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primejo07
Joined: Thu May 19, 2011 3:58 am Posts: 344 Location: Kununurra
Vehicle: 93 Sierra 2'' lift 30'' tires
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So yesterday I was up at Lancelin playing on the dunes. I was heading up a big dune and when I got to the top a roo jumped out (it was early morning) so I turned hard right and headed back down the hill. My front right tyre dug into the sand and the back of my car lifted up, then my car was standing on its bull bar and then flipped further and landed on its roof. I need a new targa bar, doors, windshield And panel, and a new front axle (got bent somehow). I am a p plater and am new to fourwheel driving and I admit I'm not experienced. I've gotten myself in a lot of bad situations and I shouldn't be risking my life as much as I am. Anyways, I need your help. Should I claim this on insurance? I'm worried the premium will be huge since I'm on my ps. Or should I try and do it myself, and source the parts?
Insurance is definately the easy way out and my preferred option.. Haha because I'm slack.
Thanks guys
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Scrawny

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Joined: Tue Jan 29, 2008 10:30 pm Posts: 10528 Location: Brissie
Vehicle: Popemobile
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Stuff insurance. Heaps cheaper to just get some second hand bits and bolt them on. It'll happen again so don't worry about the colour of the panels 
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BlueSuzy

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Joined: Sun May 04, 2008 11:30 pm Posts: 9716 Location: NSW
Vehicle: SJ51 LWB, SJ70 SWB
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Insurance is the expensive way out!
Why? Because they WILL write it off.
Search Lumpacharcoal, He has a story of being hit by someone. Bent his front diff. Seeya!
The parts you stated are easy to find, And all unbolt off the body. My estimate would be no more than 1k parts from a wrecker to fix. (cheaper if your patient on here)Not including painting and doing it yourself. That would include a new front clip, window and frame, whole new B pillar, diff housing only etc etc
Show us some pics of the damage 
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OMalley

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Joined: Sat Oct 17, 2009 10:30 pm Posts: 540
Vehicle: 2001 M18a Jimny
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Definitely source the parts yourself and rebuild it, because like BlueSuzy said, all the parts you have said that are damaged are bolt on bolt off - the diff swap being the most difficult.
Nothing worse then when insurance companies write your Suzy off D;
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BlueSuzy

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Joined: Sun May 04, 2008 11:30 pm Posts: 9716 Location: NSW
Vehicle: SJ51 LWB, SJ70 SWB
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OMalley wrote: Definitely source the parts yourself and rebuild it, because like BlueSuzy said, all the parts you have said that are damaged are bolt on bolt off - the diff swap being the most difficult.
Nothing worse then when insurance companies write your Suzy off D;
^ He has another story of this. But it was a hardtop unfortunatly. 
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alien
Joined: Wed Mar 24, 2010 10:30 pm Posts: 16343 Location: Perth
Vehicle: '92 Sierra, 1.6efi, SPOA, 31s.
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parts in WA are a little harder to come by - but every now and then a whole vehicle comes up for wrecking - there was one not long ago - a complete NT hard top for $500 - all the panels looked pretty straight in the pics.
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turbo_deo
Joined: Mon Oct 11, 2010 5:14 am Posts: 542 Location: Newcastle
Vehicle: Work van
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I rolled mine and it cost me about 500 for basically everything that unbolts off a soft top
And x2 on what scrawn said 
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tanshi

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Joined: Tue Jan 09, 2007 10:30 pm Posts: 7717 Location: Brisbane
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on the other hand, 5ierra on here killed his and got the agreed value, plus the car!!! worked out hugely in his favour
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Ben_Sierra

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Joined: Wed Sep 30, 2009 11:30 pm Posts: 4472 Location: Perth
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Have you even checked that your insurance will pay out? Playing around on dunes is probably not covered by your insurance.
Given the damage you have described, the insurance company will write off the car if you claim.
Fixing it yourself will not be that hard. Thats the way I'd go.
And in future, don't swerve for roos 
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masterA

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Joined: Tue Jan 18, 2011 3:24 am Posts: 976 Location: Perth
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MrRocky just fixed his up.....he picked it up rolled and fixed it up for a few $$$....even the colour on the panels matched
Id say go digging for bits on Gumtree and maybe give Pete a call at Suzukishop on 9350 5289....he should be able to help you out
As for the targa top....summer is comming so you may not need it for awhile which will give you time to save some money for a new one 
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Ben_Sierra

