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| Author: | matty87 [ Tue Jan 12, 2010 4:57 am ] |
| Post subject: | hectic flex but hits on chassis rails. |
so have test fitted the 34" jt2's with the new suspension setup and we are getting some good flex but we are hitting on the chassis in both of the following pics so think will go for 50mm wheel spacers this is ontop of the already huge wheel offset. what do you fellas think? 
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| Author: | matty87 [ Tue Jan 12, 2010 5:05 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: hectic flex but hits on chassis rails. |
and here is a comparison of the new vs the old but more importantly to detail the offset on the rims. 
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| Author: | shep [ Tue Jan 12, 2010 5:06 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: hectic flex but hits on chassis rails. |
put wt diffs in it mate it gives ya heaps more clearance |
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| Author: | v.w.dave [ Tue Jan 12, 2010 5:09 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: hectic flex but hits on chassis rails. |
What exactly are the plans??? What is going on the frame? Engine/body???Yahh go for WT diff housings or Hilux... Flipping rims could give you more just look at brendans zook on here he has his flipped and pushed out to the max. |
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| Author: | Fatzook [ Tue Jan 12, 2010 5:13 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: hectic flex but hits on chassis rails. |
v.w.dave wrote: What exactly are the plans??? What is going on the frame? Engine/body???Yahh go for WT diff housings or Hilux...
Flipping rims could give you more just look at brendans zook on here he has his flipped and pushed out to the max. Did you even look at the pics? His rims are at max offset 
Seconded on the WT diffs. |
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| Author: | shep [ Tue Jan 12, 2010 5:16 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: hectic flex but hits on chassis rails. |
v.w.dave wrote: What exactly are the plans??? What is going on the frame? Engine/body???Yahh go for WT diff housings or Hilux...
Flipping rims could give you more just look at brendans zook on here he has his flipped and pushed out to the max. it is a tray back chassis so you would assume that a ute cab and some sort of tray is going on it.
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| Author: | v.w.dave [ Tue Jan 12, 2010 5:21 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: hectic flex but hits on chassis rails. |
I don't know the frames that well yet I knew they were Zook diffs. I just don't know them with there skins off. No they are not pushed out all the way have a look at brendans then you will see how far they can go. You can get atleast 2" more out of them. |
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| Author: | shep [ Tue Jan 12, 2010 5:30 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: hectic flex but hits on chassis rails. |
v.w.dave wrote: I don't know the frames that well yet I knew they were Zook diffs. I just don't know them with there skins off.
No they are not pushed out all the way have a look at brendans then you will see how far they can go. You can get atleast 2" more out of them. you really do talk out of your arse a bit dont ya. 
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| Author: | Joe [ Tue Jan 12, 2010 5:57 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: hectic flex but hits on chassis rails. |
Wheel spacers would be the ezy way too fix it but if you have the know how go for WT diffs 
Oh and it looks like the project is coming along nicely yous are building this for mud guts and glory aye?????? |
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| Author: | Fatzook [ Tue Jan 12, 2010 6:06 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: hectic flex but hits on chassis rails. |
shep wrote: v.w.dave wrote: I don't know the frames that well yet I knew they were Zook diffs. I just don't know them with there skins off. No they are not pushed out all the way have a look at brendans then you will see how far they can go. You can get atleast 2" more out of them. you really do talk out of your arse a bit dont ya. Can you type a bit more muffled? He may not understand clear english if arse-talk is his native tongue 
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| Author: | ajsr [ Tue Jan 12, 2010 11:10 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: hectic flex but hits on chassis rails. |
having run flipped rims for a long time I can assure you that there is fack all more that you could move those centers if any. they are already flipped to the max petes dead right dave. |
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| Author: | want33s [ Tue Jan 12, 2010 3:06 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: hectic flex but hits on chassis rails. |
Once you get the clearance issue sorted with WT diffs or spacers get rid of those crap JT's. They are useless for anything except mocking up a build. |
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| Author: | matty87 [ Tue Jan 12, 2010 4:25 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: hectic flex but hits on chassis rails. |
thanks for the replies fellas. Yes it is a trayback the cab is going back on with a baleno 1.6 in the front to keep the nose down .
Thos rims are flipped and at max offset could not get anymore out of them. We are going to fab up some kind of bent tube framed tray with checkerplate infill. What ya recon? And fit in there somewhere a custom fuel tank. may put a tool box and a spare tyre on the back for weight help with keeping thos back wheels on the ground. Also tossing up whether to move the radiator to the tray or even add a second one on the tray for mud runs etc. I shall do a search on fitting the Wt diffs to our bus but is there much too it? What sorta price is reasonable to pay for them? Dont ya like Jt's what do ya recomend? And yeah this truck is being built for mud guts and general playing around Hopefully the boys will get a bit more done on it while im up in singapore im just itching to put the motor in it. |
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| Author: | shep [ Tue Jan 12, 2010 4:32 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: hectic flex but hits on chassis rails. |
putting wt diffs in is easy all i had to do was buy a few red slushy's and ball did it for me 
bogfrog has a great step by step wt diff conversion write up around here some where. your build is looking good so far mate but i would do something with ya chassis soon before it rusts away. keep the photos coming.
