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Author:  ninjamoses [ Tue Jan 12, 2010 4:42 am ]
Post subject:  WTB: Grand Vit Steel Diff & 5.12 gears
As per the title, chasing a steel front diff housing and third member from a Grand Vitara. Have recent fitted a rear locker and am itching to do the front, but I'm not going to bother until I have a steel housing.

Would prefer one of the earlier 99 era'ish ones off a manual V6 if possible, however they dont exactly grow on trees so would still be interested in later models and/or XL7s.

cheers,
Moses
Author:  ninjamoses [ Sun Feb 21, 2010 4:03 am ]
Post subject:  Re: Grand Vitara steel diff housing/3rd member
Still chasing this if anyone has one or knows where I can get one (I've checked with a shitload of wreckers without any luck so far)

Also chasing 5.12 gears front and rear now as well.

cheers,
Kris
Author:  Bruce [ Sun Feb 21, 2010 4:05 am ]
Post subject:  Re: Grand Vitara steel diff housing/3rd member
Mate you won't get a air locker into a GV diff.
You will need a Vitara diff.
Author:  Joe [ Sun Feb 21, 2010 4:08 am ]
Post subject:  Re: WTB: Grand Vit Steel Diff & 5.12 gears
Ive got rear 5.12s if your interested im down rockingham way
Author:  atari4x4 [ Sun Feb 21, 2010 4:29 am ]
Post subject:  Re: WTB: Grand Vit Steel Diff & 5.12 gears
i'd be calling suzuki wreckers on the east coast, freight would be around $50 on the housing & carrier.

oh yeah grab them 5.12's off joe, good luck in getting the front diff out 8O
Author:  ninjamoses [ Sun Feb 21, 2010 4:44 am ]
Post subject:  Re: WTB: Grand Vit Steel Diff & 5.12 gears
Nah not going an air locker, have a lockright ready to go in it with the machined carrier from Trail Tough. The steel housings/third members are the same as the alloy ones aren't they so it should just be a matter of swapping the insides over and bolting it in?

Already checked with probably the 10 biggest east coast wreckers Atari - haven't had any luck at all. Even a few suzuki specialist ones. Seems everyone else has the same idea and they get snatched up pretty quick. Need more grand vitara drivers to go crash their cars already! :P

What are ya chasing for the 5.12 gears joseph? Definitely interested if they are in good condition. Atari - you could probably answer this, but do all 5.12 gear sets fit or do I need particular years (I think I remember reading something about a 10 bolt vs 12 bolt rear possibly???).

cheers guys,
Kris
Author:  atari4x4 [ Sun Feb 21, 2010 4:52 am ]
Post subject:  Re: WTB: Grand Vit Steel Diff & 5.12 gears
joe's being an aus delivered EFI LWB it will have the 26 spline front & from memory the 12 bolt rear.
Author:  Joe [ Sun Feb 21, 2010 4:59 am ]
Post subject:  Re: WTB: Grand Vit Steel Diff & 5.12 gears
atari4x4 wrote:
i'd be calling suzuki wreckers on the east coast, freight would be around $50 on the housing & carrier.

oh yeah grab them 5.12's off joe, good luck in getting the front diff out 8O


Who me?????????dont worry ill get it out :twisted:
Author:  atari4x4 [ Sun Feb 21, 2010 5:00 am ]
Post subject:  Re: WTB: Grand Vit Steel Diff & 5.12 gears
you will want an early GV V6 manual carrier, the later ones have a different pinion mount


the one on the top of this photo is the one you want... (broken alloy)
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Author:  Joe [ Sun Feb 21, 2010 5:04 am ]
Post subject:  Re: WTB: Grand Vit Steel Diff & 5.12 gears
ninjamoses wrote:
Nah not going an air locker, have a lockright ready to go in it with the machined carrier from Trail Tough. The steel housings/third members are the same as the alloy ones aren't they so it should just be a matter of swapping the insides over and bolting it in?

Already checked with probably the 10 biggest east coast wreckers Atari - haven't had any luck at all. Even a few suzuki specialist ones. Seems everyone else has the same idea and they get snatched up pretty quick. Need more grand vitara drivers to go crash their cars already! :P

What are ya chasing for the 5.12 gears joseph? Definitely interested if they are in good condition. Atari - you could probably answer this, but do all 5.12 gear sets fit or do I need particular years (I think I remember reading something about a 10 bolt vs 12 bolt rear possibly???).

cheers guys,
Kris


Say 70 bucks ive only got the rear one though......i should be able to take it out this week if ya want it :wink:
Author:  atari4x4 [ Sun Feb 21, 2010 5:06 am ]
Post subject:  Re: WTB: Grand Vit Steel Diff & 5.12 gears
where's the front one gone?
Author:  ninjamoses [ Sun Feb 21, 2010 5:07 am ]
Post subject:  Re: WTB: Grand Vit Steel Diff & 5.12 gears
Sounds like a fair price to me. I live way north of you (up in Butler) but it just so happens I've got a bucks in Mandurah next weekend so could grab it then if you could pull it out before then.

