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sambo91
Joined: Sun Jan 23, 2011 1:40 am Posts: 150 Location: gold coast
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I Have been warned not to get one because the clutch cable will snap. Has anyone tried one and had any problems?
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ellis
Joined: Wed Sep 08, 2010 8:28 am Posts: 445 Location: GYMPIE QLD
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i think i read on here on a old post there was a easy fix to this problem its been asked a few times b4 so have a search and see if u can find it if u cant some1 on here probs know what 1 im talking about
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zooky08

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There's no need for a hd clutch in a Sierra
Standard one does just fine, the stress the hd clutch will put on the cable over a period will eventually snap your cable
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runtbase
Joined: Wed Nov 04, 2009 10:30 pm Posts: 223 Location: Bundaberg
Vehicle: Serria
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I have had a hd exedy in mine for over 5 years. Have not snapped one yet.
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ZookFan
Joined: Mon Feb 14, 2011 6:19 am Posts: 3978 Location: Brisbane,samford,QLD
Vehicle: 92 Sierra Tin Top, 3 X LJ 81's
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runtbase wrote: I have had a hd exedy in mine for over 5 years. Have not snapped one yet.
Wow.... yours must have a limited edition extra strength cable fitted 
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Bruce

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Joined: Sun Jun 11, 2006 11:30 pm Posts: 4003 Location: Brisbane
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runtbase wrote: I have had a hd exedy in mine for over 5 years. Have not snapped one yet.
x2
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royce

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Joined: Sun Jun 11, 2006 11:30 pm Posts: 17216 Location: Pluto
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yeah exedy hd in a sierra works well, other brands of hd dont
exedy hd in a vitara is the fail
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bazook

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Joined: Sat Jul 12, 2008 11:30 pm Posts: 1082 Location: brisbane logan
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i go for a custom clutch from npc that is heavy duty but the springs are adjusted so its not as hard on the pedal 
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zuk_244
Joined: Sun Jun 28, 2009 11:30 pm Posts: 170 Location: Wangaratta, Vic
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bazook wrote: i go for a custom clutch from npc that is heavy duty but the springs are adjusted so its not as hard on the pedal 
X2
Thats what i did.
Or just get a standard Excedy.
I went though 2 cables with the HD clutch and it was really heavy on the pedal. Plus you dont really need it. HD or standard it still wont last long if your riding the clutch all the time.
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gympzook
Joined: Fri Oct 22, 2010 6:39 am Posts: 46 Location: Gympie
Vehicle: 1986 Sierra SJ50
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HD Excedy feels the same as the original clutch. I;ve had one for two years and no dramas.
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jonno_racing

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Joined: Wed Apr 15, 2009 11:30 pm Posts: 8164 Location: Tassie
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i used to have issues with the outer of the clutch cable pulling apart and squashing..
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matfan

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Joined: Sat May 29, 2010 4:27 pm Posts: 935 Location: Paraguay
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I just replaced the standard clutch on my sierra on the weekend after 4 years of solid abuse with the first 3 years running 31's on standard gearing.
The only reason I did this is because the pressure plate had dropped a couple of fingers but the clutch disk itself was as good as new.
I may be wrong here and feel free to correct me but a HD clutch seems like a solution to a problem that doesn't really exist.
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boostedbrick

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Joined: Tue Jun 29, 2010 7:44 am Posts: 2003 Location: Brisbane
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NPC special in mine, going strong with no cable issues.
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JrZook
Joined: Tue Aug 08, 2006 11:30 pm Posts: 5517 Location: Holland Park
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Rhino