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| Author: | matty87 [ Tue Jan 12, 2010 4:37 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: hectic flex but hits on chassis rails. |
ok cool ill do a search for it. and ill try keeping the photos up to ya. and actually the chassis has hardly any rust in it at all, all that stuff that looks like rust is acctually brown clay from twenty years on a southwest farm and ten of those without a wash
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| Author: | shep [ Tue Jan 12, 2010 4:44 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: hectic flex but hits on chassis rails. |
haha yah fuck washing them. found it http://www.auszookers.com/index.php?nam ... pic&t=5293 |
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| Author: | atari4x4 [ Tue Jan 12, 2010 4:57 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: hectic flex but hits on chassis rails. |
here is Bogfrog's NT to WT diff swap... http://www.auszookers.com/index.php?nam ... pic&t=5293 edit: arrgh crap, shep beat me to it!! |
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| Author: | matty87 [ Tue Jan 12, 2010 5:13 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: hectic flex but hits on chassis rails. |
thanks fellas looks pretty straight forward. now to try source some diffs. whats a fair price in your educated oppinions? |
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| Author: | BlueSuzy [ Tue Jan 12, 2010 5:13 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: hectic flex but hits on chassis rails. |
atari4x4 wrote: here is Bogfrog's NT to WT diff swap... http://www.auszookers.com/index.php?nam ... pic&t=5293
Too slowwww
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| Author: | want33s [ Tue Jan 12, 2010 5:49 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: hectic flex but hits on chassis rails. |
matty87 wrote: thanks fellas looks pretty straight forward. now to try source some diffs. whats a fair price in your educated oppinions?
$300-$500 depending on condition for a pair of complete WT diffs is fair. |
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| Author: | atari4x4 [ Tue Jan 12, 2010 5:55 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: hectic flex but hits on chassis rails. |
BlueSuzy wrote: atari4x4 wrote: here is Bogfrog's NT to WT diff swap... http://www.auszookers.com/index.php?nam ... pic&t=5293 Too slowwww yeah i know, i should do less work & more surfing... 
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| Author: | want33s [ Tue Jan 12, 2010 6:37 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: hectic flex but hits on chassis rails. |
matty87 wrote: Dont ya like Jt's what do ya recomend? And yeah this truck is being built for mud guts and general playing around If it's being built for mud you can't go past Silverstone MT117 Extremes or Simex Extreme Trekker Centipedes. |
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| Author: | matty87 [ Tue Jan 12, 2010 6:52 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: hectic flex but hits on chassis rails. |
want33s wrote: matty87 wrote: Dont ya like Jt's what do ya recomend? And yeah this truck is being built for mud guts and general playing around If it's being built for mud you can't go past Silverstone MT117 Extremes or Simex Extreme Trekker Centipedes. We did look at both of those. But for 1800 moneys for four tyres with 95% and 4 bead locked rims for a landcruiser stud pattern we thought that it was a good deal. |
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| Author: | canberramav [ Wed Jan 13, 2010 4:31 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: hectic flex but hits on chassis rails. |
You might gain clearance if you change to SPOA setup. I would limit the lenght of that buggy leaf by half or the car will hop all over the place. Or better yet seeing that your at the beginning of your build just replace the sierra springs and get rid of the buggy leaf and put in some hilux springs or similar that are longer and will behave more predictably. |
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| Author: | matty87 [ Wed Jan 13, 2010 4:59 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: hectic flex but hits on chassis rails. |
canberramav we not to worried about hight as in clearace from the ground to the lowest point on the car more trying to beat the wheels hitting on the chassis when flexed up. and also on the front springs when at full lock. i can see how going spring over will help with this but its alot more pissing about to do that and requires highstear setup etc than getting spacers or w/t diffs. and those rear springs you see consist of the rear springs from my 2006 model hilux and are nearly twice the length of the zuk ones and the 3/4 eliptical (the one upside down that you call a buggy spring i think) is the original main leaf from the zuks rear leaf pack. The front springs have been changed to springs from some unknown vehicle, they are 3 inches wide and far longer than standard we had to extend the chassis by 2 and a bit inches and move the mount down 2 inches also. The reason for the 3/4 eliptical is that when the body is on and the tray with a bit of weight it will sit down flat on the upside down leaf when on the flat ground but drop one of those wheels in a rut and it will just all open up like a slinky. From prelim tests its looking like the money shot. correct me if im wrong or have missed anything? Im still learning about all this stuff. |
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| Author: | shep [ Wed Jan 13, 2010 6:30 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: hectic flex but hits on chassis rails. |
this is my lwb. spring under with wt diffs, i reckon it flexes ok
i get full lock on the stearing through all the suspension movement exept at full compression when it touches the headlight bucket thing. 
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| Author: | shep [ Wed Jan 13, 2010 6:37 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: hectic flex but hits on chassis rails. |
actually with those big tyres ya might be better off doing a jimbo jones to it.
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| Author: | matty87 [ Wed Jan 13, 2010 6:48 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: hectic flex but hits on chassis rails. |
that looks sweet shep. what is a jimbo jones? |
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| Author: | shep [ Wed Jan 13, 2010 6:56 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: hectic flex but hits on chassis rails. |
jimbo's car. http://www.auszookers.com/index.php?nam ... sc&start=0 
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| Author: | matty87 [ Thu Jan 14, 2010 1:07 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: hectic flex but hits on chassis rails. |
that thang looks mean. looks like it would roll over backwards befor it went over sidways haha. after looking at his build up thats an epic job plus we only got little 34" tyres hahaha. personally im doin this build to show up a few guys in there tricked out cruisers and because the little ute was just going to waste on the farm before we started, its served us well so i thought id give the old girl who is actally called james haha a second lease on life and make chasing roos round the farm a heap more fun hahah. anyway back on topic if i was to go against all your good advice and go for say 2" wheel spacers what if anything should i be looking out for other than the obvious good supply of wheel bearings? is there anything that i may have overlooked being reletivly new to the game of epic car modification?
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