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Joined: Wed Sep 30, 2009 11:30 pm Posts: 4472 Location: Perth
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masterA wrote: MrRocky just fixed his up.....he picked it up rolled and fixed it up for a few $$$....even the colour on the panels matched  Id say go digging for bits on Gumtree and maybe give Pete a call at Suzukishop on 9350 5289....he should be able to help you out As for the targa top....summer is comming so you may not need it for awhile which will give you time to save some money for a new one 
Last time I checked, the seatbelts on a Sierra were attached to the targa bar...
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royce

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Joined: Sun Jun 11, 2006 11:30 pm Posts: 17216 Location: Pluto
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Ben_Sierra wrote: masterA wrote: MrRocky just fixed his up.....he picked it up rolled and fixed it up for a few $$$....even the colour on the panels matched  Id say go digging for bits on Gumtree and maybe give Pete a call at Suzukishop on 9350 5289....he should be able to help you out As for the targa top....summer is comming so you may not need it for awhile which will give you time to save some money for a new one  Last time I checked, the seatbelts on a Sierra were attached to the targa bar...
Must of been a while ago, I heard they all attach to the door lock now
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SSSIERA
Joined: Tue Mar 22, 2011 1:26 pm Posts: 1770 Location: Perth's RUF
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alien wrote: parts in WA are a little harder to come by - but every now and then a whole vehicle comes up for wrecking - there was one not long ago - a complete NT hard top for $500 - all the panels looked pretty straight in the pics.
suzishop havent been able to get there hands on ANY sierras for atleast 6months Anything they do get is in to gooder condition to part.
you can always make a rollbar to go were the targa bar goes. an when u say u wrecked the front end, is it fixable? sure its not gona look prety but considering almost all of the front end of a sierra consists of flat edges temporary hammer work should surfice.
that just leaves the problem of a front axel. and doors, there is a bloke on gumtree that i believe wrecks sierras from home. look for sierra parts posted as being in balejura (or how ever u spell it) ask him if he has what you need.
other boys might be able to offer better advice here but. how interchangable are jimny axels and housings and shit with sierras.....
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PICS!!!!!!!!
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MrRocky
Joined: Thu Dec 17, 2009 10:30 pm Posts: 4731 Location: perth
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I was up at lancelin on sunday, unlucky mate
Repaired mine for a few hundred but got lucky with the parts.
I might be able to get you the parts but sometimes it can be cheaper to buy a sierra with a dead engine or a few parts missing and swap the good bits over and part out the rest to recoup some cash.
heres before and after of mine.

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whincup

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Joined: Sat Apr 17, 2010 11:30 pm Posts: 1588 Location: Gracemere, QLD
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wow, i thought i had it bad... nothing on that.
for me, its been about $400, not including b pillar..
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MrRocky
Joined: Thu Dec 17, 2009 10:30 pm Posts: 4731 Location: perth
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haha like i said i got lucky, it cost me $400 too 
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alien
Joined: Wed Mar 24, 2010 10:30 pm Posts: 16343 Location: Perth
Vehicle: '92 Sierra, 1.6efi, SPOA, 31s.
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SSSIERA wrote: there is a bloke on gumtree that i believe wrecks sierras from home. look for sierra parts posted as being in balejura
 mick =)
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bakerboy
Joined: Sun Oct 25, 2009 10:30 pm Posts: 2291 Location: Perth
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Ben_Sierra wrote: Have you even checked that your insurance will pay out? Playing around on dunes is probably not covered by your insurance.
Gazetted road, so he will be covered
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bakerboy
Joined: Sun Oct 25, 2009 10:30 pm Posts: 2291 Location: Perth
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SSSIERA
Joined: Tue Mar 22, 2011 1:26 pm Posts: 1770 Location: Perth's RUF
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alien wrote: SSSIERA wrote: there is a bloke on gumtree that i believe wrecks sierras from home. look for sierra parts posted as being in balejura  mick =)
he had doors and a tagar bar not so long ago
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Bentzook
Joined: Wed Dec 16, 2009 10:30 pm Posts: 25 Location: CentralCoast NSW AU
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What yous dumb fcukers don`t realise is, when you make a claim, the insurance companies then look at where you were driving, look at how many claims have come from that area. Then talk to the govt to close that area off for good. More you claim, the more areas get closed to public.
You rolled it = you fix it
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primejo07
Joined: Thu May 19, 2011 3:58 am Posts: 344 Location: Kununurra
Vehicle: 93 Sierra 2'' lift 30'' tires
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Guys thanks heaps for your advice and stuff. I agree that I should fix it myself, and really it's not that major. It just sucks because I just finished year 12 and was planning to take her to leavers in 26 days  I hope I can get her asset roadworthy for then!
I'm struggling to find parts, I've been looking heaps! But a few links you have posted have helped a lot! So thanks guys! I'll keep you posted and get some pics up once the sun comes up today!
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primejo07
Joined: Thu May 19, 2011 3:58 am Posts: 344 Location: Kununurra
Vehicle: 93 Sierra 2'' lift 30'' tires
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My mate driving it out of the dunes because I buggered up my shoulder :p
Some photos back at my place (drove it from Lancelin to guildford like this)
So there she is. Actually doesn't look to bad
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zukenutter

