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Bugsta
Joined: Fri Oct 30, 2009 10:30 pm Posts: 1754 Location: North Brisbane
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Been doing a little reading on the subject of engine upgrade to a jimny.
While the m18 is the obvious choice for best bang for buck upgrade, some reports are that its just not that great and they tend to break. Perhaps there is just too much power for the quality of the components used. The m16 is said to have strong components and not fail like the m18.
So, Is it possible to make a hybrid between the 2. Is it as simple as stripping the good, strong bits from a m16 and swapping them into the m18?
I realise that with different capacity comes different part requirements, but perhaps there is enough stronger components that can be used to make the difference?
On another line, can an m13 be upgraded with parts from an m16 and m18 without complications and will the m13 ECU be suitable for the extra capacity?
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monley
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Posted: Tue Aug 02, 2011 10:26 pm |
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There was one guy on here who had a m18a with the m13a ecu and he said it ran fine like that .
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alien
Joined: Wed Mar 24, 2010 10:30 pm Posts: 16343 Location: Perth
Vehicle: '92 Sierra, 1.6efi, SPOA, 31s.
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Posted: Tue Aug 02, 2011 10:30 pm |
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the trick would be using the m13 head on the m16 bottom end with the m16 injectors - providing they bolt up and the flow on the head is the same.
My sierra runs a g13bb head and g16b bottom end with g16b injectors and g13bb computer.
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Bugsta
Joined: Fri Oct 30, 2009 10:30 pm Posts: 1754 Location: North Brisbane
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Posted: Wed Aug 03, 2011 9:15 pm |
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alien wrote: the trick would be using the m13 head on the m16 bottom end with the m16 injectors - providing they bolt up and the flow on the head is the same.
Ok, so has anyone done this or know how it would be done, and if it works? I'd like to hear from people who have the tech details.
Have I missed any engines in this range.
Also, are there any transmissions from other VVT cars that mate to these engines that would work for the Jimny and offer different ratios.
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Fatzook
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Joined: Sat Oct 27, 2007 11:30 pm Posts: 14977 Location: The Hills
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Posted: Wed Aug 03, 2011 10:06 pm |
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Bugsta wrote: Also, are there any transmissions from other VVT cars that mate to these engines that would work for the Jimny and offer different ratios.
Nope. The jimny box is the only M-series RWD format box in production.
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zuk85
Joined: Sun Jul 05, 2009 11:30 pm Posts: 656 Location: Sunshine coast
Vehicle: 07 vvt jimny
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I want to get my hands on the M15A used in the Suzuki Ignis(HT81S) has a higher compression ratio of 11.0:1, and has 83kW at 6400rpm and 143Nm at 4100rpm.
must be built with stonger components, trying to find out more about it.
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Bugsta
Joined: Fri Oct 30, 2009 10:30 pm Posts: 1754 Location: North Brisbane
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Posted: Thu Aug 04, 2011 5:06 pm |
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How much difference does having an aftermarket ECU make to the perfomance of an unmodified engine?
What differences are there externally between an m13a and and an 15 or 16? What needs to be modified or changed for a clean swap?
According to wiki...
The M13AA is an automotive engine manufactured by Suzuki Motor Corporation. The M13AA is a 1,328 cc inline 4 cylinder 16 valve VVT engine used in the Suzuki Jimny from 2005.
So, does the A mean its more advanced or different to the others without the extra A?
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zuk85
Joined: Sun Jul 05, 2009 11:30 pm Posts: 656 Location: Sunshine coast
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Posted: Thu Aug 04, 2011 8:55 pm |
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i thought they used the m13AA when they went to VVT, m13a is non vvt. please correct me if im wrong anyone.
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Bugsta
Joined: Fri Oct 30, 2009 10:30 pm Posts: 1754 Location: North Brisbane
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Posted: Thu Aug 04, 2011 9:51 pm |
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zuk85 wrote: i thought they used the m13AA when they went to VVT, m13a is non vvt. please correct me if im wrong anyone.
According to Wikipedia - Suzuki M engine you are WRONG!!!!!!!!!!
Oh sorrry, got a little carried away there
Yeah, I'm a little confused by the numbering to. Perhaps the first M13A was floored and they had to make a significant change and that warranted another A?
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alien
Joined: Wed Mar 24, 2010 10:30 pm Posts: 16343 Location: Perth
Vehicle: '92 Sierra, 1.6efi, SPOA, 31s.
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Posted: Thu Aug 04, 2011 10:31 pm |
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maybe its the sound they made when they finished it and it just stuck?
supervisor: "ok yoshi we're all done!"
yoshi: "aa!"
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zuk85
Joined: Sun Jul 05, 2009 11:30 pm Posts: 656 Location: Sunshine coast
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Posted: Fri Aug 05, 2011 7:23 am |
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Bugsta wrote: zuk85 wrote: i thought they used the m13AA when they went to VVT, m13a is non vvt. please correct me if im wrong anyone. According to Wikipedia - Suzuki M engine you are WRONG!!!!!!!!!! Oh sorrry, got a little carried away there Yeah, I'm a little confused by the numbering to. Perhaps the first M13A was floored and they had to make a significant change and that warranted another A? another forum fighter.............. _________________ sorry CHOP
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Bugsta
Joined: Fri Oct 30, 2009 10:30 pm Posts: 1754 Location: North Brisbane
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Posted: Fri Aug 05, 2011 5:07 pm |
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Nah not me mate. Just pissin about 
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steak_knife
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Joined: Fri May 22, 2009 11:30 pm Posts: 21335 Location: Smart Ass Island
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Posted: Sat Aug 06, 2011 11:14 pm |
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alien wrote: the trick would be using the m13 head on the m16 bottom end with the m16 injectors - providing they bolt up and the flow on the head is the same.
My sierra runs a g13bb head and g16b bottom end with g16b injectors and g13bb computer.
Your a tosser, I hope you know that!!!!!!!
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