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Post Posted: Sat Mar 16, 2019 4:44 pm 
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So this may be a noob question but eh.

Was wondering how people store water in their zooks with the limited space i have been looking at those poly tanks that go over the weel arche but unsure how nice those would play with a draw system plus i would feel sketchy about having 50kg to one side but was also looking at draw plans that have the tank behind them again wondering if that would mess with the way the car sits.

Any ideas are welcome.

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Post Posted: Sat Mar 16, 2019 6:22 pm 
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What’s the water for?
Just to have some water if you need while out wheeling or for camping and touring?

If it’s the first one then a 10L Polly Jerry can is perfect.
You want the weight low and fixed (as in not having 20kg sloshing in a half empty tank made for 50 or 60L).
Those jerry cans fit in the foot wells behind the front seats in most zooks and also happen to fit perfectly wedged beside the back seats in a Jimny.
10L is more then enough to top up a radiator or rise off if you’ve had to roll around in mud or for most other things you need water for out on the tracks.
I take one of these strapped drown behind the seats with my tool bag and recovery gear on every trip.

If it’s for camping and touring just get 2x 10L Polly jerry cans, this is enough for a weekender with a couple of people.

You can check out my old Jimny thread and see all of the trips we used to do with 2 adults and 2 young kids in the Jimny and pretty much only ever had 2x 10L jerrys with us when we didn’t take the trailer.

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Post Posted: Sat Mar 16, 2019 7:50 pm 
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What’s the water for?
Just to have some water if you need while out wheeling or for camping and touring?

If it’s the first one then a 10L Polly Jerry can is perfect.
You want the weight low and fixed (as in not having 20kg sloshing in a half empty tank made for 50 or 60L).
Those jerry cans fit in the foot wells behind the front seats in most zooks and also happen to fit perfectly wedged beside the back seats in a Jimny.
10L is more then enough to top up a radiator or rise off if you’ve had to roll around in mud or for most other things you need water for out on the tracks.
I take one of these strapped drown behind the seats with my tool bag and recovery gear on every trip.

If it’s for camping and touring just get 2x 10L Polly jerry cans, this is enough for a weekender with a couple of people.

You can check out my old Jimny thread and see all of the trips we used to do with 2 adults and 2 young kids in the Jimny and pretty much only ever had 2x 10L jerrys with us when we didn’t take the trailer.


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Mostly camping and touring while fishing so i can wash the smell off and have water to drink since i want to do long hits in isolated fishing spots that not many go to.

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Post Posted: Mon Mar 18, 2019 1:23 am 
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When we traveled in my Sierra we just bought those cubes of 24 600ml water bottles. Works perfect for us, can break up the cube and fit them pretty much anywhere, never have to dig out some big awkward container, guaranteed good water, always have some in the Engel.

I also had a 5L container for emergency radiator water.

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Post Posted: Mon Mar 25, 2019 5:26 pm 
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So i kept looking into this and found a sneaky yet good idea

desalination of water like they do on boats but a small system yes i know it add's weight but i have been looking into aluminium box trailers aswell for another side project.

it looks like desalination is the go since it avoids adding not needed weight to the car in the way of the tank and plumbing to extract the water and to fill plus it means unlimited water when wanted while yes its slow over a day with solar it means you can run it and get more water then you would ever need in one day, and yes it takes up weight i know but its better then a poly tank and then 50 liters of water weight.

And yes i know it needs me to be by the sea its where i would be regardless since i much rather salt water fishing then fresh i can use a water bladder if needed to transport the water to my site but more then likly it will be fed to a water tank on a trailer that i can tow with the zook since most ive found weigh over the max limit of 750kg braked on the one i want (1995 suzuki sierra jx) i had already planed for a trailer anyways to act as a spare fuel carryer for long trips with a small fuel tank and a pump set up on the zook to act as a sub tank of a kind.

Anyways this post has gone on for abit so time to finish writing and put it up.

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Post Posted: Mon Mar 25, 2019 6:03 pm 
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If your campling by the sea you only need drinking and cooking water. It’s a Sierra - you’re going to run out of beer/food/fuel well before you run out of drinking water.

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Post Posted: Mon Mar 25, 2019 6:15 pm 
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If your campling by the sea you only need drinking and cooking water. It’s a Sierra - you’re going to run out of beer/food/fuel well before you run out of drinking water.


Trust me if i camp by myself i can do about 2 weeks on the smallest amount of stuff and hell the point of the trailer is a base camp setup since i would rather do month long camp trips then deal with people that are demanding as hell (never get a job in tech and then put bissness cards out saying your avalible 24/7 2 am phone calls are not fun over a busted audio cable that you had said to replace a month ago.)

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Post Posted: Sat Mar 30, 2019 3:32 pm 
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Your still taking up space and adding weight that you don't need to, all for 3-4 ltrs a day give or take.

A couple dozen small bottles is a good start for a space compromised vehicle, with maybe a 5ltr jerry if basecamping. Or use one of these if your actually away from civilisation for more than a few days. https://sawyer.com/water-filtration/

Rolling boil a steri-tabs if you wanna go old school.

