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shandy92

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Joined: Tue Nov 25, 2008 10:30 pm Posts: 5066 Location: perth, Australia
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 Posted: Tue Dec 28, 2010 7:59 am |
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ahah yeah ok, well can someone explain which bolts need to be undone at the top end??
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atari4x4

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Joined: Mon Dec 11, 2006 10:30 pm Posts: 34842 Location: East Radelayed
Vehicle: SV420+SV620 Vitara's
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 Posted: Tue Dec 28, 2010 8:06 am |
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same bolt as the one on the steering box
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steak_knife

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Joined: Fri May 22, 2009 11:30 pm Posts: 21335 Location: Smart Ass Island
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shandy92

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Joined: Tue Nov 25, 2008 10:30 pm Posts: 5066 Location: perth, Australia
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 Posted: Tue Dec 28, 2010 8:24 am |
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hmmm yeah ok, well i just went and try'd to loosen it off and its super tight! plus it doesnt help when theres not much light left or only have crappy tools.
steaky- im using a small laptop, are u talking about the very last pic? it shows some kind of clamps over the shaft? if thats the case then i have heaps if play left.
ill go and have another go.
cheers for ya help...once again.
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royce

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Joined: Sun Jun 11, 2006 11:30 pm Posts: 17216 Location: Pluto
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 Posted: Tue Dec 28, 2010 8:26 am |
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the firewall bolt is easier to get at from underneath
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steak_knife

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Joined: Fri May 22, 2009 11:30 pm Posts: 21335 Location: Smart Ass Island
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shandy92 wrote: steaky- im using a small laptop, are u talking about the very last pic? it shows some kind of clamps over the shaft? if thats the case then i have heaps if play left.
Bingo....
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alien
Joined: Wed Mar 24, 2010 10:30 pm Posts: 16343 Location: Perth
Vehicle: '92 Sierra, 1.6efi, SPOA, 31s.
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 Posted: Tue Dec 28, 2010 9:02 am |
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woohoo- problem solved and it was free!
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shandy92

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Joined: Tue Nov 25, 2008 10:30 pm Posts: 5066 Location: perth, Australia
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 Posted: Tue Dec 28, 2010 9:13 am |
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ok cool, i had another go and i just cant get it atm. will have another go tomorrow after work....yes i will be driving, no one has said anything about driving or not driving, if its not safe just say! ill give everything a spray with wd40 to try and free it up.
thanks
p.s- anyone know why my steering wheel is on the angle???
Aron- my steering wheel still is on the piss, doesnt solve my original issue, just something else.
Mitch
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royce

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Joined: Sun Jun 11, 2006 11:30 pm Posts: 17216 Location: Pluto
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 Posted: Tue Dec 28, 2010 9:15 am |
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as long as the clamp at the box end is still tight your probably no worse off than before
wheel is on an angle cause its probably jumped a few splines, its a bit worrying when your steering lets go but you can usually pull over without dieing
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shandy92

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Joined: Tue Nov 25, 2008 10:30 pm Posts: 5066 Location: perth, Australia
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 Posted: Tue Dec 28, 2010 9:20 am |
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royce wrote: as long as the clamp at the box end is still tight your probably no worse off than before
wheel is on an angle cause its probably jumped a few splines, its a bit worrying when your steering lets go but you can usually pull over without dieing
yeah thats what i was thinking, i try'd to get it off but i couldnt get the angle right. so the socket just kept popping off.
i thought that might of happened, what would let it do that tho? front end coming up, having no weight on the joint and just moving?
ill go double check that its all tight but i cant see why it wouldnt be.
cheers royce, have been waiting for words along those lines for hrs 
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royce

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Joined: Sun Jun 11, 2006 11:30 pm Posts: 17216 Location: Pluto
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side load from a tyre, you must have huge muscles
if you die, dont come crying to me, I have done dumber but wouldnt drive with it like that these days
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shandy92

