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Author:  Damo [ Tue Apr 22, 2008 6:46 pm ]
Post subject:  Family cage
I'm thinking a bit further down the track when I need to fit my 4 month old in the zook 8)

Currently I have the rear seats removed and a box across the front seats which has storage on one side and a 12" sub on the other. I was thinking of making a new box for the sub that is smaller so I can fit one of the standard rear seats in, or something a bit more substantial even.

So then I need a cage, here's my thoughts: front half will be pretty standard like most 6 pointers with A and B pillar hoops joined with spreaders. To cover the back i'd put in another hoop right at the back with more spreaders from that to the B pillar, a diagonal brace from the top of the B pillar forward to the wheel well, and a side intrusion bar running from B pillar to C pillar just above the top of the wheel well. Kinda like this:
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Whaddya reckon?
Author:  Scrawny [ Tue Apr 22, 2008 6:59 pm ]
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I reckon your 4 month old will either love or really hate it!! If he/she is anything like my 3 1/2 year old girl it will be the latter.
Nice looking cage though. Maybe add in mounting points for baby seat/capsule restraining belts too?
Author:  just_cruizin [ Tue Apr 22, 2008 7:18 pm ]
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Where as my 3yo can't get enough of it and the 1yo likes it too, mind you they go in the cruiser not the zook, ride is a bit different.

On the cage I would make the 'C' piller go down to the floor rather then the top of the side panels
Author:  antt [ Tue Apr 22, 2008 7:44 pm ]
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i would put a 'V' bar in the middle of the b pillar too. i know it'll make it a pain to get into the back, but it'll strengthen it up so much
Author:  Damo [ Tue Apr 22, 2008 7:44 pm ]
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Macie is pretty well behaved so far, and she really likes sitting up and being able to see things, so as long as she can see I reckon she'll be fine with it.

ScrawnC wrote:
Maybe add in mounting points for baby seat/capsule restraining belts too?


Yeah that is a good idea. I'll try to use the stock seat belt mounts but if they dont work will pick them up on the cage.

just_cruizin wrote:
On the cage I would make the 'C' piller go down to the floor rather then the top of the side panels


That was my intention, my diagram is just crap :lol: I was even thinking of making the C pillar so it would hold the soft top, rather than using that PITA bow.
Author:  Damo [ Tue Apr 22, 2008 8:55 pm ]
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antt wrote:
i would put a 'V' bar in the middle of the b pillar too. i know it'll make it a pain to get into the back, but it'll strengthen it up so much


Yep I agree, just been thinking about that exact thing as a matter of fact. I was thinking of moving the bars around a little to make some better room. number 1 would be ideal for strength but too impractical. I'm thinking 2 would be OK as a happy medium.

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Author:  MART [ Wed Apr 23, 2008 12:38 am ]
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Don't know the queensland regs , but in NSW any bar work in the line of the B pillar , ie , diagonal or v stops you having backseats as it becomes a forward impact point , I had to remove my rears to pass engineering , it also makes it near impossible to get in and out , might be worth talking to a cage manufacturer for the reg'sin your state. Also front sections of the cages are being mad eillegal in NSW for the same reason , It is much safer but check it out properly before spending your coin on something that might not pass rego check , Cheers Paul.
Author:  just_cruizin [ Wed Apr 23, 2008 3:31 am ]
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If you can put the 'V' with Mart's post in mind I would go for 1 as it will be easier to pass things back to the little one, toys food etc etc. My missus spends half the time facing into the back seat looking after our two.
Author:  Damo [ Wed Apr 23, 2008 7:37 am ]
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just_cruizin wrote:
If you can put the 'V' with Mart's post in mind I would go for 1 as it will be easier to pass things back to the little one, toys food etc etc. My missus spends half the time facing into the back seat looking after our two.


Maybe I can turn the passenger seat around so it's facing backwards :lol:
Author:  steve [ Wed Apr 23, 2008 10:25 am ]
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if you turn the drivers seat around, you'll have rear steer 8)
Author:  cj_zuki [ Wed Apr 23, 2008 11:15 am ]
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As mentioned fitting an internal cage is becoming quite an issue with new regs floating around various States. I would suggest an exo (roof/ladder rack :wink: ) and mounting a single seat in the middle. It will keep the little one away from the sides of the vehicle if things get a little hairy and they will have a much better view between the front seats when they are big enough to be turned around to face the front plus Mum will have pretty easy access.
Author:  Damo [ Wed Apr 23, 2008 12:50 pm ]
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I've thought about the exo, but I just dont like the look of them. I'll consider it again though as you're right about the legalities etc. The other good thing is that you dont have a cage taking up precious interior space. They still look shit though, and i'm sure getting the top on and off isn't any easier.