Look to how hikers do it. They carry a week of kit on their backs with far less space than you have in your sierra.

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Post Posted: Sun Mar 31, 2019 6:44 am 
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So i feel the reason for this thread was missed.

i needed options for water storage not a tell me how to pack i had planned this out before i spotted that models of jx sierra's can tow more then 450 max braked after 1988 with the 89 model onwards to 200 being 750kg.

Before i wrote this i had found a decent fresh water making method and will serve a base camp set up of about 5 to 10 fisher's that know the rules in national parks regarding any water source and dont want to leave good spots during tailor spawn season where water is used alot for gear washing before even being used to cook or wash with or even had after a few to many drinks. it also will be used when i take off for a month on my own with a camp trailer to a secluded beach spot that i can just fish on without worry for water. i wanted the options for myself so i wouldnt burn through fuel running the water desalination over mutiple storage containers, yes i will take a 24 pack of the cheap water but hate the stuff since you never know how long its sat there pn the self and ive grabbed a 1 liter of the cheap one before and it was basicly drinking liquid plastic.

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Post Posted: Sun Mar 31, 2019 8:38 am 
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saph wrote:
So i feel the reason for this thread was missed.


saph wrote:
So this may be a noob question but eh.

Was wondering how people store water in their zooks with the limited spacei have been looking at those poly tanks that go over the weel arche but unsure how nice those would play with a draw system plus i would feel sketchy about having 50kg to one side but was also looking at draw plans that have the tank behind them again wondering if that would mess with the way the car sits.

Any ideas are welcome.



You got exactly what you asked for?

maybe re-clarify.

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Post Posted: Sun Mar 31, 2019 6:31 pm 
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So you’re looking for advice on water storage for 10 people to wash fishing gear that you can drive with in your zook so you don’t have to drive around with water sloshing around in your zook?

Anything else we need to know before offering more useless advice??

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Post Posted: Sun Mar 31, 2019 10:59 pm 
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OK i have taken the advice and at first it WILL start with car water since i wont have the 15k for a base mate trailer nor will i have the 7.5 grand for a rainmain eco desalinator petrol.

The 10 people fishing is a major guess and wont just be washing stuff off its also for fish cleaning and cooking plus the other 200 things that water is used for.

At most the water in the zook will be for me on SOLO trips or for any times when i cant take the trailer and then it will be few day trips.

Pete_79 if you want to offer useless advice go ahead and ill tell you its useless never have i told anyone in past posts in this thread what they said was usless.

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Post Posted: Mon Apr 01, 2019 7:41 pm 
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The condescending remarks aside, going by what you've said in your recent posts my first answer still stands.

Big solid molded 50-60L water tanks are all sorts of wrong for touring in our little vehicles.
Small plastic jerry cans (10L or less) are the best for transporting general use water in a zook.

As the others have said, mulitple little plastic bottles are the best for taking drinking water in a zook.

If you're original question had of included something about what you can take in a zook that will store water once you had set up a base camp for fishing, then I would have said something like a 50L (or bigger) bladder would work as well.
At least a bladder will pack down nice a small for transport. But I would only set up one of those at camp and just keep topping it up as required. Couldn't think of anything worse then driving on the beach with a half full water bladder sloshing around inside a Sierra.
At home I use a 200L bladder in my ute to get town water when our drinking water tanks on the house run dry, and the only way to transport water bladders is totally full or totally empty.

Besides, the truth is there aren't any fishing spots in SEQLD so remote that you can't go to a tap and fill a jerry can or 2 and be back at camp in any more then a couple of hours.
Same goes for most in land/coastal camping along the whole east coast of Australia.

We spent years touring with our family of 2 adults and 2 kids in our Jimny. We've camped on every beach here in SEQ, driven from Brisbane to Tasmania with heaps of spots throughout NSW and a bit the VIC high country.
It was pretty common for us to have over a month at a time the road and did our best to only ever bush camp while on these trips.
Never did I ever need more then 30 or 40L of water storage on any of those various trips.

In my humble opinion your over thinking all of this.

And one last comment, when tourning in a zook it's ALL about how you pack, water included..... :thefinger:

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Post Posted: Tue Apr 09, 2019 3:18 pm 
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And one last comment, when tourning in a zook it's ALL about how you pack, water included..... :thefinger:


This. It’s surprising what you can achieve with a little thought.

Somehow managed to go camping with 4 adults with tents, beer, food, bbq, table etc in the Jimny. Still to this day not sure how we did it


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Post Posted: Tue Apr 09, 2019 4:49 pm 
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Agreed. We did 4 weeks out, 2 adults 2 kids in our GV... didn’t see anyone for 12 days!

Meanwhile weekend just gone I was 100% self sufficient with what I could carry on my back. Most water at any time was 3 litres.
It’s amazing what a filter and frugal use will get you.

Saph, I think your missing the point of what people are saying... Suzuki’s like to be light. And space for touring is at a premium, use water more wisely and save the space for an extra tackle box and bottle of whisky.

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