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Joined: Sun Feb 08, 2009 10:30 pm Posts: 9045 Location: Brisneyland
Vehicle: 2006 Jimny JLX
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Bentzook wrote: What yous dumb fcukers don`t realise is, when you make a claim, the insurance companies then look at where you were driving, look at how many claims have come from that area. Then talk to the govt to close that area off for good. More you claim, the more areas get closed to public. You rolled it = you fix it
[end of rant]
Agree with your main point but your opening line is a bit harsh.
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Reubs
Joined: Wed Sep 09, 2009 11:30 pm Posts: 1522 Location: Brisbane
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primejo07 wrote: So there she is. Actually doesn't look to bad
So, you need a new targa bar & rails, doors (mirrors?) and windscreen. What is the problem?
Just post wanted ads for the parts, then re-spray them when you get them and fit them yourself. Easy fix. If you are having trouble getting parts in WA and the local Zuk shops are ripping you off, try ordering some parts from over East where Sierras are a lot more common (QLD) - maybe try Want33s or someone wrecking one.
IMO, that is much cheaper than mucking around with insurance - you sound young and your excess is probably worth twice as much as the cost to fix the damage - not to mention a claim will probably add cost to future insurance policies. That way you can be certain your car isn't written off either - insurance parts and paint jobs are ridiculously priced.
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alien
Joined: Wed Mar 24, 2010 10:30 pm Posts: 16343 Location: Perth
Vehicle: '92 Sierra, 1.6efi, SPOA, 31s.
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wow - yeah mate its not that bad! you could swap all that over in an afternooon if you had the parts.
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primejo07
Joined: Thu May 19, 2011 3:58 am Posts: 344 Location: Kununurra
Vehicle: 93 Sierra 2'' lift 30'' tires
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Okay the thing is my dad has his heart set on doing the insurance thing, he doesn't understand just how easy it is for me to fix this thing. So I've got to convince him about that. But I agree, sourcing and installing the parts myself will be my best bet. But yeah I'm gonna struggle to get all the parts in wa unless I get a wrecking one and even those are quite hard to find!
How much to you think the Max price I should pay is to get it all sorted out? I know that's a pretty broad question...
I think I need some 4wd lessons or a few trips with some auszookers just so I can figure out the best way to drive the old girl!
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bakerboy
Joined: Sun Oct 25, 2009 10:30 pm Posts: 2291 Location: Perth
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Bentzook wrote: What yous dumb fcukers don`t realise is, when you make a claim, the insurance companies then look at where you were driving, look at how many claims have come from that area. Then talk to the govt to close that area off for good. More you claim, the more areas get closed to public. You rolled it = you fix it
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Yet to see a single road or track closed using your logic, "you dumb fucker"
Tell him it would be classed a write off, you will be down on money from the excess, down a car and worse off than before you had a car. I'm assuming you excess will be around 800?
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primejo07
Joined: Thu May 19, 2011 3:58 am Posts: 344 Location: Kununurra
Vehicle: 93 Sierra 2'' lift 30'' tires
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Alien - yeah I know right! It's just getting the parts, and then getting them painted too!
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want33s

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Just get the parts and paint them matt black. Fit them on and call it good.. Repaint the new parts later when your wallet has recovered.
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