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Joined: Tue Nov 25, 2008 10:30 pm Posts: 5066 Location: perth, Australia
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 Posted: Tue Dec 28, 2010 9:25 am |
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royce wrote: side load from a tyre, you must have huge muscles  if you die, dont come crying to me, I have done dumber but wouldnt drive with it like that these days
ahah well gee if u say so
well if i die, i wont be able to cry or even talk to u for that fact.
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Taff
Joined: Sun Aug 13, 2006 11:30 pm Posts: 889 Location: Brisbane
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 Posted: Tue Dec 28, 2010 11:21 am |
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steering and brakes are the 2 things that need to be 100%
if your steering slips off who gives a shit if you die, what if you kill someones kid and survive.
fix it properly.
if its loose enough to jump splines thats fucked.
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Taff
Joined: Sun Aug 13, 2006 11:30 pm Posts: 889 Location: Brisbane
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 Posted: Tue Dec 28, 2010 11:30 am |
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just so we are on the same page, that bolt should be where the black circle is.
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shandy92

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Joined: Tue Nov 25, 2008 10:30 pm Posts: 5066 Location: perth, Australia
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 Posted: Tue Dec 28, 2010 11:33 am |
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Taff wrote: just so we are on the same page, that bolt should be where the black circle is.
no not quite, somewhere in between where it is now and the black dot. if it was where the black dot is, it would be near the end of the splines at the firewall end. if i wasnt running a body lift then yes it could be where that black dot is, but its not possible for me to have it there unless i get an extension or spacer put in.
Mitch
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shandy92

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Joined: Tue Nov 25, 2008 10:30 pm Posts: 5066 Location: perth, Australia
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 Posted: Tue Dec 28, 2010 11:49 am |
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Taff wrote: steering and brakes are the 2 things that need to be 100%
if your steering slips off who gives a shit if you die, what if you kill someones kid and survive.
fix it properly.
if its loose enough to jump splines thats fucked.
mate thats really nice of you aye, thats like saying "go jump off a cliff and kill ur self and no one will notice as nobody give a shit"
mate, it will get fixed. its not your problem its mine. like it has been said before - if you have nothing useful to contribute dont contribute anything.
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TZAR

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Joined: Tue Aug 01, 2006 11:30 pm Posts: 3461 Location: licking some windows
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shandy92 wrote: Taff wrote: steering and brakes are the 2 things that need to be 100%
if your steering slips off who gives a shit if you die, what if you kill someones kid and survive.
fix it properly.
if its loose enough to jump splines thats fucked. mate thats really nice of you aye, thats like saying "go jump off a cliff and kill ur self and no one will notice as nobody give a shit" mate, it will get fixed. its not your problem its mine. like it has been said before - if you have nothing useful to contribute dont contribute anything.
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atari4x4

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Joined: Mon Dec 11, 2006 10:30 pm Posts: 34842 Location: East Radelayed
Vehicle: SV420+SV620 Vitara's
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Taff wrote: steering and brakes are the 2 things that need to be 100%
if your steering slips off who gives a shit if you die, what if you kill someones kid and survive.
fix it properly.
if its loose enough to jump splines thats fucked.
Mitch, you highlighted the wrong part of that statement
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royce

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Joined: Sun Jun 11, 2006 11:30 pm Posts: 17216 Location: Pluto
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shandy92 wrote: like it has been said before - if you have nothing useful to contribute dont contribute anything.
What you are saying is if you arent going to post something I agree with then dont post, everyones entitled to an opinion here
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shandy92

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Joined: Tue Nov 25, 2008 10:30 pm Posts: 5066 Location: perth, Australia
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 Posted: Wed Dec 29, 2010 8:39 am |
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yeah atari i miss read that bit, i red the 1st bit (highlighted) then kind of missed the rest.
but yeah, how many times did i ask if it was safe for me to drive? lots, and i only got 1 reply saying that it should be ok. Taff- all you had to say was " i dont think its safe for you to drive, maybe think about getting a lift to work"
but its all done now, i have moved it in a good 1/2", you can no longer see the flat section.
only issue i have is and the reason why it was so tight....the bolt at the box end is stretched, and kind of looks like a boab tree. very slightly skinnier at the top while fatter at the bottom, the thread isnt perfect but still had some left. i tightened it back up, and will get a new bolt this w.e.
where can i get one from??
i didnt have time to fix the steering wheel, i will have to do when i fix the bolt. its not that annoying, just makes it hard to see the temp gauge.
i will upload a photo of the new spline length, but its just the same but you see less of it.
and royce, yes everyone is entitled to an opinion here and i welcome people to speak up, just people need to think before they type.
thanks
Mitch
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royce

