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Author:  shiv [ Mon Jan 02, 2012 3:12 am ]
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I cracked the shits with the tyre in the back of the car. so much more room in the back :)

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Author:  steak_knife [ Mon Jan 02, 2012 3:20 am ]
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That's a big frigging tyre.... 8O
Author:  shiv [ Mon Jan 02, 2012 3:22 am ]
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indeed, gave me the shits
Author:  alien [ Mon Jan 02, 2012 3:38 am ]
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have you beefed up the rear bumper mounts so it doesnt vibrate its way off? =)
Author:  shiv [ Mon Jan 02, 2012 3:41 am ]
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i reenforced the rear chassis tube and have mounted it to that. the locking mechanism is on the rear bumper but has no weight on it
Author:  alien [ Mon Jan 02, 2012 3:45 am ]
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ahh i see =) cool... only weak point then is the weld on the 90 degree bend - shouldnt you put fisch plate top and bottom to stop the weld potentially cracking? my engineer drilled that into us on every single thing on my build.
Author:  shiv [ Mon Jan 02, 2012 3:51 am ]
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the 90 degree at the pivot? i wouldnt worry as i compensated for sag it will drop and lock then most of the weight will be near where the lock is. when its locked the weight will be in the center of the car (where it clamps in is U-Bolted to the rear tube) so i cant see a problem. but if it does its only the nylon nut off and ill redo the weld and strenghten it
Author:  fully sick coily [ Thu Feb 23, 2012 4:00 pm ]
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i no it sounds stupid but what is the point of a swing away tire carrier 8O
Author:  youda [ Thu Feb 23, 2012 4:16 pm ]
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because the stock tyre mount gets rather flimsy when tyres get larger and heavier and so you can centralize the weight of the tyre to the car.
Author:  Fatzook [ Thu Feb 23, 2012 4:27 pm ]
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The main reason for a swing-away on a sierra is to get the weight off the rear door. The hinges crack, and the door literally tears off the car.
Author:  Gwagensteve [ Thu Feb 23, 2012 5:17 pm ]
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I no it sounds stupid but what is the point of a swing away tire carrier


The main reason is so that you can run a massive spare tyre to show the cars following you how hardcore you are.

Heavy tyre+heavy collection of stuff to support heavy tyre+ having to swing something out the way to get in the back of the car+having it try and shut all the time when you are parked uphill/on an angle=PITA in my opinion, quite apart from the rattles, wear, jamming etc that tyre carriers normally suffer from.

Run a narrow/light spare and avoid the hassle. Sierra's barely ever need to use a spare tyre. Many of us rarely run a spare at all. How many times have you had a puncture that wasn't easily able to be plugged in a sierra?

Shiv - don't take offence - I hope your tyre carrier is performing as you wished and it seems well thought out- I'm only pointing out it's not a solution for everyone.
Steve.
Author:  jdk81 [ Thu Feb 23, 2012 5:57 pm ]
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I had a tyre carrier on mine, used an axle stud + bearings etc.
I got the shits with it and cut it off.
Found the bearing races had shattered inside, and the seal didnt work.
Surprisingly the frame didnt seem to have any cracks in it.

I pulled it off because of what it was doing to the suspension.
The tyre on a carrier sits further back than standard. It is also heavier, and add the weight of the swingaway bar, you have just added a heap of weight to the extreme rear end.

The front shocks will now have less weight on them (due to the leverage), and the front end will ride higher. This means you have transferred more weight into the rear springs (to counteract the weight and the moment about the rear axle too).

It will shag your rear springs mighty fast.

But I still miss my tyre carrier. It made getting into the back canopy much easier (I dont have a key for my canopy, used to just lock my tyre carrier in place to secure the rear of the car)
Now I have to open the tail gate to open the canopy (spare tyre blocks it from opening) and shit falls out everywhere.

Oh, was it one of the rear tyre carrier kits on ebay?

@ Steve
The rear tailgate still swings shut on you anyway, so no real difference.
Author:  Aaron [ Sun Feb 26, 2012 7:52 am ]
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Gwagensteve wrote:
Quote:
I no it sounds stupid but what is the point of a swing away tire carrier


The main reason is so that you can run a massive spare tyre to show the cars following you how hardcore you are.

Heavy tyre+heavy collection of stuff to support heavy tyre+ having to swing something out the way to get in the back of the car+having it try and shut all the time when you are parked uphill/on an angle=PITA in my opinion, quite apart from the rattles, wear, jamming etc that tyre carriers normally suffer from.

Run a narrow/light spare and avoid the hassle. Sierra's barely ever need to use a spare tyre. Many of us rarely run a spare at all. How many times have you had a puncture that wasn't easily able to be plugged in a sierra?

Shiv - don't take offence - I hope your tyre carrier is performing as you wished and it seems well thought out- I'm only pointing out it's not a solution for everyone.
Steve.


