I'll get a photo of them in the car later
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| Author: | Ruthless [ Fri Jul 08, 2011 2:02 am ] |
| Post subject: | Camber for the front of a Sierra |
I just machined the front knuckles up with 3 degrees of camber for the fast Zook I'll put some photos up once they are in |
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| Author: | 11_evl [ Fri Jul 08, 2011 2:15 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Camber for the front of a Sierra |
camber or caster?? |
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| Author: | Ruthless [ Fri Jul 08, 2011 2:49 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Camber for the front of a Sierra |
Camber |
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| Author: | Ruthless [ Fri Jul 08, 2011 2:54 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Camber for the front of a Sierra |
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I'll get a photo of them in the car later |
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| Author: | royce [ Fri Jul 08, 2011 3:16 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Camber for the front of a Sierra |
how are you going to do the bolts up? |
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| Author: | Ruthless [ Fri Jul 08, 2011 3:23 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Camber for the front of a Sierra |
im taking a little bit out of the arms that come out that the wheel bearings run on with the die grinder and then they will go straight in i was going to give it more then 3 degrees but then you will have a hard time getting the bolts in |
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| Author: | TZAR [ Fri Jul 08, 2011 3:27 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Camber for the front of a Sierra |
royce wrote: how are you going to do the bolts up?
Tight you fuckin idiot 
waits for a banning. But I agree with Royce cause now the bolts will be stressed on an angle. Maybe you could machine a small spacer that will go under the bolt head or just build up the surface on the stub and machine that falt so the bolts are in theire normal position. I would noobcad up a pic but Its my day off so I am resting |
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| Author: | Ruthless [ Fri Jul 08, 2011 3:35 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Camber for the front of a Sierra |
ill see how it goes if i need to i will but ill see how it goes with out them first |
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| Author: | Junior_91 [ Fri Jul 08, 2011 9:02 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Camber for the front of a Sierra |
Why are you doing this in the first place i must ask? I used to have a drift car and i only did it cause i was cornering at high speeds and could actually use it and not just have it for looks? |
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| Author: | atari4x4 [ Fri Jul 08, 2011 9:12 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Camber for the front of a Sierra |
I've just recently had camber bolts fitted to my vitara after wheeling it for 6 years with +ve camber, the difference in handling before & after is amazing, even thought it was only a couple of degrees you'd be surprised. |
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| Author: | Ruthless [ Sat Jul 09, 2011 7:33 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Camber for the front of a Sierra |
Junior_91 wrote: Why are you doing this in the first place i must ask? I used to have a drift car and i only did it cause i was cornering at high speeds and could actually use it and not just have it for looks?
It's not going in my black Zook it's going in the rally Zook with a 4ag in it for better cornering at high speeds |
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| Author: | JrZook [ Sat Jul 09, 2011 8:11 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Camber for the front of a Sierra |
Ruthless wrote: Junior_91 wrote: Why are you doing this in the first place i must ask? I used to have a drift car and i only did it cause i was cornering at high speeds and could actually use it and not just have it for looks? It's not going in my black Zook it's going in the rally Zook with a 4ag in it for better cornering at high speeds Increasing the castor has probably a better effect for what you are doing. Castor tilts the axis in which the wheel is rotated around, thus the wheel gains camber as it's turned. Added bonus here is that in straight line position the wheel has not gained extra camber and thus will still have its full contact patch on the surface. |
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| Author: | joeblow [ Sat Jul 09, 2011 9:09 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Camber for the front of a Sierra |
Ruthless wrote: it's going in the rally Zook with a 4ag in it for better cornering at high speeds
We all know how thats gonna end.........post pics of the result. 
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| Author: | alien [ Sat Jul 09, 2011 9:10 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Camber for the front of a Sierra |
joeblow wrote: Ruthless wrote: it's going in the rally Zook with a 4ag in it for better cornering at high speeds We all know how thats gonna end.........post pics of the result. if you're still alive to post them that is =) lol |
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| Author: | steak_knife [ Sat Jul 09, 2011 7:15 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Camber for the front of a Sierra |
joeblow wrote: Ruthless wrote: it's going in the rally Zook with a 4ag in it for better cornering at high speeds We all know how thats gonna end.........post pics of the result. I raced a 4age powered zook, what's your point????? 
