[tanshi]

the hate of 80mm lift is that height doesnt equate to capability, for me its like springing over, and then only fitting 31s.

My pet urk at the moment is all the "lets buy 80mm of lift, 235s and twin lock our jimnys" and then proceed to wheel on forest tracks, smooth hills and sand dunes!!

Wheres the innovation,? the challenge of driving challenging terrain.

sorry but, buying bolt-ons for your jimny to me isnt modding.

[SierraDan]

*like*

[31zook]

Haha.

Mine has 50mm of lift and will be on 31s. Will probs start my 3-link on the 16th of this month...

If you see dans pictures, know I'm right behind him

[SierraDan]

Always behind.. because you're in a Jimny! HA!

[joel]

tanshi wrote:

the hate of 80mm lift is that height doesnt equate to capability, for me its like springing over, and then only fitting 31s.

My pet urk at the moment is all the "lets buy 80mm of lift, 235s and twin lock our jimnys" and then proceed to wheel on forest tracks, smooth hills and sand dunes!!

Wheres the innovation,? the challenge of driving challenging terrain.

sorry but, buying bolt-ons for your jimny to me isnt modding.

dont really understand this, im not into 80mm lifts, but you saying anyone who buys off the shelf parts isnt modding?
we should all fab basic parts that are available already??
sounds like reinventing the wheel to me.

[31zook]

All the gear-no idea. Might be closer to his point.

[SierraDan]

joel wrote:

sounds like reinventing the wheel to me.

I agree. We should make it MORE round.

[joel]

SierraDan wrote:

*like*

you didnt just facebook "like" did you.....?

[SierraDan]

joel wrote:

SierraDan wrote:

*like*

you didnt just facebook "like" did you.....?

I was talking to Bluesuzy on facebook. I was in facebook mode. I am sorry.

[GRPABT1]

joel wrote:

tanshi wrote:

the hate of 80mm lift is that height doesnt equate to capability, for me its like springing over, and then only fitting 31s.

My pet urk at the moment is all the "lets buy 80mm of lift, 235s and twin lock our jimnys" and then proceed to wheel on forest tracks, smooth hills and sand dunes!!

Wheres the innovation,? the challenge of driving challenging terrain.

sorry but, buying bolt-ons for your jimny to me isnt modding.

dont really understand this, im not into 80mm lifts, but you saying anyone who buys off the shelf parts isnt modding?
we should all fab basic parts that are available already??
sounds like reinventing the wheel to me.

I think the point was that with all zook's it seems getting out the grinder is inevitable to achieve a well balanced setup. If you want more real capability then past a reasonable lift about 50mm and lockers then some grinding is the next logical step to fit larger tyres. After that it's custom links, shock/spring/strut mounts etc to get the most articulation possible out of the limited physical constraints of the vehicles actual size.

If you are lifted sky high and rolling on 235's and driving chicken tracks then it really just is a wank factor having the extra 30mm isn't it?

[joel]

GRPABT1 wrote:

joel wrote:

tanshi wrote:

the hate of 80mm lift is that height doesnt equate to capability, for me its like springing over, and then only fitting 31s.

My pet urk at the moment is all the "lets buy 80mm of lift, 235s and twin lock our jimnys" and then proceed to wheel on forest tracks, smooth hills and sand dunes!!

Wheres the innovation,? the challenge of driving challenging terrain.

sorry but, buying bolt-ons for your jimny to me isnt modding.

dont really understand this, im not into 80mm lifts, but you saying anyone who buys off the shelf parts isnt modding?
we should all fab basic parts that are available already??
sounds like reinventing the wheel to me.

I think the point was that with all zook's it seems getting out the grinder is inevitable to achieve a well balanced setup. If you want more real capability then past a reasonable lift about 50mm and lockers then some grinding is the next logical step to fit larger tyres. After that it's custom links, shock/spring/strut mounts etc to get the most articulation possible out of the limited physical constraints of the vehicles actual size.

If you are lifted sky high and rolling on 235's and driving chicken tracks then it really just is a wank factor having the extra 30mm isn't it?

in that light, i would agree.

[SierraDan]

Yep i agree.
Only time i see big lifts as "needed" or "useful" or whatever, is people who just plain drive into a mud hole and call it a day out wheeling.

[monley]

All you people hating on the 80mm lift, what is your experience with it? My guess none, so unless you have played around with the lift and jimny suspension you don't know what talking about. Imo 3" of suspension lift with 30-31s is great on jimny, at least for WA terrain.

[SierraDan]

[GRPABT1]

monley wrote:

All you people hating on the 80mm lift, what is your experience with it? My guess none, so unless you have played around with the lift and jimny suspension you don't know what talking about. Imo 3" of suspension lift with 30-31s is great on jimny, at least for CAR PARK terrain.

Fixed for you

[joel]

monley wrote:

All you people hating on the 80mm lift, what is your experience with it? My guess none, so unless you have played around with the lift and jimny suspension you don't know what talking about. Imo 3" of suspension lift with 30-31s is great on jimny, at least for WA terrain.

monley i like you jimny, its one of the jims here breaking new ground, but i think it can be done without the 80mm lift, or is yours 120mm now? i use as evidence, the amount of "parting out my rolled jimny"threads that have graced ther pages of auszookers. while i think you jim is one of the most modded in aus that im aware of, its higher than it needs to be IMO, but it works so great, but i want to see 31zook have a 50mm lift and 31's.

