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ball

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Joined: Wed Oct 22, 2008 10:30 pm Posts: 4673 Location: Katherine
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buzbox wrote: It's a black one. Perhaps I'd be able to take it in for scrap metal...
Also, I've been thinking of getting a small Mig for about $350, They'd be alright for smaller jobs like welding up to 5mm steel right? I think they're about 250amp.
Not for $350
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ajsr

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Joined: Sun Dec 28, 2008 10:30 pm Posts: 3712 Location: melb
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ball wrote: buzbox wrote: It's a black one. Perhaps I'd be able to take it in for scrap metal...
Also, I've been thinking of getting a small Mig for about $350, They'd be alright for smaller jobs like welding up to 5mm steel right? I think they're about 250amp. Not for $350
maybe he forgot the decimal point like I did earlier and its really 25 amps
ps that was 0.6mm ball 
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buzbox
Joined: Thu Jul 16, 2009 11:30 pm Posts: 3600 Location: Wollongong NSW
Vehicle: LWB Sierra & XL7
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perhaps 150amp...
The next size up from the smallest. I saw them up at bunnings for about $350ish
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shakes
Joined: Sat Apr 10, 2010 11:30 pm Posts: 4895 Location: Northcote
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buzbox wrote: perhaps 150amp...  The next size up from the smallest. I saw them up at bunnings for about $350ish
Seriously, save your money till you have double that and buy a second hand lincoln or similar. MUCH MUCH MUCH better unit, and if you don't use it it wont depreciate like crazy... The bunnings welder you will get $100 for a week after you've brought it home and decided it shit.
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buzbox
Joined: Thu Jul 16, 2009 11:30 pm Posts: 3600 Location: Wollongong NSW
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These are the welders that we have, Arc and Mig.
I wouldn't mind just a small one that's easy to carry and is actually mine.

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shep
Joined: Thu Mar 29, 2007 11:30 pm Posts: 14498 Location: Here there everywhere
Vehicle: A manly awesome man jimny
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ball should have special pricing for AZ members, freight doesn't matter
because ya can pay ball and pick it up at ya local BOC.
come on ball ya slack afrowog sell us stuff for cheap.
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ball

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Joined: Wed Oct 22, 2008 10:30 pm Posts: 4673 Location: Katherine
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shep wrote: ball should have special pricing for AZ members, freight doesn't matter because ya can pay ball and pick it up at ya local BOC.
come on ball ya slack afrowog sell us stuff for cheap.
afro is booked in to go next week
what do you want you tight ass bastard
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shep
Joined: Thu Mar 29, 2007 11:30 pm Posts: 14498 Location: Here there everywhere
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i want a 50amp plasma
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ball

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Joined: Wed Oct 22, 2008 10:30 pm Posts: 4673 Location: Katherine
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shep wrote: i want a 50amp plasma
They only do a 40 amp and it is close to 1K by the time you add the torch in.
My buy price on the torch is the same as the retail. Bastards 
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shep
Joined: Thu Mar 29, 2007 11:30 pm Posts: 14498 Location: Here there everywhere
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ball wrote: shep wrote: i want a 50amp plasma They only do a 40 amp and it is close to 1K by the time you add the torch in. My buy price on the torch is the same as the retail. Bastards 
whats the next size down? 
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ball

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Joined: Wed Oct 22, 2008 10:30 pm Posts: 4673 Location: Katherine
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shep wrote: ball wrote: shep wrote: i want a 50amp plasma They only do a 40 amp and it is close to 1K by the time you add the torch in. My buy price on the torch is the same as the retail. Bastards  whats the next size down? 
4 inch angle grinder
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monley

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Joined: Wed Nov 24, 2010 7:58 am Posts: 11092 Location: Mandurah.W.A.
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ball wrote: shep wrote: ball wrote: shep wrote: i want a 50amp plasma They only do a 40 amp and it is close to 1K by the time you add the torch in. My buy price on the torch is the same as the retail. Bastards  whats the next size down?  4 inch angle grinder
Gas axe  !!! Or is that considered to much of a fire hazard for shep? 
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ball