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Joined: Tue Oct 13, 2009 10:30 pm Posts: 928 Location: Sunny Coast
Vehicle: 79 Lj80 stockman 94 swb Sierra
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ZookFan wrote: runtbase wrote: I have had a hd exedy in mine for over 5 years. Have not snapped one yet. Wow.... yours must have a limited edition extra strength cable fitted 
I've been running mine for 3 years with no problems at all.
Pedal isnt really much heavier then standard.
I think the HD clutches snapping cables is a bit of an internet myth.
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sambo91
Joined: Sun Jan 23, 2011 1:40 am Posts: 150 Location: gold coast
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awesome. thanks for all your help guys. what kind of price did you guys pay. just trying to get an idea of the average price i should be trying to find.
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sambo91
Joined: Sun Jan 23, 2011 1:40 am Posts: 150 Location: gold coast
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awesome. thanks for all your help guys. what kind of price did you guys pay. just trying to get an idea of the average price i should be trying to find.
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abclarke
Joined: Mon Feb 14, 2011 8:19 am Posts: 1966 Location: Couridjah
Vehicle: 1985 Holden Drover
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I think i might be in need of a new clutch in the near future guys, reckon its worth the extra cash for the HD over a standard?
What would you be looking at paying for one?
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Fatzook

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Joined: Sat Oct 27, 2007 11:30 pm Posts: 14977 Location: The Hills
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Rhino wrote: I think the HD clutches snapping cables is a bit of an internet myth.
Guess I'd just had too much to drink when I found my clutch not working due to a snapped cable.
Twice.
If you have gearing, and even an ounce of mechanical symapthy, there is no need for a HD clutch.
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Gwagensteve
Joined: Thu Feb 26, 2009 10:30 pm Posts: 13007 Location: Melbourne
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Fatzook wrote: If you have gearing, and even an ounce of mechanical symapthy, there is no need for a HD clutch.
X2.
In fact, I don't think you even need any mechanical sympathy if you have gearing.
Piggles has a 1.0 sized clutch, an ancient pressure plate, a flywheel that has never been machined, and a stock replacement exedy pressure plate.
I hate on it mercilessly, and it has given me zero problems (except she I filled it with mud - to be expected)
I didn't have the option of a stock suzuki clutch, but if I had a 1.3/1.6 that's what it would be getting - a factory suzuki clutch. Yes they are more expensive.
From what I have seen, these are the most tolerant to water/mud, resist heat the best, and give the best feel.
If you have crook gearing a heavy duty clutch is just a band aid for a gearing problem - like saying you need more power to compensate for big tyres.
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Rhino

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Joined: Tue Oct 13, 2009 10:30 pm Posts: 928 Location: Sunny Coast
Vehicle: 79 Lj80 stockman 94 swb Sierra
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Fatzook wrote: Rhino wrote: I think the HD clutches snapping cables is a bit of an internet myth. Guess I'd just had too much to drink when I found my clutch not working due to a snapped cable. Twice.
In a sierra?
Ive i've had my clutch so full of mud it wouldn't disengage properly and was heavy as all hell and still wheeled all day like that.
It started to bend the fins on the pressure plate and had no effect on the cable.
To me thats a fair bit of load to have on the cable wheeling all day
I've never oiled or cleaned the cable and it still operates works well.
Maybe you've been unlucky with clutch cables or maybe i have a realy strong cable.
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Fatzook

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Joined: Sat Oct 27, 2007 11:30 pm Posts: 14977 Location: The Hills
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Rhino wrote: Fatzook wrote: Rhino wrote: I think the HD clutches snapping cables is a bit of an internet myth. Guess I'd just had too much to drink when I found my clutch not working due to a snapped cable. Twice. In a sierra? Ive i've had my clutch so full of mud it wouldn't disengage properly and was heavy as all hell and still wheeled all day like that. It started to bend the fins on the pressure plate and had no effect on the cable. To me thats a fair bit of load to have on the cable wheeling all day I've never oiled or cleaned the cable and it still operates works well. Maybe you've been unlucky with clutch cables or maybe i have a realy strong cable.
In a Sierra.
Maybe I had a bad run.... who knows. But it did make me realise that a HD clutch is just not needed. I've never had a standard clutch slip with proper gearing installed.
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