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Joined: Sun Jun 11, 2006 11:30 pm Posts: 17216 Location: Pluto
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 Posted: Wed Dec 29, 2010 8:41 am |
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shandy92 wrote: just people need to think before they type.
ive been telling people this for 4 and a bit years now, it aint gunna happen 
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atari4x4

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Joined: Mon Dec 11, 2006 10:30 pm Posts: 34842 Location: East Radelayed
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shandy92 wrote: but yeah, how many times did i ask if it was safe for me to drive? lots, and i only got 1 reply saying that it should be ok. Taff- all you had to say was " i dont think its safe for you to drive, maybe think about getting a lift to work" atari4x4 wrote: shandy92 wrote: i need to no if its safe to drive it like this? as i need it for work.
probably not until you work out whats wrong.

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shandy92

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Joined: Tue Nov 25, 2008 10:30 pm Posts: 5066 Location: perth, Australia
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royce wrote: shandy92 wrote: just people need to think before they type.
ive been telling people this for 4 and a bit years now, it aint gunna happen 
ahaha yeah, well the more that say it, then more that are going to do it.
u know where i can get a steering bolt from? and is it high tensile? 8.8?
thanks
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royce

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Joined: Sun Jun 11, 2006 11:30 pm Posts: 17216 Location: Pluto
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 Posted: Wed Dec 29, 2010 8:56 am |
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bolt shop, will be a different head size though, all M8 are
I would use 8.8 there
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shandy92

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Joined: Tue Nov 25, 2008 10:30 pm Posts: 5066 Location: perth, Australia
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royce wrote: bolt shop, will be a different head size though, all M8 are I would use 8.8 there
Oh ok, i thought it would be a special bolt? it had a spring washer on (nothing special) but under that washer it has a ring of vertical lines?? if there is nothing special about them them cool, ill get them from work. also the bolt has 2 vertical lines on top of the head , this mean anything??
cheers
Mitch
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royce

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Joined: Sun Jun 11, 2006 11:30 pm Posts: 17216 Location: Pluto
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those markings are its grade, I think the manual tells whats what
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alien
Joined: Wed Mar 24, 2010 10:30 pm Posts: 16343 Location: Perth
Vehicle: '92 Sierra, 1.6efi, SPOA, 31s.
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mitch my mate works at west coast fasteners in balcatta - go in, ask for "MAL" or "Lyndon" (he goes by either)... take the bolt out in the carpark and he'll match it.
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shandy92

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Joined: Tue Nov 25, 2008 10:30 pm Posts: 5066 Location: perth, Australia
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royce- the manual doesnt say anything about bolts, there isnt even the word bolt in the index lol. i have the haynes manual, can u have a look in yours prettyyyy please??
thanks Aron, ill keep that in mind. but i have conventry's fastners down the rd from work, so ill try there.
i guy at work recons that they are a special kind of bolt which is for the steering, and that there are designed to "stretch". he also said not to trust forums but i trust AZ more than i do him lol. so you can kind of disregard this sentence lol.
is there anywhere that will tell me, the length and thread of the bolt? i dont want to have to take it out again as i dont know if i can trust the threads strength of being removed then re tightened again.
thanks
Mitch
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royce

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Its not in a 1 litre sierra book, dont have any others here
come to think of it those vertical thingos are sposed to be to help lock it in the uni, doubt they do a lot
tell your mate not to be a hater if he cant read and type or thinks he knows everything and just go stick a bolt in it, or if you can wait till I am next near some spares I have one in a shaft, that could be a month though
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shandy92

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Joined: Tue Nov 25, 2008 10:30 pm Posts: 5066 Location: perth, Australia
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 Posted: Thu Dec 30, 2010 7:37 am |
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royce wrote: Its not in a 1 litre sierra book, dont have any others here
come to think of it those vertical thingos are sposed to be to help lock it in the uni, doubt they do a lot
tell your mate not to be a hater if he cant read and type or thinks he knows everything and just go stick a bolt in it, or if you can wait till I am next near some spares I have one in a shaft, that could be a month though
ahah yeah doubt it would, thanks anyway.
yeah i was thinking about that, and that sounds like what they would be used for, tried to give suzistore a ring but they aren't open
well i would rather not just stick any bolt in there, it is kind of an important component. so i would like the correct one.
I would like to have it done by then lol, but next time ur there have a look incase i got the wrong one.
cheers
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