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Joined: Wed Oct 22, 2008 10:30 pm Posts: 4673 Location: Katherine
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monkey wrote: ball wrote: shep wrote: ball wrote: shep wrote: i want a 50amp plasma They only do a 40 amp and it is close to 1K by the time you add the torch in. My buy price on the torch is the same as the retail. Bastards  whats the next size down?  4 inch angle grinder Gas axe  !!! Or is that considered to much of a fire hazard for shep? 
Have to rent cylinders then.
A plasma will start a fire just as quick as the oxy
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zooky08

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Joined: Fri Nov 27, 2009 10:30 pm Posts: 3426 Location: imbil/gympie. qld
Vehicle: 03 Jimny
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So what sort of mig should I get. Will be doing car panels to thick steel, mainly Suzuki stuff though.
I will spend around the $1200 mark
Was thinking about unimig 180, Lincoln, or cigweld 250 compact
I use a cigweld 350 compact with wire feeder at work and it's lays out some decent welds.
I think the lincolns are out of my price range though 
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31zook
Joined: Tue Mar 24, 2009 10:30 pm Posts: 9242 Location: maito
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I just got my trade papers.... So I'm extra smart now
Lincoln 180sp, I would buy this over and over again. Friggen awesome with 0.6 wire and awesomer with 0.9 doing light car fab stuff 
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banga
Joined: Tue Nov 17, 2009 10:30 pm Posts: 668 Location: sunshine coast
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Bazooka wrote: Looking at a new welder. Been using a gasless mig but some 'Little darling' decided they needed it (and a heap of tools as well) more than me.
So I do lots of light gauge (Body work) and some heavier (upto about 3mm) and wondering what would be best ...Tig or gas Mig. Im not a welders butthole but can lay a half decent bead. Was pretty good with an oxy back in my day too.
Suggestions?
if your doing light gauge body work like repairing panels your better off useing a small mig cause the tig will put heaps more heat into the job especially if your still learning you will probably get lots more distortion.
readin down the thread further a small mig tig inverter combo would be good best of both worlds. We have a 160 renegade at work mig tig combo and it is awesome it gets used alot they are only around $500-$600. but dont cut the 15amp plug down it wrecks something on the inveters.
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Teracis
Joined: Sat Dec 11, 2010 10:03 pm Posts: 2261 Location: Gold Coast
Vehicle: Daisy
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banga wrote: Bazooka wrote: Looking at a new welder. Been using a gasless mig but some 'Little darling' decided they needed it (and a heap of tools as well) more than me.
So I do lots of light gauge (Body work) and some heavier (upto about 3mm) and wondering what would be best ...Tig or gas Mig. Im not a welders butthole but can lay a half decent bead. Was pretty good with an oxy back in my day too.
Suggestions? if your doing light gauge body work like repairing panels your better off useing a small mig cause the tig will put heaps more heat into the job especially if your still learning you will probably get lots more distortion. readin down the thread further a small mig tig inverter combo would be good best of both worlds. We have a 160 renegade at work mig tig combo and it is awesome it gets used alot they are only around $500-$600. but dont cut the 15amp plug down it wrecks something on the inveters.
??? How the hell does filing the plug down wreck the inverter?
You're not allowed to do it, that's why there's a 15a plug, but unless you're overloading the circuit and tripping it out you're not going to hurt the welder.
Still, don't do it, I'm just trying to find out what damage you're talking about from changing/modifying the plug.
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shakes
Joined: Sat Apr 10, 2010 11:30 pm Posts: 4895 Location: Northcote
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Any muppet can 'MIG' not many of them can actually weld.
TIG seperates the men from the boys.
For the amount you use it, I would go a MIG. Easier, quicker, and possibly more versatile. TIG needs to be too sterile for general stuff, it's only when you start needing finesse in your work that a TIG starts to shine.
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Hybrid