Putting the seat in the middle is a good idea, and that's what I wanted to do originally, but that would mean moving my sub box every time I want to put her in the back, which isn't very practical. If I make the sub box really small I could squeeze it in between a centred seat and the wheel tub. Not ideal but probably the best compromise.
Author:  royce [ Wed Apr 23, 2008 1:08 pm ]
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I reckon keep it simple, afterall you arent going to be barrell rolling at 200km/hr and your going to all this effort to keep it low and light then adding 50kg of pipe up top :)

look at most of the buggies, not a lot to the cages ans you have a bit of head room in the rear for a few years as well
Author:  Damo [ Wed Apr 23, 2008 1:21 pm ]
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royce wrote:
I reckon keep it simple, afterall you arent going to be barrell rolling at 200km/hr and your going to all this effort to keep it low and light then adding 50kg of pipe up top


Yeah good points Royce, my philosophy so far has been keeping things simple, I need to remember that so I don't get too carried away with the cage.

Now I need your input on making the really small sub box 8) i've got a JL Audio 12W0 but if that's not going to work i'll go to a 10". Something with dual 4 ohm voice coils.
Author:  Scrawny [ Wed Apr 23, 2008 1:30 pm ]
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What about going a 8 or 10" tube?
That way you could shuffle the seat over a bit to fit the tube in between seat and wheel well.
Author:  royce [ Wed Apr 23, 2008 1:34 pm ]
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hehe me and small boxes dont mix, make it big, make the slot port even bigger and let it bellow :rambo:

if you are only going to have 1 seat you could well place the speaker baffle right behind the front seat so the sub sits down into the well behind the seat to keep it low and then go back beside the seat till you get enough volume, build a long but thin storage box on top

or deaden the kick panels well, get some decent 8's in there and some bass engines and just pretend :)
Author:  Scrawny [ Wed Apr 23, 2008 1:41 pm ]
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You'll deafen the poor child!! I suppose it would be a bonus when she starts crying, you could just turn up the volume to drown it all out
Author:  royce [ Wed Apr 23, 2008 1:42 pm ]
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nah I reckon road noise and the top flapping would be louder
Author:  Scrawny [ Wed Apr 23, 2008 2:00 pm ]
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I suppose a sub that close to your arse would keep you regular, you could do away with the fruit then. :lol:
Author:  Damo [ Wed Apr 23, 2008 2:32 pm ]
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That's not a bad idea Royce but i'd be worried about it getting wet. Might have to do though...
Author:  royce [ Wed Apr 23, 2008 2:43 pm ]
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seal the box so it doesnt swell?
the sub will be fine, they are pretty waterproof from teh outside
Author:  Damo [ Wed Apr 23, 2008 3:31 pm ]
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royce wrote:
seal the box so it doesnt swell?
the sub will be fine, they are pretty waterproof from teh outside


I suppose i'd never thought that the sub would be OK. I'll raise this in another thread when the time comes, let's keep this one on track :wink:
Author:  royce [ Wed Apr 23, 2008 3:40 pm ]
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there is a track 8O

Damo for mod :lol:
Author:  Scrawny [ Wed Apr 23, 2008 3:50 pm ]
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Penguins and ice cream.....

Opps, little off track :oops:
Author:  dj181 [ Wed Apr 23, 2008 4:20 pm ]
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FAT PENGUIN!!!!

sorry just wanted to say something to break the ice


(yes i know that was a REALLY bad joke)
Author:  Scrawny [ Wed Apr 23, 2008 4:24 pm ]
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dj181 wrote:
FAT PENGUIN!!!!

sorry just wanted to say something to break the ice


(yes i know that was a REALLY bad joke)



I guess we can now consider all ice broken then...
Author:  The_GRIZZ [ Wed Apr 23, 2008 4:25 pm ]
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FAIRY PENGUIN!!!

(sorry couldn't help me self)

Why not hang the sub from the roof of the cage?
Author:  just_cruizin [ Wed Apr 23, 2008 6:02 pm ]
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ScrawnC wrote:
Penguins and ice cream.....

Opps, little off track :oops:


Looks like you've blown a seal
Author:  Scrawny [ Wed Apr 23, 2008 7:49 pm ]
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just_cruizin wrote:
ScrawnC wrote:
Penguins and ice cream.....

Opps, little off track :oops:


Looks like you've blown a seal


No... penguins Greg, not seals
Author:  2stroker [ Sun Sep 14, 2008 5:01 am ]
Post subject:  Re: Family cage
Damo look at the cage in the blue rock crawler in the "Introduce Yourself" section under "BLOWNZUK Dial up warning" He even has a baby seat in it in one of the photos. I had something like that cage (not as full on) in a swb landcruiser when my kids were small and I had the softop custom made to fit the cage work so there were no other bars required.
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