[SuziBlu]

tanshi wrote:

the hate of 80mm lift is that height doesnt equate to capability, for me its like springing over, and then only fitting 31s.

My pet urk at the moment is all the "lets buy 80mm of lift, 235s and twin lock our jimnys" and then proceed to wheel on forest tracks, smooth hills and sand dunes!!

Wheres the innovation,? the challenge of driving challenging terrain.

sorry but, buying bolt-ons for your jimny to me isnt modding.

That last 30mm may well mean the diff between getting there, and getting stuck on the chassis. In my play zone, chassis height does mean a lot, maybe my new build will be different, I do hope so, I hate being on a hill with 4 wheels in the air, suspended about midships, no diff lock can help you there.

[SierraDan]

That's why I drive a Suzuki. You can lift them up.

[zukenutter]

Mine is a smudge over 100mm and handles great. In fact I'd say it handles just as well as a stock Jimny with the super soft stock coils and comfy ride shocks. I think at least half of the Jims I've seen being parted have been stockers.
Driving has a lot to do with rolling and I have seen a few P plates on pics of rolled Jims. Not having a go at P platers but let's face it experience makes for driver skill, not hours spent on Gran Turismo.
As with any 4WD it should be driven as a 4WD and not a drift car.

[SierraDan]

I used Forza Motorsport

[monley]

joel wrote:

monley wrote:

All you people hating on the 80mm lift, what is your experience with it? My guess none, so unless you have played around with the lift and jimny suspension you don't know what talking about. Imo 3" of suspension lift with 30-31s is great on jimny, at least for WA terrain.

monley i like you jimny, its one of the jims here breaking new ground, but i think it can be done without the 80mm lift, or is yours 120mm now? i use as evidence, the amount of "parting out my rolled jimny"threads that have graced ther pages of auszookers. while i think you jim is one of the most modded in aus that im aware of, its higher than it needs to be IMO, but it works so great, but i want to see 31zook have a 50mm lift and 31's.

Thanks Joel.

Yes my car is rather high, but that's only cus I have 40mm coil spacers in the front to get it to sit level. How ever, it is also very wide now. So height vs track width increase makes it rather stable, along with the longer bump stops in the rear.



White jimny on the left has 3" lift, 235s and 0 off-set the rims. I don't see my height as been a issue....

[DSKEW3]

finaly iam allowed back on my puta (gf said) i have 99 jimny and was wondering if u did any special tools but it dosent look like it so i might have a go my self.

[smiffkid]

Well to all the big lift haters I drive a jimny with 6 inches of lift and 31s minimal guard chopping and it doesn often get unstable. Running twin lockers and 31s I also have a jimny with 50 mm lift and 31 while be reasonably stable and still pretty decent wheel travel. I get caught up on my chassis often. Nothin wrong with lifted vehicles if u drive them correctly.

[Gwagensteve]

Smiffkid, you've made an important comment about your terrain.

I don't think it's an accident that there seems to be A) more jimmy's and B) more tall jimny's being used off road in WA.

In Vic, if you need 31" tyres on a jimmy for capability, it's going to get pretty broken pretty quickly. If you decide to run 6" of lift to clear those 31's, it's going to get broken even quicker because it's going to fall over. That's my experience.

Steve.

[joel]

Gwagensteve wrote:

Smiffkid, you've made an important comment about your terrain.

I don't think it's an accident that there seems to be A) more jimmy's and B) more tall jimny's being used off road in WA.

In Vic, if you need 31" tyres on a jimmy for capability, it's going to get pretty broken pretty quickly. If you decide to run 6" of lift to clear those 31's, it's going to get broken even quicker because it's going to fall over. That's my experience. Steve.

if i had a dollar steve......

but valid, as usual.

[monley]

Hey Steve, whats the lowest jimny you have seen on 31s or bigger? Was there not one on 32s with no lift over your way?

[Gwagensteve]

Yep.



32's (285 85 16) 1" lift. Bumpstop spaced and cut to the whaoo.

Very stable for a jimmy but broke driveline like it was going out of fashion. Mitch, it's owner, isn't even a very aggressive driver, certainly nowhere near as hard on the car as me.

IMHO though, Jimny's aren't inherently stable. The radius arm rear end wants to unload and the COG is quite high in the rear due to all the glass/body.

Steve.

[Gwagensteve]

doublethepost

[Gwagensteve]

32's (235 85 16) 1" lift. Bumpstop spaced and cut to the whaoo.



Very stable for a jimmy but broke driveline like it was going out of fashion. Mitch, it's owner, isn't even a very aggressive driver, certainly nowhere near as hard on the car as me.

IMHO though, Jimny's aren't inherently stable. The radius arm rear end wants to unload and the COG is quite high in the rear due to all the glass/body.

Steve.

[joel]

Gwagensteve wrote:

32's (235 85 16) 1" lift. Bumpstop spaced and cut to the whaoo.



Very stable for a jimmy but broke driveline like it was going out of fashion. Mitch, it's owner, isn't even a very aggressive driver, certainly nowhere near as hard on the car as me.

IMHO though, Jimny's aren't inherently stable. The radius arm rear end wants to unload and the COG is quite high in the rear due to all the glass/body.

Steve.

man im would make some money out of you steve.

gat that bloke on here and make a build thread.

looks pretty cool.