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anastasios
Joined: Wed Aug 24, 2011 11:36 pm Posts: 58 Location: Sydney
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Hi all,
Just wondering if there are any bolt on brake upgrades for a swb 1991 hard top vitara.
Do LWB have bigger brakes? If so do they bolt up with no modifications?
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Oldmate28
Joined: Wed Sep 14, 2011 11:41 pm Posts: 117 Location: South Australia
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LWB have larger brakes I believe, I would assume they are a straight swap. Not sure if you would need to upgrade the master cyldinder though? Someone will have the answer.
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Reubs
Joined: Wed Sep 09, 2009 11:30 pm Posts: 1522 Location: Brisbane
Vehicle: SJ80, SE416
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From memory - LWB Vit rotors are 287mm dia, 17mm thick vented. SWB rotors are 290mm dia, 10mm thick solid. That is the difference. Swap the rotors and the calipers.
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anastasios
Joined: Wed Aug 24, 2011 11:36 pm Posts: 58 Location: Sydney
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 Posted: Mon Feb 27, 2012 12:03 pm |
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Do I need the backing plates to bolt on the bigger calipers? Or will the LWB calipers bolt to the SWB backing plates
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royce

omnipotent being
Joined: Sun Jun 11, 2006 11:30 pm Posts: 17216 Location: Pluto
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 Posted: Mon Feb 27, 2012 12:21 pm |
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the LWB calipers fit with the SWB backing plates
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anastasios
Joined: Wed Aug 24, 2011 11:36 pm Posts: 58 Location: Sydney
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 Posted: Mon Feb 27, 2012 12:23 pm |
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awesome, now just to find some calipers!
what about the rear drums?
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TheOtherLeft
Joined: Sun Aug 27, 2006 11:30 pm Posts: 818 Location: Sydney
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Reubs wrote: From memory - LWB Vit rotors are 287mm dia, 17mm thick vented. SWB rotors are 290mm dia, 10mm thick solid. That is the difference. Swap the rotors and the calipers. As they are similar diameter, will the increased thickness be of benefit in terms of stopping power? With the LWB rotors being vented being better then the SWB solid rotors then brake fade will be reduced I assume. Are there other benefits?
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atari4x4

az supporter
Joined: Mon Dec 11, 2006 10:30 pm Posts: 34842 Location: East Radelayed
Vehicle: SV420+SV620 Vitara's
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TheOtherLeft wrote: Reubs wrote: From memory - LWB Vit rotors are 287mm dia, 17mm thick vented. SWB rotors are 290mm dia, 10mm thick solid. That is the difference. Swap the rotors and the calipers. As they are similar diameter, will the increased thickness be of benefit in terms of stopping power? With the LWB rotors being vented being better then the SWB solid rotors then brake fade will be reduced I assume. Are there other benefits? calliper size is where the increase comes from
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royce

omnipotent being
Joined: Sun Jun 11, 2006 11:30 pm Posts: 17216 Location: Pluto
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atari4x4 wrote: TheOtherLeft wrote: Reubs wrote: From memory - LWB Vit rotors are 287mm dia, 17mm thick vented. SWB rotors are 290mm dia, 10mm thick solid. That is the difference. Swap the rotors and the calipers. As they are similar diameter, will the increased thickness be of benefit in terms of stopping power? With the LWB rotors being vented being better then the SWB solid rotors then brake fade will be reduced I assume. Are there other benefits? calliper size is where the increase comes from yep venting keeps them cooler, which is better for repeated heavy braking, the calipers and pads are also a lot bigger which helps with pedal feel and outright stopping ability, though I guess if the stock brakes can lock up the fronts thats probably not that great a bonus, I couldnt lock mine up with 235/75 on
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DarkHorse

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Joined: Wed Apr 14, 2010 11:30 pm Posts: 5413
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2L fronts are the next step up (bigger calipers and I think the discs are about 15mm bigger too) but you then need to space the disc out 8mm, requiring longer wheel studs, and you'll have to either upsize to a 16" XL7 rim or shave the calipers to fit inside 15s. benT rear disc kit to get rid of the drums, need to find Sierra rotors and Mitsi Galant calipers. viewtopic.php?f=15&t=15009
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anastasios
Joined: Wed Aug 24, 2011 11:36 pm Posts: 58 Location: Sydney
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Would increasing the braking capacity increase the capacity to tow?
I really want to keep my swb and tow my race car to the track but car + trailer will be about 1400kg
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Poita
Joined: Fri Jan 14, 2011 5:03 am Posts: 553 Location: Adelaide, SA
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I highly doubt it, stopping is only one factor to towing!
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