Mate i dont know what part of Aus you are from but i know that where i come from it is ILLEGAL not to carry a spare tyre. and as for not seeing a sierra with a puncture thats a bit silly dont you think? how often do you see Aston Martin or a Ferrari with a flat? They still carry spares. One last thing, i know that if i was out bum fuck idaho and got a flat i would way rather change my spare on than repair it. At least then if i get another flat "which wouldnt happen according to you" i can repair the other one and replace with that.
Author:  TZAR [ Sun Feb 26, 2012 8:31 am ]
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Aaron wrote:

Mate i dont know what part of Aus you are from but i know that where i come from it is ILLEGAL not to carry a spare tyre. .


Proof or shut the fuck up

Example 1:- Prime mover bobtailing ( that is without trailer) no spare


Example 2 taken from VIC roads roadworthy

Wheels
There is no requirement for a spare wheel to be
carried on a vehicle and the Standards for Registration
exclude wheels not normally used in service from any
requirements. However, where a spare wheel is carried it
must be securely retained in or on the vehicle.

http://www.vicroads.vic.gov.au/NR/rdonl ... I26web.pdf

example 3

Vehicles without a spare tire
Acura
FCX Clarity: Inflator and sealant kit
Aston Martin – All models have an inflator and sealant kit
Audi
A5 (2008 – 2011): Runflats
A6 (2009 – 2011): Runflats
A7 (2011): Runflats
Q5 (2009 – 2011): Spare tire stored w/out air. Inflator is provided
Q7 (2007 – 2011): Spare tire optional, inflator kit provided when not equipped with a spare
S4 (2006 – 2011): Spare tire optional, inflator kit provided when not equipped with a spare
S5 (2008 – 2011): Runflats
TT (2008 – 2011): No spare. Inflator and sealant kit
BMW – All vehicles are equipped with Runflats, except:
1M: Inflator and sealant kit
M3: Inflator and sealant kit
X5 (2007 – 2011): Spare tire optional, Runflats are installed when not equipped with a spare
X6 (2009 – 2011): Spare tire optional, Runflats are installed when not equipped with a spare
Cadillac
CTS (2008 – 2011): Spare tire optional, inflator and sealant kit provided when not equipped with a spare
SRX (2010 – 2011): Spare tire optional, inflator and sealant kit provided when not equipped with a spare
STS (2005 – 2011): Spare tire optional, inflator and sealant kit provided when not equipped with a spare
XLR (2004 – 2009): Runflats
Chevrolet
Camaro (2010 – 2011): Spare tire optional, inflator and sealant kit provided when not equipped with a spare
Corvette (2005 – 2011): Runflats
Cruze (2011): Inflator and sealant kit
Equinox (2010 – 2011): Spare tire optional, inflator and sealant kit provided when not equipped with a spare
Volt (2011): Inflator and sealant kit
Chrysler: All SRT models with 20 inch wheels are not equipped with a spate
Dodge
Viper (1998 – 2010): Inflator and sealant kit
Ford
Explorer (2011): Spare tire optional, inflator and sealant kit provided when not equipped with a spare
Focus (2008 – 2011): Spare tire optional, inflator and sealant kit provided when not equipped with a spare
GT (2005 – 2006): Inflator and sealant kit
Mustang (2011): Inflator and sealant kit (except GT Base, which has a spare)
Vehicles without a spare tire
GM
Terrain (2010 – 2011) Inflator and sealant kit
Honda
Odyssey Touring (2005 – 2010): Runflats
Hyundai
Accent (2011 – 2012): Inflator and sealant kit
Elantra (2011 – 2012): Inflator and sealant kit
Sonata Hybrid (2011): Inflator and sealant kit
Veloster (2012): Inflator and sealant kit
Jaguar
XF (2009 – 2011): Spare tire optional, Runflats or inflation kit provided when not equipped with a spare
XK (2007 – 2011): Spare tire optional, Runflats or inflation kit provided when not equipped with a spare
Lexus
LF-A (2011): Inflator and sealant kit
SC series (2003 – 2010): Spare tire optional, Runflats provided when not equipped with a spare
Lotus – All models equipped with inflator and sealant kit
Mazda
MX5 (2006 – 2011): Inflator and sealant kit
Mercedes
R350 BlueTEC (2011): Runflats
GL350 BlueTEC (2011): Runflats
E350 BlueTEC (2011): Runflats
SLS AMG (2011): Inflator and sealant kit
SLR McLaren (2005 – 2009): Inflator and sealant kit
Mini (all models) – Spare tire optional, Runflats or inflator and sealant kit provided when not equipped with a spare
Nissan
370z (2009 – 2011): Spare tire optional, inflator and sealant kit provided when not equipped with a spare
GT-R (2009 – 2011): Runflats
Pontiac
Solstace (2007 – 2009): Tire inflation kit
Porsche
Vehicles without a spare tire
Boxster (2005 – 2011): Inflator and sealant kit
Carrera GT (2004 – 2008): Inflator and sealant kit
Cayman (2005 – 2011): Inflator and sealant kit
Panamera (2010 – 2011): Inflator and sealant kit

So what you are saying is that these cars are not legal for sale in QLD????