Will drop ya a PM. :wink:

Thats 1/3 of my wanted list sorted. Anyone else got front 5.12s or the steel diff now?
Author:  Joe [ Sun Feb 21, 2010 5:12 am ]
Post subject:  Re: WTB: Grand Vit Steel Diff & 5.12 gears
ninjamoses wrote:
Sounds like a fair price to me. I live way north of you (up in Butler) but it just so happens I've got a bucks in Mandurah next weekend so could grab it then if you could pull it out before then.

Will drop ya a PM. :wink:

Thats 1/3 of my wanted list sorted. Anyone else got front 5.12s or the steel diff now?


Ill do me best mate :wink:
Author:  Joe [ Sun Feb 21, 2010 5:12 am ]
Post subject:  Re: WTB: Grand Vit Steel Diff & 5.12 gears
atari4x4 wrote:
where's the front one gone?


Jas is getting it :wink:
Author:  Stuey [ Sun Feb 21, 2010 9:06 am ]
Post subject:  Re: WTB: Grand Vit Steel Diff & 5.12 gears
The steel carriers and housings are definately getting hard to find.

Other option is grab a few alloy housings as spares in the meantime!?
I've got an ally one you can have for the bargain price of $0! Chuck in the locker......wheel the piss outta it. If it goes bang..... no big deal. At least you can use the locker until you track a steel one down. 5.125s should be pretty easy to find. Most of the 1.6 manuals had 'em.

And as Atari said, the issue is making sure you get the 26 spline front end.
Author:  ninjamoses [ Sun Feb 21, 2010 5:41 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: WTB: Grand Vit Steel Diff & 5.12 gears
Thanks all.

Regarding the 26 spline front, doesn't that refer to spline count on the CV joints/side gears etc and not the R&P? Hence it wouldn't matter if the 5.12 fronts came from a 26 spline diff or not? Is that right, or is my diff knowledge the suck?

Or is the issue that the 5.12 R&P gears are designed different on the earlier lesser splined diffs, hence while they have nothing to do with the spline count itself it still needs to come from said diff to ensure it fits?
Author:  atari4x4 [ Sun Feb 21, 2010 9:52 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: WTB: Grand Vit Steel Diff & 5.12 gears
i'm not sure what the auto locker replaces in the front of a vitara, but with the air locker there are 2 versions. a 22 & 26 spline, this refers to the splines in the side gears where the RHS CV slots in & the left side axle shaft.

seeing you will have to put R&P out of the alloy carrier & install it into the steel carrier it shouldn't be a problem seeing you are only using the R&P, as long as the lockrite is a 26 spline.

dose that make sense as i think i confused myself...
Author:  steak_knife [ Sun Feb 21, 2010 9:55 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: WTB: Grand Vit Steel Diff & 5.12 gears
atari4x4 wrote:
i'm not sure what the auto locker replaces in the front of a vitara, but with the air locker there are 2 versions. a 22 & 26 spline, this refers to the splines in the side gears where the RHS CV slots in & the left side axle shaft.

seeing you will have to put R&P out of the alloy carrier & install it into the steel carrier it shouldn't be a problem seeing you are only using the R&P, as long as the lockrite is a 26 spline.

dose that make sense as i think i confused myself...


You summed it up nicely.. :wink: :P :P 8)
Author:  ninjamoses [ Sun Feb 21, 2010 10:04 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: WTB: Grand Vit Steel Diff & 5.12 gears
haha thanks Atari, that was my thoughts also so if we are both on the same track we must be right. :wink:

The lockright include a new 3 pin carrier and 26 spline side gears (had to specify that when I ordered it). Should just be a matter of bolting it in to the diff centre from my alloy diff, fitting the new 5.12 gears and bolting the whole shebang into the new steel carrier.

This is the link to the custom 3 pin carrier with lockright if anyone is interested. Linda from trail tough is awesome to deal with, really really good service. Gave it to my for that price without having to exchange my stock one also.

http://www.trailtough.com/index.php?pag ... &Itemid=53
Author:  atari4x4 [ Sun Feb 21, 2010 10:24 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: WTB: Grand Vit Steel Diff & 5.12 gears
the whole R&P with the locker will need to be re~installed into the steel carrier & set up as you will have to reset the pinion height, meshing pattern, preload blah blah blah if you get what i mean...

it will be more work than the rear as you didn't have to remove the pinion gear from the housing, it's maybe a job for a diff dude or a good mechanic... but don't listen to me i drive a keyboard all day.
Author:  Joe [ Tue Feb 23, 2010 3:21 am ]
Post subject:  Re: WTB: Grand Vit Steel Diff & 5.12 gears
Just finshed taking center out for ya matey and the oil that was in there was clean as so i guess thats a good sign that its in good nick :P anyways its here for when ever you want to pick it up :wink:
Ill pm ya me number
Fuck diff oil stinks like yuk 8O
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