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Joined: Mon Apr 21, 2008 11:30 pm Posts: 1095 Location: Bulimba, Brisbane
Vehicle: '92 Sierra
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31zook wrote: I just got my trade papers.... So I'm extra smart now  Lincoln 180sp, I would buy this over and over again. Friggen awesome with 0.6 wire and awesomer with 0.9 doing light car fab stuff 
Since you got your papers now can you explain the benefits of the different size wires? hehe. I'm using 0.6 on a 200amp to do panel work at the moment. Would I be better using a different size?
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overlander74
Joined: Fri Jul 09, 2010 7:59 pm Posts: 22 Location: Bundaberg
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neofitou
Joined: Wed Mar 24, 2010 10:30 pm Posts: 1088 Location: Melbourne
Vehicle: 00 Jimny, 63 Haffy
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Teracis wrote: banga wrote: Bazooka wrote: Looking at a new welder. Been using a gasless mig but some 'Little darling' decided they needed it (and a heap of tools as well) more than me.
So I do lots of light gauge (Body work) and some heavier (upto about 3mm) and wondering what would be best ...Tig or gas Mig. Im not a welders butthole but can lay a half decent bead. Was pretty good with an oxy back in my day too.
Suggestions? if your doing light gauge body work like repairing panels your better off useing a small mig cause the tig will put heaps more heat into the job especially if your still learning you will probably get lots more distortion. readin down the thread further a small mig tig inverter combo would be good best of both worlds. We have a 160 renegade at work mig tig combo and it is awesome it gets used alot they are only around $500-$600. but dont cut the 15amp plug down it wrecks something on the inveters. ??? How the hell does filing the plug down wreck the inverter? You're not allowed to do it, that's why there's a 15a plug, but unless you're overloading the circuit and tripping it out you're not going to hurt the welder. Still, don't do it, I'm just trying to find out what damage you're talking about from changing/modifying the plug.
I wanna know this too.. my drop saw draws waay more than the mig (had to change the circut breakers after they melted), but only has a 10Amp plug..
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alexvitara

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Joined: Sat Mar 26, 2011 8:45 am Posts: 1602 Location: Gold Coast
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i wanna get a gas and gasless mig for $300-500
will be my first mig so something thats fairly easy to use would be good. i will be using it of some light bar work, a little body work and other bits and pieces.please dont say "wait to you have double your money"
does anyone have one for sale or know of any good deals going at the moment?
and what are the disposable cans of argon worth?
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zooky08

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Joined: Fri Nov 27, 2009 10:30 pm Posts: 3426 Location: imbil/gympie. qld
Vehicle: 03 Jimny
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My friend just bout some 60l ones the other day $40 each
We are having trouble finding the little regulator to fit on the 3/8 thread in Australia. Went to a few shops today burt no one had any thing for them. Most likely will have to buy one from the states if we can't find one in aus
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alexvitara

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Joined: Sat Mar 26, 2011 8:45 am Posts: 1602 Location: Gold Coast
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where did he get em from?
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zooky08

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Joined: Fri Nov 27, 2009 10:30 pm Posts: 3426 Location: imbil/gympie. qld
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Autobarn
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alexvitara

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Joined: Sat Mar 26, 2011 8:45 am Posts: 1602 Location: Gold Coast
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Are linclon 175's any good?
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Damo

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Joined: Sat Jul 22, 2006 11:30 pm Posts: 4661 Location: Brisbane
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alexvitara wrote: Are linclon 175's any good?
170 you mean? I had one, they're a good unit, can't go wrong with one of those. The 180 that someone mentioned is the current model.
I picked up this old school Uni Mig. It's got a dodgy home made remote wire feeder, but I think I will get rid of that and bolt the wire feed back into the cabinet where it was originally. It's got a 4m torch in decent nick. The ground lead is a bit nasty but i'm just using the one off my TIG with it. Came with a Harris gas reg, which just needed a new o-ring. I did need to buy feed rollers for it though, as it came with one roller for 0.8 and 1.0mm aluminium wire.
I also bought a new gas shroud and insulator for the torch, some tips, 0.6 and 0.9 wire and a bottle of argoshield. Ready to rock & roll
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ridzilla

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Joined: Mon Sep 26, 2011 11:27 am Posts: 306 Location: Western Australia
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If you want a real welder get a WIA, or a Miller for Flux
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Damo

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Joined: Sat Jul 22, 2006 11:30 pm Posts: 4661 Location: Brisbane
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ridzilla wrote: If you want a real welder get a WIA, or a Miller for Flux
All the guys with ESABs should junk them huh? 
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missmyljdaze
Joined: Tue Jul 05, 2011 7:16 am Posts: 2323 Location: perth
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repco are selling 100 amp gassless migs for $279.00 in thier latest catalogue,
are these things any good?
I have only ever arc welded, but need to do some panel repairs and spot welding soon.
any advice from those in the know appreciated!
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