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| Author: | Ruthless [ Sat Jul 09, 2011 8:33 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Camber for the front of a Sierra |
I'll put all the pics up I just jad a quick look at it after I got back from south Burnett and Im just going to make some washer with the 3 degree angle on one side And we've been racing the car for years and we just want better conering because in the gravel you have next to no steering |
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| Author: | JrZook [ Sun Jul 10, 2011 12:25 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Camber for the front of a Sierra |
Ruthless wrote: I'll put all the pics up I just jad a quick look at it after I got back from south Burnett and Im just going to make some washer with the 3 degree angle on one side
And we've been racing the car for years and we just want better conering because in the gravel you have next to no steering Try some more castor mate! It will load the outside wheel more on turns and give it the camber your after. |
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| Author: | ajsr [ Sun Jul 10, 2011 1:24 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Camber for the front of a Sierra |
personally I think a little camber would be great, and as jr zook said ckeck your castor as well. but Imo it would be easier and a better option to get camber from a custom offset king pin. not sure how you would go with the rear wiper assy though |
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| Author: | 85zooki [ Sun Jul 10, 2011 8:51 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Camber for the front of a Sierra |
can you get off set king pin bearings for zooks? I know you can for patrols because after I did some big jumps in my v8 patrol ute the diff got a little bent. |
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| Author: | Gwagensteve [ Sun Jul 10, 2011 10:07 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Camber for the front of a Sierra |
Good luck with this, but I think you are barking up the wrong tree. The need for negative camber is mostly a requirement to maintain contact patch during hard cornering with an IFS design. As an IFS car body rolls, the wheel "heels over" going into heavy positive camber. That's not the case with a live axle. Another consideration is what you are doing to the location of the inner axle. If I've figured it right, you are lowering the CV in the knuckle, which will force the inner axle down, taking out inner axle seals and loading the side gears in the diff. You are also pushing the CV inwards a little bit, which might also be an issue. This isn't a problem with offset kingpin bushes. Personally, as has been stated, I would have left camber alone and smashed heaps of caster into the front end. Steve. |
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| Author: | Ruthless [ Wed Jul 13, 2011 9:40 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Camber for the front of a Sierra |
| Author: | McBane [ Fri Jul 15, 2011 1:33 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Camber for the front of a Sierra |
Its gonna be interesting to see the results, as its a live axle the gometry dosnt change as the body leans over. i think more castor is more likley to have the result you want. |
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| Author: | royce [ Sat Jul 16, 2011 5:02 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Camber for the front of a Sierra |
I love lots of camber and like ive said many times before too much castor causes more troubles than good camber also helps to get the the bulk of the tyres contact patch on the ground as the sidewall flexes, rolling suspension or not |
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| Author: | Ruthless [ Wed Oct 05, 2011 4:35 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Camber for the front of a Sierra |
update cause ive been busy with putting a 4age into my daily driver sierra i havent had the chance to put the camber modified knuckles on to the other car but its still all there ready to go on when i get a chance to put them on i will and ill post the photos up once its done and let you know how they go 
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| Author: | Ruthless [ Fri Feb 03, 2012 10:16 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Camber for the front of a Sierra |
just found a better option to my dodgy machined piece ordering some of these tonight http://www.andysautosport.com/suzuki/19 ... _kits/spc/ |
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| Author: | SierraDan [ Sat Feb 04, 2012 11:56 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Camber for the front of a Sierra |
SPC Performance wrote: What do camber kits do? Why buy camber kits? Any amount of ride height change will cause the camber of your tires to change. Says this under the product listing in FAQ's... Solid axle.. Must be a generic FAQ haha. |
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| Author: | monley [ Sat Feb 04, 2012 1:47 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Camber for the front of a Sierra |
Just bend your front diff   
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| Author: | GRPABT1 [ Sun Feb 05, 2012 4:13 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Camber for the front of a Sierra |
You say that in jest but I know some commodore racers that put their rear salsbury diffs in a press and bend them for camber. Can only be done on some diffs without killing the axles though I believe. |
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| Author: | ajsr [ Sun Feb 05, 2012 9:14 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Camber for the front of a Sierra |
how would you do that and have the axle run though a cocked bearing and seal??? cant see that working |
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| Author: | JrZook [ Sun Feb 05, 2012 10:47 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Camber for the front of a Sierra |
ajsr wrote: how would you do that and have the axle run though a cocked bearing and seal??? cant see that working Flex shafts!!!! 
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