FUCK I HATE CAP LOCK INTERNET RUMOURS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Author:  atari4x4 [ Sun Feb 26, 2012 9:38 am ]
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pretty sure the current swift sport also doesn't have a spare tyre, just tyre foam... does that make it an illegal to own
Author:  royce [ Sun Feb 26, 2012 9:46 am ]
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Aaron wrote:

Mate i dont know what part of Aus you are from but i know that where i come from it is ILLEGAL not to carry a spare tyre. and as for not seeing a sierra with a puncture thats a bit silly dont you think? how often do you see Aston Martin or a Ferrari with a flat? They still carry spares. One last thing, i know that if i was out bum fuck idaho and got a flat i would way rather change my spare on than repair it. At least then if i get another flat "which wouldnt happen according to you" i can repair the other one and replace with that.


Bwahahaha there is no requirement to carry a spare at all, but a grey area on if you do have a spare it needing to be serviceable and suitable for the vehicle

dunno how many safety certs I have done with a bald spare that we failed, told the owner to remove it from the car while we reinspect :wink:
Author:  Fatzook [ Sun Feb 26, 2012 10:24 am ]
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royce wrote:
Aaron wrote:

Mate i dont know what part of Aus you are from but i know that where i come from it is ILLEGAL not to carry a spare tyre. and as for not seeing a sierra with a puncture thats a bit silly dont you think? how often do you see Aston Martin or a Ferrari with a flat? They still carry spares. One last thing, i know that if i was out bum fuck idaho and got a flat i would way rather change my spare on than repair it. At least then if i get another flat "which wouldnt happen according to you" i can repair the other one and replace with that.


Bwahahaha there is no requirement to carry a spare at all, but a grey area on if you do have a spare it needing to be serviceable and suitable for the vehicle

dunno how many safety certs I have done with a bald spare that we failed, told the owner to remove it from the car while we reinspect :wink:



This.


IF you have a spare, it must be legal. No spare = no problem. (unless you get a flat)
Author:  GRPABT1 [ Sun Feb 26, 2012 11:39 am ]
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What they said ^ and that is in YOUR part of Australia, QLD. I carry no spare in my other car, never had a flat on a road that wasn't a building site.
Author:  rustyzook [ Sun Feb 26, 2012 7:49 pm ]
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no spare is illegal huh.... hahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahaha that is all
Author:  jdk81 [ Mon Feb 27, 2012 5:27 am ]
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Shiv, do you have a side pic of your car with the carrier and rear tyre in closed position?
Author:  matfan [ Mon Feb 27, 2012 2:56 pm ]
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Many moons ago I had a Lotus Elise and it came from the dealer with a can of tyre foam. The only legalities with respect to spares is that if you have one, it must be road worthy.
Author:  johnmath [ Mon Feb 27, 2012 6:31 pm ]
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Shiv, you seem to have got a zuke stuck in the tread of your spare wheel....
Author:  gypsy [ Mon Feb 27, 2012 10:14 pm ]
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Spare tire can be bald and still pass rwc, it's only to do with wheels incontact with the road.
Author:  just_cruizin [ Wed Feb 29, 2012 12:23 pm ]
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gypsy wrote:
Spare tire can be bald and still pass rwc, it's only to do with wheels incontact with the road.

mmmmmmm no

as per Royces post lots above, if it's bald take it out before you take the vehicle in.
Author:  Fatzook [ Wed Feb 29, 2012 12:27 pm ]
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just_cruizin wrote:
gypsy wrote:
Spare tire can be bald and still pass rwc, it's only to do with wheels incontact with the road.

mmmmmmm no

as per Royces post lots above, if it's bald take it out before you take the vehicle in.


X2.

ANY tyre fitted to the vehicle MUST have legal tread, including the spare.
Author:  gypsy [ Wed Feb 29, 2012 12:42 pm ]
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The vehicle inspection guidelines book that u must go by when doing rwc, the one I'm looking at rite now states "road wheels relate ONLY to those wheels in CONTACT with the ROAD. The SPARE wheel is NOT included in a safety check
Author:  royce [ Wed Feb 29, 2012 1:04 pm ]
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bwahahaha I havent done an inspection in years I would believe the guy doing them now under the same station number :wink:
Author:  Fatzook [ Wed Feb 29, 2012 1:22 pm ]
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gypsy wrote:
The vehicle inspection guidelines book that u must go by when doing rwc, the one I'm looking at rite now states "road wheels relate ONLY to those wheels in CONTACT with the ROAD. The SPARE wheel is NOT included in a safety check



ridiculous.

So when you get a flat and fit your bald spare, your vehicle becomes unroadworthy, and hence cannot be driven. :deadhorse:
Author:  gypsy [ Wed Feb 29, 2012 1:47 pm ]
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:roll: yes if u put a bald spare tire on a car it is unroadworthy, but u can have no spare or a bald one and still be rwc TILL u put it on a car, :deadhorse: :deadhorse: :deadhorse:
Author:  Fatzook [ Wed Feb 29, 2012 2:00 pm ]
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gypsy wrote:
:roll: yes if u put a bald spare tire on a car it is unroadworthy, but u can have no spare or a bald one and still be rwc TILL u put it on a car, :deadhorse: :deadhorse: :deadhorse:


Is it compulsory to have a jack in your vehicle to change your tyre?
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