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sjzook

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Joined: Mon Jun 13, 2011 6:02 am Posts: 358 Location: Candyland
Vehicle: Jimny 99 2" lift, 31s etc
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 Posted: Thu Jul 12, 2012 9:34 pm |
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Whats the pros and cons for a sierra 2 inch extended shackles
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Fatzook

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Joined: Sat Oct 27, 2007 11:30 pm Posts: 14977 Location: The Hills
Vehicle: Vitara, NGV
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 Posted: Thu Jul 12, 2012 9:43 pm |
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What suspension setup do you currently have? Ext shackles have their place. But they aren't suitable for everyone. EDIT: Have you run it past the search function here on AZ? Ext. shackles have been talked to death. 
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sjzook

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Joined: Mon Jun 13, 2011 6:02 am Posts: 358 Location: Candyland
Vehicle: Jimny 99 2" lift, 31s etc
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 Posted: Thu Jul 12, 2012 9:45 pm |
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Cheers sorry mate to flood with shit haha cheers
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KEENSY85
Joined: Wed May 09, 2012 12:46 am Posts: 1742 Location: north brisbane
Vehicle: 1985 lwb sierra UTE
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I'm struggling with search function(I'm using an old not so smart phone ) could some please post a link to some kind review on pros and cons for shackels please sorry to be a pain in the ass just trying to learn more about the subject and the affect on castor if any ,also I have talking to an engineer and he seems confident that they become legal in qld in the new year rumor or not Its no diff to me
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BlueSuzy

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Joined: Sun May 04, 2008 11:30 pm Posts: 9716 Location: NSW
Vehicle: SJ51 LWB, SJ70 SWB
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 Posted: Fri Jul 13, 2012 1:03 pm |
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Extended shackle ONLY if you have longer springs or moved shackle mounts.
Longer shackles and lifted springs dont mix that well. Less flex/movement than stock. Good for full sick lift though.
"scissor, banana, flipout, pinned, snakeracing" shackles. Alot of people dont like them. I have never tried them
Extended shackles legal? Your dreaming. If they arent legal now, they never will be
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KEENSY85
Joined: Wed May 09, 2012 12:46 am Posts: 1742 Location: north brisbane
Vehicle: 1985 lwb sierra UTE
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 Posted: Fri Jul 13, 2012 1:25 pm |
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Thanks mate thought they might increase droop but seams no ,oh well the do look cool though
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SierraDan

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Joined: Fri Feb 04, 2011 10:55 pm Posts: 9348 Location: Newcastle
Vehicle: G13BB Jimny
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 Posted: Fri Jul 13, 2012 2:05 pm |
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They increase droop if you move the mounts.
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Trypt
Joined: Tue Apr 17, 2012 11:19 am Posts: 492
Vehicle: 1.3 Tin Top
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 Posted: Fri Jul 13, 2012 2:24 pm |
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arnt drop shackles only good for posing flex shots?
No weight on the wheel = no traction anyway
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KEENSY85
Joined: Wed May 09, 2012 12:46 am Posts: 1742 Location: north brisbane
Vehicle: 1985 lwb sierra UTE
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 Posted: Fri Jul 13, 2012 2:31 pm |
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Like as in ruf ?
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SierraDan

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Joined: Fri Feb 04, 2011 10:55 pm Posts: 9348 Location: Newcastle
Vehicle: G13BB Jimny
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 Posted: Fri Jul 13, 2012 3:29 pm |
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that would be a combo of longer spring and extended shackles so it would work better again.
BUT simply bolting on extended shackles is crap.
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KEENSY85
Joined: Wed May 09, 2012 12:46 am Posts: 1742 Location: north brisbane
Vehicle: 1985 lwb sierra UTE
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 Posted: Fri Jul 13, 2012 4:02 pm |
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sjzook wrote: Whats the pros and cons for a sierra 2 inch extended shackles Fdont worry ill steal ur post 
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KEENSY85
Joined: Wed May 09, 2012 12:46 am Posts: 1742 Location: north brisbane
Vehicle: 1985 lwb sierra UTE
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 Posted: Fri Jul 13, 2012 4:05 pm |
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Thanks guys ,obviously using long springs plus shackels can bad ,(spring inverting) in an murphys law way
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stewy91

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Joined: Thu Aug 26, 2010 11:16 am Posts: 287 Location: deception bay
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 Posted: Sat Jul 14, 2012 2:41 pm |
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youve got it the wrong way. You use extended shackles for longer leafs, for example ruf if you set the right angle you will have a hard time inverting them
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GRPABT1
Joined: Mon Nov 19, 2007 10:30 pm Posts: 731 Location: Townsville
Vehicle: 88 SWB WT Sierra soft top ute
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 Posted: Sat Jul 14, 2012 8:54 pm |
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To put it simply it's the shackle angle that is most important not the length. You want a shackle angle at resting ride height that gives you your desired up travel before the bump stop without inverting the shackle on full bump and plenty of droop if you've done it right. About 45 degrees is the normal desired shackle angle but more or less can be used depending on desire for up travel or droop (if you were jumping dunes you wouldn't want it resting on bump stops). Zook's often tend to work better in the slow stuff with more droop than up travel though. Unfortunately the majority of lift kits for leaf sprung 4wds leave them with horrible shackle angles of near vertical providing a bone jarring ride and terrible flex.
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KEENSY85
Joined: Wed May 09, 2012 12:46 am Posts: 1742 Location: north brisbane
Vehicle: 1985 lwb sierra UTE
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 Posted: Sat Jul 14, 2012 10:14 pm |
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Thanks guys for clearing that up for me just nuting it all out in my head before I do my ruf ,once I get the shell and what not I cant wait to finish the panels I'm a pretty shity panel beater and monkey can weld but panel beating is an art ,my hats of to any one that finds it easy 
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GRPABT1
Joined: Mon Nov 19, 2007 10:30 pm Posts: 731 Location: Townsville
Vehicle: 88 SWB WT Sierra soft top ute
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 Posted: Sun Jul 15, 2012 12:55 am |
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Also note that in the front extended shackles can affect the amount of castor and lead to death wobbles.
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KEENSY85
Joined: Wed May 09, 2012 12:46 am Posts: 1742 Location: north brisbane
Vehicle: 1985 lwb sierra UTE
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 Posted: Sun Jul 15, 2012 8:18 am |
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U can do castor correction though yer ? There like wedge I think
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shep
Joined: Thu Mar 29, 2007 11:30 pm Posts: 14498 Location: Here there everywhere
Vehicle: A manly awesome man jimny
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 Posted: Sun Jul 15, 2012 9:09 am |
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KEENSY85 wrote: U can do castor correction though yer ? There like wedge I think Sure can, makes it a ligit mod in the NT if the steering geometry is returned to stock.
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KEENSY85
Joined: Wed May 09, 2012 12:46 am Posts: 1742 Location: north brisbane
Vehicle: 1985 lwb sierra UTE
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 Posted: Sun Jul 15, 2012 4:27 pm |
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Awsome
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