's? 235s and no gearing in the sand was great. I had a very usable rev range 
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jonno_racing

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Joined: Wed Apr 15, 2009 11:30 pm Posts: 8164 Location: Tassie
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going from. gti zook with 6.5s to g13bb Jim on 215s I can tell you the Jim is very under powered/geard. however I have just changed my driving style to suit.
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weazilyd

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Joined: Thu Oct 28, 2010 4:49 am Posts: 31 Location: Marble Bar
Vehicle: 2012 Suzuki Jimny
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 Posted: Tue Apr 03, 2012 1:55 pm |
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Hmmm might go some 235's and just drive to suit haha
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joel
Joined: Wed Jan 27, 2010 10:30 pm Posts: 2191 Location: Dirranbandi
Vehicle: Sj70 tintop
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zukenutter wrote: Everyone has gone gearing crazy but in reality and as drewmouli said 235s and standard gearing are quite drive able in most situations. I used to tow 400kg with standard gears and 235s, just need a bit more patience. That said I love having adjusted gears.
Poor clutch technique/habits off road will see an early clutch death though. agreed
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ZookFan
Joined: Mon Feb 14, 2011 6:19 am Posts: 3978 Location: Brisbane,samford,QLD
Vehicle: 92 Sierra Tin Top, 3 X LJ 81's
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zooky08 wrote: joel wrote: zooky08 wrote: i have the exactly the same setup as scales but hate the gearing so let me just quarter back this bitch for a second, you went from standard hoops to 215s and you can notice the gearing is shit......  jimny gearing is shit to start with  Geared taller than a sierra???  but they have more power and torque.. wouldn't that make up for the gearing??
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Gwagensteve
Joined: Thu Feb 26, 2009 10:30 pm Posts: 13007 Location: Melbourne
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No. In short, adding power and torque doesn't compensate for incorrect gearing. Only cruiser/patrol owners think that.
Steve.
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jimny2011
Joined: Mon Nov 28, 2011 6:21 am Posts: 3 Location: Sydney
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Hi, I have a 2011 Jimny in Auto. If i was to get a 2inch lift could i fit 31's? I am new to 4wd please be gentle 
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squibby
Joined: Wed May 11, 2011 3:13 am Posts: 645 Location: Brisbane
Vehicle: On the lookout
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Mate it's easy to deduce the two general opinions from posts above
1) 215's with a modest lift won't rub at all and is recommended by a few, including myself. This is the legal option and doesn't require engineering certification in NSW might I add. Haven't driven a jimny with 235's, but I know my M13 with 215's and some extra weight (winch bars etc) was only just 'adequate' 2) 235's - rubs a little off road, but a few reckon the stock jimny and gearing is ok with this. - Not legal unless you get it engineered and either sort out the mild scrubbing issues or hope your engineer doesn't notice that it can scrub. Visually, 235's look awesome on a jimny compared to 215's.
So take your pick, but if 235's scrub, then in my book option 2 is not that great tbh, and 31's is gonna need careful thought.
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monley

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Joined: Wed Nov 24, 2010 7:58 am Posts: 11092 Location: Mandurah.W.A.
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I wouldn't want to run 31s on a New jimny auto. They are not very strong....
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SierraDan

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Joined: Fri Feb 04, 2011 10:55 pm Posts: 9348 Location: Newcastle
Vehicle: G13BB Jimny
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31zook's jimny when it was stock, had terrible gearing haha.
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jimny2011
Joined: Mon Nov 28, 2011 6:21 am Posts: 3 Location: Sydney
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Much appreciated
I didnt realise that 235's need engineering as my second choise was the 235 bighorne maxxis.
Is there any particular 2" lift kit that you would reccomend?
I really dont want to be getting blue slips and engineering certificates for and mods
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